The Gist - 5 Games Harder Than Dark Souls

The Souls series is notoriously challenging but Jess thinks she can rustle up five games that are even more difficult. Did your pick make the list?

Discussion

179 comments
jollyLibrtarian
jollyLibrtarian

Not even an honorable mention for Super Meat Boy? For shame!

ecs33
ecs33

Any of the NES or SNES Mega Man games are harder than Dark Souls.

medseven
medseven

That Contra looks identical to a game called Super Probotector I had on the Nes!

TheGuardian03
TheGuardian03

Play Evil Within Akumu difficulty then come back and tell me it's not one of the hardest games ever.

Coco_pierrot
Coco_pierrot

Many of the games she talkeds are more trolling with invisible stuff than really really really hard. Battletoads was hard, Contra was hard, the original Ninja Gaiden on the NES was stupidly hard, Meatboy is hard. The original Devil May Cry 3 ( not the second version with Virgil as a playable caracter ) was stupidly hard like the easy setting was the hardest difficulty in the second version of the game.


Today games aren't hard, they just take more time but it is easy so dark soul jump out but still, everyone who played games during the NES remember how hard all the games were and once you could play it perfecly the games like 1h30 long but you'll have to play 100h just to master the unforgiving difficulty.

goddy_suss
goddy_suss

You said Dark souls but there is no recent game in this video.

Perfect dark zero is a recent game and it is harder than Dark souls if you choose the hard mode

Arsyad00
Arsyad00

how dare you compare 5 other cheap ugly graphic,indian and old games to souls series!!

wearelegion5000
wearelegion5000

For the ultimate gaming challenge, try  Far Cry 4 on a dual core processor.


BTW Contra wasn't hard. Enemies were super predictable, so you just had to get in the rhythm.

push88
push88

I came sooo close to beating Battle Toads.  Then someone stole it.

push88
push88

Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start... for life baby!!!

Shin_Gallon
Shin_Gallon

I thought thenoriginal Contra was the easiest one, I could actually beat that without the code. Now Ghouls and Ghosts, a game that is relentlessly difficult and then when you beat it goes "Oh lol no, you have to beat it again to see the real final boss and ending", that is still the hardest game ever if you ask me.

bouchart
bouchart

The Immortal.  It's such an ironic title for the game, since you die on every screen.

tysonwritesel
tysonwritesel

Lion King on the Sega Genesis is just cruel.

Loch324
Loch324

No mention of Devil May Cry 3? For shame Jess :P

bahamut_au
bahamut_au

Devil May Cry 3:DA. 


That is all.

stabbah
stabbah

I used to love playing Metroid but it got so challenging and annoying at the end.  You would try to blast mother brain with missiles while fiery rings would knock you off into the lava draining your health.  Even when you destroyed her there was no rest.  Hurry up and get off the planet!  A self destruct sequence has activated!

dr_jashugan
dr_jashugan

°J° I miss the Torture Chamber. Where is Erick? 

Ghost_Thumbs
Ghost_Thumbs

Wow, thanks for including battletoads. A game I still play on my emulator but will most likely never defeat.  The only person Ive ever seen get to the last stage was my papa (RIP) via a videogame magazine, you know, in the 90's when the internet was awful and printed pages were still relevant. Good list Jess.

solrac98
solrac98

Ever heard of Jumper? Now that is difficult.

Kryptonbornson
Kryptonbornson

I've seen YouTube playthroughs of perfect Contra playthroughs, so I'm not calling anyone a liar, but the main reason why it was so hard was because it was originally an arcade game and they did whatever they could to take quarters out of kids pockets. That's was also a good reason for it being two-player. Less queuing in line.

RoachRush
RoachRush

Any Mega Man X game without the armor upgrades. You will rip your hair out.

crazyj_007123
crazyj_007123

Contra was one of my favorite games back in the day!!

jellystanchina
jellystanchina

That was nice insight on the 3DS.  My stepson plays his a lot.  It's nice to see a little bit about what the fuss is about.  Thanks

YukoAsho
YukoAsho

See, I don't agree with Contra at all.  Yes, it's challenging, but it's not as bad as many people make it out to be, at least until you get to the hangar.  Once you figure out the game's mechanics (and learn that spread shot > *), it's a fun game with just enough pushback.  The other games on this list, however, are the epitomy of what's wrong with many "hard" games.  There's a difference between being tough and being absolutely unfair, and most games that deliberately try to be difficult are simply unfair.  It's why adventure games often have puzzles that defy all sense of logic, or why games like Super Meat Boy or I Wanna Be The Guy rely on nothing but rote memorization.  Ideally a game should be such that it pushes back without being cheap.  It's part of why I view Demon's Souls as being superior to Dark Souls.  Every death in Demon's Souls is your own damned fault, mostly for being impatient, but Dark Souls seems more content to make things intentionally obtuse and inaccessible.  Dark Souls II denying you even the ability to grind seems to be more concerned with being cheap than actually hard.

brande77
brande77

Contra on NES wasn't that hard.
Neither was Zelda 2 on NES mentioned at the end.


Ghouls and ghosts should have been  in the number 5 spot though.

Overkillhazard
Overkillhazard

@medseven That's because it is. Super Probotector was the title given to Contra when it was released in Europe due to the Iran-Contra controversy.  The main cha factors were also changed from (human) soldiers into robots, likely due to worries about violence.

gf61
gf61

@Coco_pierrot Defeating a hard game in a fraction of the time it took to master it is one of the greatest achievements.

1h30minute, speed run perhaps?

ecs33
ecs33

@Arsyad00  Dark Souls is good...but nowadays it's hard to find games with as much creativity as the 8 bit and 16 bit days. With production value, companies are able to mass produce the same art and design concepts and claim them to be different games. It's kinda sad actually.

Earthbound_X
Earthbound_X

@Arsyad00 Yeah a lot if not most NES games are harder then Dark Souls. In Souls you just need patience, in old NES games, they difficulty was usually poor design.

Coco_pierrot
Coco_pierrot

@Arsyad00  Well today games are quite easy compare to NES and SNES games. And you know to someone like me who was alive during the NES days, those games have more charm than many beautiful games of today, too many feel like like an empty shell.

Act_Chill
Act_Chill

@brande77 All my friends beat Zelda 2 so not hard. It just took sometime to learn where to go and what to do. 

walt-baby-luv
walt-baby-luv

@deathdemon89 @Arsyad00 I couldn't stop laughing! Indian? Where did that come from? There are a lot of Nes games that where harder. Anyone ever beat  Kickle Cubicle? It's a kitty/puzzle game, but damn that was hard. Got to toy land or something. Never beat it.

deathblow3
deathblow3

@Earthbound_X @Arsyad00 master system games where harder than nes games. and yes arsyad00 systems existed before the ps3 and 360 and there games where harder just look at super punchout and m.t. punch out also graphics are not everything there are plenty of beautiful game out there that suck.

CaptWaffle
CaptWaffle

Nowadays i imagine that could be overlooked. Hell, I'm from Kazakstan and I've been elected pres of the US. Twice.

Act_Chill
Act_Chill

@combat-high18 @RoachRush @crazyj_007123 I beat it with more lives than I started with. I got good by using the code so I could play through the whole game. Then I could do it without continuing. Then without the code. Finally with getting more lives than dying. I played the hell out of it lol