Road to E3 - Batman: Arkham Origins

Jess takes a look into the newest instalment in the Batman saga, Arkham Origins. Remember, always be yourself, unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.

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219 comments
Lawrencevanrijn
Lawrencevanrijn

Rocksteady blew my mind in both games. So them not making it worries me, yet, the new kids might pull off a great game. I do hope so as Rocksteady made the best Batman game in gaming history, it would be a shame to see that fade.

punksterdaddy
punksterdaddy

On paper it sounds good but with Rocksteady not developing it, is to me a bit odd...?

I will watch it from afar with some caution.

giladwo
giladwo

I WANT it sooooooo much

videogamer008
videogamer008

TONS of respect:  i always and forever wil love the caped crusade, Batman because i have Arkham Asylum and Arkham City and every time i beat those games i go back and collect every riddle trophies there is... and yes.. i do collect them in the game to.  i just love Batman and guess what... i pre ordered this one like i did the first 2...

fend_oblivion
fend_oblivion

"Remember, always be yourself, unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman."

 ^ Words of wisdom. 

pidow
pidow

I always get Batman games and this one is not going to be left out.   Looking forwarded to playing.

Ranma_X_basic
Ranma_X_basic

All i know is this will be added to my game collection since i enjoyed both Arkham Asylum and Arkham City. all i care about is taking on more of batman's many villains. 

kazama99
kazama99

Yea I really hope Batman keeps on delvering. Arkham City was a high bar set, and hopefully the game will still be great without Rocksteady.

EL_Bomberdor
EL_Bomberdor

Always enjoyed these batman game so bring it on.

Merseyak
Merseyak

Will be a good game but im disappointed that its not the whole of gotham.

Srdjann
Srdjann

The suit is better. No more tights and briefs. It's about time.

24714733
24714733

I loved Arkham City and Arkham Asylum ... i just hope they dont screw this up PLEASSSSE ... i want this to be another GOTY .... dnt screw up WB PLZZZZZZZZZZZ

LonelyHippie27
LonelyHippie27

Looks bad ass but anyone else feel like the Arkham saga is gettin kinda old? It might be cool if they got into the Dark Knight Saga

eas022
eas022

if this is supposed to happen before arkham asylum, why does batman look older in this?!

catabuza
catabuza

wait a minute.. Is Kevin Conroy/Mark Hamill voice acting or not?

discusthrower
discusthrower

looks good but im disappointed about no batmobile !!

Superzone
Superzone

This game really has me interested, and I didn't even play Arkham City yet.

Saintofwar
Saintofwar

I hope as batman you will have to flee the police. Also make hard mode hard, Arkham Asylum's hard mode was a joke

lilj2626
lilj2626

dont b saprize if a Arkham Trilogy git made 4 nxt Gen dat wud sell like Krazy maybe sum Behind scenes Footage wud b Butiful

lilj2626
lilj2626

as long as WB use Unreal engine 3 or 4 n its 3D dat da ICe on dis Great lookn cake

Emerald_Scott
Emerald_Scott

I hope this game will have RPG elements. She talked of a reputation system. I hope a karma system will come into play. I just wanna kill those thugs with guns -- they pissed me off soooo much in the last two games! I hope they'll give us the option to kill people and do bad things. I mean, the game is set before he became a hero, so why not?

Slvrshot
Slvrshot

@TERMINATOR-SSD That's exactly why I don't bother with PC. If you have to ask that question there is a problem.

Gojomez
Gojomez

@Merseyak Too big of an open world and the gameplay tends to get watered down.

UtmostAppraise
UtmostAppraise

@Srdjann Yeah. But the colored cape of the past two games was far worse than the briefs. I'm glad the cape and cowl are finally black in Origins.

EminentFate
EminentFate

@Srdjann Too bad it's a prequel tbh. The tights and briefs come into play later...

garysingh34
garysingh34

@LonelyHippie27 yeah at apush they only have one more arkham left before it turns into another assassins creed

BuNKiTZ
BuNKiTZ

@catabuza Sadly, no. But judging from your avatar (profile picture? I'm not sure what they're called), I have good news for you. Ezio's voicer (I forgot his name) will be voicing the younger Batman here. While Robin's voicer (I also forgot his name...) from Arkham City will be voicing Joker. I read on some previews that Joker's new voice sounds pretty good.

X-7
X-7

@lilj2626 I hope you are just trying to be silly with that spelling.

MadaraSoul
MadaraSoul

@lilj2626 hope they dont Unreal makes everything look like there made from clay be better if they used a different engine.

its the easiest engine tool for developers to use hence why 70% of developers use it but its kinda crap. hopefully the new consoles make the UR look more realistic and not just updated clay faced characters.   

ryancyc
ryancyc

@Emerald_Scott That is never going to happen, no way in hell they will let us kill as Batman. He wouldn't of even become Batman in the first place if he didn't have that idealistic sense of justice and moral code.

charlesdao
charlesdao

@Gojomez @Merseyak 2 times Arkham City, is good, remember Rocksteady is working on other game, maybe this one will have full gotham...

Srdjann
Srdjann

@EminentFate @Srdjann I think they won't use tights and briefs suits anymore in next games. This is a response to negative reactions. Of course, now it looks a little bit less logical for Batman to switch from cool armored suit to tights, but that's problem with prequels.

Emerald_Scott
Emerald_Scott

@ryancyc @Emerald_Scott I know, man, but that's the one thing I've always kinda hated about Batman. I mean, Superman, I can understand, but the Batman Universe is meant to be dark. Batman deals with serious criminals, not typical bad guys. And his moral code is his fundamental flaw -- the fact that he spares his adversaries means that they go on to commit more crime and kill people. 

I know that that idealistic sense of justice is there for a reason -- I mean, you can't have little kids watch Batman kill someone. But still, I feel like the story should evolve. I loved the greyness and moral choices presented in the Dark Knight Trilogy at least. 

I feel like the devs should take that risk or else it'll ultimately end up just being another "good vs. evil" and "good wins at the end" story. I wanna be presented with tough moral choices where killing bad guys or not saving them if they're in danger leads to various consequences. 

But I know, I know -- never gonna happen. And if I want such a game, I should go play Fallout. Still, I wanted to express my sentiments in case there's anyone out there who feels the same way.

hornspiller
hornspiller

@Srdjann @EminentFate Batman and superman without briefs are not superheroes. Its what defines them. They are different. Outsiders without a place in society so they wear their underwear over their trousers. Unlike their socially accepted real egos, who wear them normally. 

BuNKiTZ
BuNKiTZ

@catabuza @BuNKiTZ Sure thing. Though, Kevin Conroy is returning for the sequel to Arkham City, he's already been working on it for months now. Yeah, Ezio's VA was really good, so I'm looking forward to hearing his work. It only makes sense that somebody else will be voicing them since they're younger here, though.

Emerald_Scott
Emerald_Scott

@PrpleTrtleBuBum @Emerald_Scott @ryancyc Glad to see someone else who agrees. You know, I had never seen it that way before. Without these villains, Batman would no longer serve any purpose. He doesn't have a normal life, so he has to keep being Batman and I guess there's satisfaction -- and like you say, empowerment -- to be found when everyone looks up to you as their hero. I suppose that's also why he's arrogant. 

Arkham City was great gameplay-wise but I felt it was lacking story-wise. They had put way too many villains to actually flesh any of them out. The only "wow moment" for me was the Joker's death and it was a funny death, excuse the pun. 

All the same, kudos to them for trying that out and delivery fan service. I hope Origins' story will only focus on a few villains and properly flesh them out. 

PrpleTrtleBuBum
PrpleTrtleBuBum

@Emerald_Scott @ryancyc IMO it also gets quite tiring Batman stops Joker, only to have him escape and kill a couple dozen people, just so Batman can stop him again.

Yes the civilians and police in Batman are throwaway cast no one cares about, but to me it sort of seems like Batman likes the feel of empowerement he gets from hunting the villains time and time again and getting the gratitude of Gotham's people. Like his own cat & mouse game where everyone else is collateral. It gives his life meaning.

I really hope they go somewhere with these games though. This series will eventually face a slow or fast death so I'd like it to happen with dramatic and memorable stories instead of repeating the same old patterns. Arkham City was a good start. Keep killing people in tasteful way and don't resurrect people.

Emerald_Scott
Emerald_Scott

@BuNKiTZ @se007 @Emerald_Scott  

But that's what I was complaining about -- that everything is black and white. Good guys are good and bad guys are bad. It's not that I want good guys to just mindlessly kill the bad ones. What I like to see is that moral choice presented and how far we would be willing to go to save, protect or stop someone. 

I mean, in the real world, cops shoot down bad guys if they have to. That doesn't mean they've stooped to their level. They are just doing what has to be done and I would like to see games test our morals and consciences, and how much we can take.

However, that's basically saying that most games should be RPGs, which would be asking too much, I suppose.

Emerald_Scott
Emerald_Scott

@se007 @Emerald_Scott No, actually I do because I already knew that. But do you get my perspective as well? My quarrel is with the black and white point of view. I'm not asking for Batman to go on a killing spree. I was just wondering if the game could present moral choices. Say, killing someone to save a thousand or saving someone who actually goes on to kill people. 

The thing is, the game doesn't really make you feel like Batman. Okay, I'll just speak for myself here. Just imagine yourself as a Batman in our world -- think you wouldn't be tempted to take a life in order to save others if it had to come to that?

Anyway, that's what RPGs are for, so my argument doesn't really apply here, I guess.

BuNKiTZ
BuNKiTZ

@se007 @Emerald_Scott Exactly, it's the one line a superhero must never cross. If they cross that line they can never go back (which is why I'm kinda pissed with what's going on with Spidey, but that's another story). It's in a way, what makes them so great, that they'll keep fighting these villains and stopping them but never taking the easy way out and stooping to there level. Now, if you want a superhero game where you get to kill people, there's the upcoming Deadpool game, which is looking really good ^^

se007
se007

@Emerald_Scott You seriously don't get it do you? By killing his enemies he ends up just like them, he is something like beacon of hope for dark and corrupted gotham.