Reality Check - Is Quantum Computing the Future of Gaming?

Does quantum computing hold to keys to the future of gaming? Find out what it is, and why you should care, in this week's Reality Check.

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That went so far over my head it may have set a new high altitude flight record.

I get your man Harrigan was trying to put things in layman's terms, but frankly it would've made more sense if he said there were tiny sub-atomic hamsters on running wheels.

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@PlatinumPaladin Maybe you did understand it. Quantum Mechanics does NOT make sense. If ever you think you can picture what's going on in QM, it means you've probably misunderstood something!

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@Zloth2 @PlatinumPaladin You are not helping, lol.

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@PlatinumPaladin @Zloth2 here really on the low end of understanding, unlike a normal pc if it was to go through a list of names it would do one after another (first second third fourth fifth etc each switch for each bit going on and off for each name) a quantum pc would be able to do many at once (even 5 names at the same time) making it better as it can save time. the thing is nobody really knows why its able to do it as logic gets thrown out the windows (as all the switches can be on at the same time which should not be possible) .

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@neowarrior793 What? But then how is it possible? Are these things being created by a being higher than ourselves? How can someone create something without understanding how it works?

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@PlatinumPaladin @neowarrior793 its not that we dont know how ti works for say its we cannot predict the results every time to ensure it works.

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This is neat, but I don't think it will be the future for gaming.

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i dont think it will ever happen as a quantum pc would require one insane cooling system to keep that chip at near absolute 0 (which is required) i dont know about you but i dont wanna play my games in a freezer or have something like liquid nitrogen stored in my pc.

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@neowarrior793 Yeah, and desktop computers are a fantasy because nobody has a house big enough to store enough switches to make a useful computer... until they figured out that whole semi-conductor thing (which is also a quantum thing).

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When quantum computing gets here we wont be playing games, games will be playing us lol.

You wont have time to worry about gaming anyway running from the terminators and hunter-killers after the AIs that spawn from quantum computing decide to enslave humanity.

"SURRENDER YOUR FLESH WE DEMAND IT."

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If we adapted quantum computing into a PC's RAM then I think we'd see a crazy evolution in gaming.

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@Seamy22 Good try.

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"Does quantum computing hold to keys to the future of gaming? Find out what it is, and why you should care, in this week's Reality Check."

*the /Fixed

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@jT415Gz Yeah they might as well have made the headline, "Is the Holodeck the future of gaming?"


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@Tranula @amdreallyfast Wouldn't be the first time. These sorts of fields have a bit of a "Not-thought-of-here" mentality.

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I'll be so old by the time it will happen... depressing.....

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@FuzzyPancakes @Tranula "We found no evidence of quantum speedup," said physicist Matthias Troyer of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, Switzerland, co-author of a paper that appeared today in Science. "When we looked at all problems, the machine worked the same as a classical computer."


There is your evidence.

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@Tranula Oh okay, that's cool if it did actually run like a classical computer, that doesn't make much sense to me, but did it say how much faster it was than a classical computer?

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@FuzzyPancakes @Tranula "We found no evidence of quantum speedup," said physicist Matthias Troyer of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, Switzerland LOL. Il re-paste what I just said. So since you need it interpreted, that means its not faster. Here is another link to another article. http://www.livescience.com/46414-first-quantum-computer-no-faster.html

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@Tranula Btw that article is saying that there could be multiple reasons for why the quantum computer might not be preforming as every one thought it should, and its not saying that it is definitively not better than classical computers at any tasks. Also that article still confirms that there is no real way to determine the speed of a quantum computer compared to a classical computer, they measured the speed of it based on specific test/how fast it can run that specific algorithm compared to a classical computer.

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Edited By Tranula

@FuzzyPancakes @Tranula I know, its early to say whether it is or isn't better. But so far, its not breaking any new grounds. I'm just saying for someone like you and me, its not doing us any solids. Who knows what the future holds. Its interesting either way.

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@Tranula I realize what you are saying about how it is not faster... idk why you assume I need it interpreted, I was asking for the speed of the processor, but thanks for the article.

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@FuzzyPancakes @Tranula Im sorry. I don't think you need interpreted. I just thought you might not understand what I was saying. I apologize. And your welcome.

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@FuzzyPancakes @Tranula I can read articles after they tested it. So its sort of a fact. Look it up.

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As of right now, there aren't a whole lot of advantages to this change. Perhaps in the future they will make it better, but right now they have seen that a quantum chip isn't all that much faster then current processors. Im not impressed just yet. I can see this being great for servers but not the home application.

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@Tranula Yeah, it's advantage is when there are many branching paths or many possibilities, such as encryption, machine learning, AI choices, and (as the video mentioned) searching through lists. Linear logic is still best left to traditional computing.

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@amdreallyfast @Tranula Honestly, I don't think the normal everyday user needs to get excited about this yet.

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@amdreallyfast @Tranula I totally agree.

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@Tranula It works nothing like a current processor, it can only preform certain tasks, there is no real way to judge its speed compared to current processors so idk how you would know that

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I'm enjoying this sudden surge in technical articles and videos gamespot seems to be pushing out.

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I don't think that Quantum Computing is the way of the future of gaming except, maybe, in networking. That quantum entangling stuff is pretty weird, but also potentially very cool and very secure for communication.

I think that the way forward is reinventing the transistor (the "switch" that the researcher was talking about), information storage, and chip-chip communications. I picked up and skimmed through a Photonics magazine that was lying on a table at my university and came across some cool stuff. There were short articles on research into fiber optic circuitry and a couple on re-inventing the transistor. One group was changing the materials and managed to make it switch in the terahertz frequency. Another group was taking some principles of the vacuum tube and applying it to transistor design, making a transistor that was smaller, faster, tougher, and less prone to error than current silicon transistors. Then there's HP and their "memristor" technology that they invented a few backs, which is setting the stage for replacing both RAM and hard disks (including SSDs), which will completely alter the basic design of operating systems. Loading time disappears because a program only has to be installed once, and then it can be accessed directly instead of needing to load it into RAM.

Between transistors and circuit-circuit communications based on light and re-inventing storage with memristors, the future of gaming looks extremely bright!

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So quantum computers are good at searching and operating on extremely large lists, something silicon processors aren't very good at. That's amazing for operating on huge reams of data, which may benefit MMO server back-ends and allow for even larger and more complex worlds.


If quantum computers can easily solve NP-hard problems, however...that would be a revolution.

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I took a quantum mechanics course at the end of my chemistry BS degree, and I got the impression that these occurrences were certainly Newtonian, but the problem is that we can't measure things that small in a Newtonian way. To measure something, we have to measure it against a known reference, be it a measuring tape, a laser, radar, air pressure at sea level, electrons with known energy as in an electron microscope, etc.

Believe it or not, photons have momentum despite having no mass. At the atomic level, particles, particularly electrons, are so lightweight that a single photon's momentum can change it's speed and course. Things happen so fast and on such a small scale that we cannot measure them quickly enough to get the full picture (that is, an atom's state may change more than once in the span of one measurement), and we cannot measure them without significantly altering the state of the particles.

Enter Quantum Mechanics, which uses lots of math to describe the things that we CAN measure. The square roots in particular describe interesting behavior because you cannot know if the root was positive or negative. Cool stuff.

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Quantum computing probably won't have much impact on the gaming industry.

Quantum computers are very good (potentially) at specific kinds of problems like factorisation. They can do in days what would take a normal computer the age of the universe.

But 3D graphics involves a lot of vector transformations and matrix manipulations, and quantum computers might not have much of an advantage here.

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@shodanv2 True. Quantum computer can work well in cryptography and searching lists because, by taking advantage of the multiple possible states of the qubit, many combinations can be considered simultaneously. This is a giant leap above current computing, which goes through combinations and lists one at a time.

But quantum computer does not do linear problem solving well. We humans think linearly. Logic is linear. Vector transformation and matrix manipulations and AI and pixel filling are all linear tasks. Granted, pixel-by-pixel calculations are generally quick calculations and are good for parallel computing (hence why GPUs have so many cores), but the calculation for each is a linear process that is best left to our current linear computer.

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What the hell is this guy talking about? My Xbox One can't even play my games in 1080p 60fps I got bigger problems bro.

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This series is always very interesting to watch. I think it's easily the best on Gamespot.

Cam Robinson, great work!

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Put a quantium CPU and a quantum graphics card and a quantum sound card and etc. I can see it happen. I think the arcades are going to use it first.

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I only understood 10% of the video. That's normal right?

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Quantum Computing when it arrives will revolutionize every thing..But it might take even a century for us to understand the magnitude of possibilities it will enable.
Definitely not next gen consoles :D They are already outdated

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Very interesting stuff to look forward to, even if it's quite a bit in the future. Keep the videos coming, Cam. :)

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When Nicholas Harrigan was talkin' about the different CPU 'all about switches' and 'embracing the weird' etc it really got me thinking, very interesting. Maybe there's another way or a way to help that along, if transistors can only get so small before they go into the atomic scale, what about having the CPU's face where all those pins usually are and have that digital? like a kind of digital grid.


When they were on about its potential though it didn't spark my interest much because I don't understand programming at all. They said about it being able to go through lists fast, maybe there wouldn't be any loading screens or errors? =P




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Quantum mechanics are definitely a thing, but strangely, Einstein didn't acknowledge them because he didn't believe in uncertainty.

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They've been bragging about those quantum computers for years on years, I'm yet to see any real progress. I, on the other hand, will alter my DNA to make my schlong longer, just you watch.

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Looking forward to quantum, but first security needs to improve. I really do not want to see everyone owning a system that can break encription

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I like science mysteries :))

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@Aboal3z Glados would gladly have you test her science mysteries..for science. :)

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I`m still giggling at the POV joke. Price of veggies, Good one , Cam!

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Cam,


I think it would be great if you do a feature on graphics card APIs. What is DirectX, OpenGL and Mantle? How do they work? What does it mean that Mantle is a low-level API? Is the new DirectX 12 mimicking Mantle? What does this mean for computer gaming? Also, are these present of the consoles? Why do people say consoles are more effective (not necessarily more powerful) than computer because of low-level APIs?


I've read up some stuff, but it is rather confusing and maybe you can make a good episode out of it. Here is an interesting article I read on the subject: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2109596/directx-12-vs-mantle-comparing-pc-gamings-software-supercharged-future.html


Thanks, love your show.

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(Bane Voice) THE FRAME RATE RISES ON THE VIDEO CAPTURE, CAM!!!

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