Quoted for Truth: Episode 10 - Life for Vita & EA's Gun Partners

Tom and Brendan take over QFT again and talk about Vita's resurrection at Gamescom, EA and their guns, 007 Goldeneye and much more!

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twillfast
twillfast

I don't understand you Tom. You get really upset by EA's stupid weapon promotion, but when a commenter talks about it being OK to own guns as long as you only use them for protection and with training, that's alright?

Is there an actual real reason for assault rifles to be commercially available? Tell me one good reason why anyone would need to have a gun in their home!

The1stFishBone
The1stFishBone

A video game is a toy we use for our enjoyment. A gun is weapon used to kill people. Any association between a game and the promotion of actual weapons encouraging there purchase is sick. These is creating a direct connection between a a fun toy and a weapon. Basically the promotion gives the impression that a gun is another type of toy to be used for fun.

Snakepond2
Snakepond2

Can someone please tell me what Jade Raymond has done to receive this kind of recognition? I mean to compare her to Michel Ancel is an insult to the genius behind some of the greatest games of all time. Also, Jade Raymond did not create Assassin's Creed. It was Patrice Desilets and left after the series became to repetitive. I am from Montreal born and raised and know a few people at Ubisoft who say Jade Raymond is way over hyped by the media. Girls got talent and looks, but easy there people. What next? Are we going to compare her to Miyamoto?

Ravenshout
Ravenshout

Tom Mcshea talks about Zelda. Haha.

nonfanboygamer1
nonfanboygamer1

That guy was on Sony for the games, but how many Mario games does nintendo continue to make? Talking of lack of creativity?

Thirdrail1
Thirdrail1

Wait. Did guy on the right just say, "...because I love Luigi's Mansion."? That is the fastest I've ever seen anyone, in any podcast, destroy all their credibility.

Gaming-Planet
Gaming-Planet

PSVita should have had internal memory, and maybe some devs would make download exclusives. Even the consumers would love it, so everybody wins. Except sony wants that extra cash from their overpriced memory cards, but now they're trying to add them into buddles. They can't admit to their mistake. 

cephiro01
cephiro01

this show need to get more exposed people need to see and hear this

decebal
decebal

Thank you for covering the EA guns issue. I wasn't aware of the campaign so I didn't have time to form an opinion. But your debate really opened my eyes. As appealing as these games sound, I will try to stay away from anything that calls itself authentic. 

endorbr
endorbr

Stupid people's views are slanted by the media they consume.  Anyone who takes what they are shown and spoon fed by the media; on the news, in books, on TV, in movies, or video games and takes it at face value or has their fundamental perceptions of the world altered by it is an idiot.  You have to take those things and combine with common sense (something which a great many people are woefully lacking in), the realization that public education is biased as well, and filter thru the intellect we supposedly possess as the "dominant" species on this planet.  It's all about perception and people's willingness (or unwillingness) to recognize and understand the difference between reality and their view of "truth."

endorbr
endorbr

The problem with innovation in gaming is money.  Publishers/Developers can't afford to take risks these days because of the economy of the games industry.  A few missteps and bad sales and it's game over for your company.  The broader audience of gamers these days aren't the forgiving type that the gamers of the '80s and '90s were.  They are not serious about gaming as a hobby and are only purchasing a half dozen games a year (if that) so unless it has CoD or Madden in the title they aren't interested.  Sucks for us in the hardcore crowd but that's the reality of our passion.  It's been sullied by the masses thanks to the lure of the dollar and unfortunately there's no going back from that.

endorbr
endorbr

Anyone saying that the Vita needs a price cut doesn't understand what the system really offers.  The hardware is totally worth the money.  It just needs to have a developed library of games (which takes time) and a greater depth of functionality in the form of cross play and cross control, all of which Sony is working on developing and incorporating right now.  It's still extremely early in it's life cycle and most people are not early adopters.  Most people are also usually whiners when it comes to spending money, especially if they think they're going to be able to get it cheaper next week.  Price cut is not coming any time soon people.

Araknie
Araknie

Sony fanboy doing stuff for Gamestop, please 3DS is the handheld console to have: RE Revelations, KH3D. Ah right wait a minute, i have seen a lot of 7.0 on 3DS games here on this site.

It is becoming like VGChartz here? What's the point of dening obvious stuff?

ptown58
ptown58

Let me play any GTA game on my Vita but upside down , the controls feel much more comfortable. and natural.

Being very patient waiting for more games. Hope a GTA game gets on the Vita soon.

TonyFerrino
TonyFerrino

I'm going to miss "The Tomahawk Promotion", it was one of my favourite Big Bang Theory episodes :-(

squall_83
squall_83

You guys really need to get with the times and update that video player. If I can't scrub to any point in the video and immediately start watching there, without having to wait for the whole video to buffer to that point, we have a problem. I accidentally hit the back button on my mouse and had to wait 5 minutes to watch the end.

FallenOneX
FallenOneX

I normally try not to double post like this, but I had no choice.

18:37-30:20...............

 

Tom, Brendan...... I waited, I never saw or heard either of you say that you were going to never preview/review EA's or other company's war games again, and you never said you'd boycott EA or Michael Bay games or movies.

Well, when you get down off your high horses, watch out for all of the crap they were spewing out. Obviously, the line they crossed wasn't that big of a deal, and you don't have the ability to make your own little corner of the world better.

As a former Marine, I saw someone (were at P.I. together) leave the service after claiming to be a conscientious objector. There was no war going on at the time, 9/11 wouldn't happen for another few years. I have more respect for him acting on his beliefs than I ever will for "Quoted for Truth" period now.

FallenOneX
FallenOneX

Here's what I think editors sometimes forget when trying to review a game, but Tom hit the nail on the head at 01:36: you aren't paying for this game. You got to play it through to completion for free. Yes, you were actually doing work, and probably didn't get to enjoy it as much the first time since you had to write a review, but you still got to do that for free. I think the GS UK reviewer said something about that at the end of her review.

At the end of a review, just tell me if you would go out and actually buy this game with your own money. I'll admit, I rent many games before I buy them, but I look at reviews to help guide me towards titles I never really followed for whatever reason.

skunkboy72
skunkboy72

Have these two people seriously never heard of independent games?  They are still whining about how there is no innovation.

Nob_Atrivan
Nob_Atrivan

I'm a big fan of the show, but I was extremely disappointed in this episode. It's very easy to tear into corporations and label them as "******** ignorant" without realizing that these are individual people trying to make a living. Why don't you spend your time lambasting the "********* ignorant" people who purchase the games you hate? 

 

The worst part, however, was the comment referring to the charity to help wounded warriors as "it's like buying fast food to support fat people or buying drugs to support drug addicts", then Tom saying "that's an excellent point

Shame. 

 

 

Mejikojin
Mejikojin

Tom McShea just stop please 

 

skunkboy72
skunkboy72

Jade Raymond is completely wrong.  'Gamers' are buying the games that are innovative.  Look at Bastion, Fez, Amnesia, Dungeons of Dredmor, etc. etc.  The vast majority of money is going to the big blockbusters because the general public is buying them.  Just because these indie games aren't making CoD money does not mean they aren't making money.

 

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

I'm ashamed to say this was the first Quoted for Truth I've watched, and it was bloody awesome.

nate1222
nate1222

30:56 ..."so that the PUBLISHER can keep telling the story."

Figures that a fucking PUBLISHER would support the anual release model.

nate1222
nate1222

18:42 Brendan raises a damn good point and makes a good cultural critique. I'm opposed to alot of the commitification of machismo that goes on in our (American) culture. Games, movies, books...that promote war itself turn my stomach.

 

I'm a former serviceman, US army Infantry 11 Bravo. Served in the Republic of Korea (SK). Even in a non-combat zone it sucked. Military life, having your life constantly controlled in a company culture of sameness, eats ass even when you're not in combat.

 

What's worse is that most of what our military is used for has NOTHING to do with defending a fucking country! It's mostly arms rackets and propping up puppet governments for Wall Street to exploit. Then...mofos want to comodify it.

 

Because of these things, I simply DON'T buy these types of games nor movies. I don't reward these assholes for this shit.

Buffalo2867
Buffalo2867

Seems simple enough. If you object to the game or the marketed side material, don't buy them. Its ironic. How often do gamers rally in outrage any time somebody pushes for banning mature content in video games and now much of the gaming community is doing the exact same thing they supposedly hate with regards to Medal of Honor? They morally object to firearms and military culture, (similar to how moralists object to violence, sex or homosexuality in games) but its not enough to personally abstain from buying such products, they have to raise a stink and make sure nobody else does either. It's quite telling.

obsequies
obsequies

I'd say its the game gear vs. the neo geo pocket..not turbo express

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

mcshea and sinclair do not understand war....period. yes death is bad...when it comes down to it...they spit on these soldiers who CHOOSE to give up their lives to uphold freedom and their way of living. Have governments used soldiers and war for bad things...yes...ive been through a coup seeing tanks roll through my street....and if evil men have no regard, we need a way to combat it...and mcshea and sinclair spit on these heroic people

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

As far as innovations...people vote with their wallet, i see more chances being taken when it comes to cheaper xbox live arcade and psn games. Problem solved if the publishers just let the developers have some freedom with psn and xbox live arcade game.

blackwingzero
blackwingzero

Great conversation on the whole EA guns thing. Totaly agree with them on this. Their point is very well explained and it makes perfect sense to.

TheFallen924
TheFallen924

it wouldve been nice if while they were talking about game innovations, they wouldve showed footage of the games they were pushing for and not just splinter cell -_-

Codester_41
Codester_41

As for the VITA, I just don't want all these amazing things that the VITA can do, and then in the end, publishers don't care at all about them and barely incorperate them into their games. That's what happened with the Playstation's Sixaxis controller, and I'm worried that that's what's going to happen for this handheld.

de-ci23
de-ci23

 @Snakepond2

 Patrice Desilets was the director of Assasins Creed he didn't create it.  Jade Raymond was the producer.  Credit were credit is due even the director of Assiasins creed 2 acknowledged the first game as as being her baby, the project she was responsible for and explainned that she was taking a back seat in the sequel as exective director so I would say she had alot to do with the first game. 

 

 In some ways I preferred the first game which was initially meant to be a trilogy until the project was taken over from Jade Raymond and they got greedy and decided to do yearly releases.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

 @Gaming-Planet You have to buy the memory seperate? wow, no vita for me then, ever I don't care how awesome of a system it might be or what games it gets on it.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

 @Araknie You know that Tom is a Nintendo Fanboy right. So you had both a Sony and Nintendo fan in this video.

DriftEJ20
DriftEJ20

 @skunkboy72 Well they are debating on someone else's statement. There is innovation in every industry, but it's a disappointment when the large dollar amounts that provide for polish and shorter development cycles gets devoted to the less innovative sector. I'm sure there are plenty of indie games and indie movies that could have used a higher budget to speed things up, make them look better etc.

mrbrainheart
mrbrainheart

 @Nob_Atrivan The point is that you'd be buying guns to support people who have been shot by guns. Does that sound right to you? The comment wasn't referring to the charity but to what you are buying.

smwlce4
smwlce4

 @nate1222 thats because the military industrial complex has such a significant effect on our society and economy. a public thats mesmerized by war is one that can be picked clean when a major one starts. 

Polybren
Polybren

 @Buffalo2867 The thing is, I don't want concerned parents to shut up about sex in games; I want them to understand why their concerns aren't sufficient justification for legislation. I don't want people who disagree with me to be silent; I want us all to see there are other opinions out there, and to understand where each of them is coming from. When it's done properly, communication leads to better understanding. It may not sway everyone to one side, but it can take the stupid animosity out of an argument in a way that silence and lack of exposure to dissenting viewpoints never will.

suko1983
suko1983

 @jsmoke03 Spit? you are not getting it, tell me what they say to spit on soldiers.

endorbr
endorbr

 @Codester_41 That kind of attitude stifles innovation.  Maybe you don't want it but that doesn't mean that others don't and doesn't mean that developers won't incorporate or even design games specifically around those features.  If you've seen any of the info about upcoming titles for the Vita you'll see that developers are incorporating and using the features that the Vita offers.  It's a way to make different play styles available and make gaming more accessible to a broader audience.  All these features actually work really well and aren't in any significant way responsible for the Vita's final price tag so what's your gripe?

obsequies
obsequies

 @Codester_41 meh..that always happens. remember that ir port on the game boy color or the countless expansion ports that were never used on consoles..I don't think touch pads are very expensive..specially when they arent in a screen so it was more of a space user on the vita rather than a waste

endorbr
endorbr

 @Polybren Agreed.  But unfortunately that isn't really how the world (or people) work.  It's absolutely how things should work and would make things much simpler if we could just recognize that not all (in fact most) things don't have one defnite answer and that people have different ideas and opinions.  Unfortunately most people seem to be dead set that they are right, everyone else is wrong and anyone that doesn't agree with them is an idiot.

obsequies
obsequies

 @jsmoke03 I don't care what happens in any country..I don't believe canada should be in any country for any reason ever

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

 @obsequies did i say i believe in the government or military? when did i say that. look at my post first...cuz i think you are either ignorant and illiterate or have dyslexia

obsequies
obsequies

 @jsmoke03 so quoting snake makes me gullible but believing the government or military isn't?lol you're right..why would the government or military lie to us..what would they have to gain?? lol you're a fool