Quoted for Truth: Episode 14
Giant Bomb's Ryan Davis lends his BS expertise to this week's Quoted for Truth.
I got here by way of gb fandom. I've only seen a few of these episodes. I liked this one. Please have more with guests from other websites. I know gb is a cbsi property.
I used to love this show, but at this point it's just a shadow of it once was. The original trio of Davison, Sinclair, and McShea provided solid, reasonable debate and discussion on the industry without it ever turning hostile. Whether you agree with Ryan Davis or not, calling one his co-hosts an asshole (right around the 32:28 mark or so) for disagrreing with him is definitely crossing the line. If I just wanted a bunch of yelling back and forth I could just read the forums.
forza 4 season pass did not include the porsche expansion pack. fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice...
As usual, Ryan Davis is the only person in the room who even remotely knows what he's talking about. I can't imagine what this shit show is like when he's not on it. Maybe I won't have to, I can't imagine there will be too many more episodes of this drivel.
God, in what universe is this chatter worth 2570.9MB of bandwidth? Might be pushing that HD Plus mandate a little hard, GS. MP3 RSS plzkthx?
Regarding Season Passes I actually don't think they are that bad... If a person will already buy all the content and buying the pass saves them some amount of money it can be a good deal. But said content needs to be revealed upfront! Otherwise there is no way to know if the content will be any good!
Online Passes on the other hand... that's just wrong!
For a game that is such "hot garbage" he sure did give Assassin's Creed: Revelations a great score.
Even still, I did enjoy this episode highly. Great debate.
I love Forza and I would buy the season pass. I bought it for Gears 3 and Forza 4 and I have nothing but praise for the content. I got it in advance and at a discounted price. What's not too love? If you like a developer and a game series why not support it.
Ryan Davis had a lot of solid points in this argument. He made the most sense out of all if you ask me.
But if you guys don't like to preorder stuff that is just you. You guys have to realize that there is enough of videos and previews on the internet to make up your mind about the game. Even if you buy the game after reading all reviews you might make a mistake. It's the same deal with preorders. You can hit and miss
The advantage of the "Steambox" that everyone missed is value- you would theoretically be able to buy a game, say Borderlands 2, and be able to play it on your PC when at your desk, and then on your TV on the couch when you're in your living room. 1 copy, 2 different places to play it. Like "transfarring" for the PSP/PS3 only with all your games.
After reading some of the comments here I was afraid to watch this. I know Ryan Davis can be the biggest jerk in the industry. But this was just Ryan in argument mode. About 10% jerk drive.
I love some tempered discussion so this show was a real treat. Please have Ryan back some time.
Though, the "one device to rule them all" hypothesis sounds more like wishful thinking to me. I don't think "the most powerful tech" will ever sync with "the most portable tech" to make such device (and some people only want the most powerful stuff). That is, if your not speaking of a possible distant nanobot sci-fi future, in which case it's pretty irrelevant.
Everybody but Ryan Davis in this video is a fucking moron. The theoretical HTPC Steambox is clearly a personal computer put in a smaller form factor, and is a horrible idea that Valve would never do. Little to no games are Linux compatible and with Valve's linux research, at best, certain Source games might become Linux compatible, and at that point what do you have? An overpriced computer that only plays Source engine games, which is ridiculous. Ryan Davis' theoretical streaming box makes way more sense. I'd buy that.
By the way, a game is complete if it's complete. DLC coming out does not retroactively make the on-disk content inadequate.
It's so funny whenever Giant Bomb guys come into GS segments because it totally catches the GS staff off-guard to be dealing with someone who has a brain.
I don't agree with Ryan. People don't just want to buy a new thing just to buy a new thing. They want new consoles because the current generation is ancient and has outdated technology. The wii U is essentially a current gen console, spec wise and through its games lineup. It won't sell half as much as he thinks.
disgaea 3 and wipEout 2048?ahh forget it. I am more surprised by the lack of mgs and final fantasy on the vita, even if it's some sort of port or re-release I'm annoyed for no reason that I wont get ff7 achievements and cloud saves on my vtia
I am in the lucky 1%. PC gaming on my 1080p 46inch TV is beyond wonderful.
Great show thanks to Ryan.
Pre-ordering is only a decent analogy to pre-buying DLC you know next to nothing about if you also know next to nothing about the pre-order. And then you're still not paying up front with no refunds, 6-12 months before the thing is out. All in all it's a whole lot riskier and/or vaguer.
And I think pre-ordering means something different in the US? People like Ryan Davis seem to define it as going down to a store and giving them a downpayment to reserve a copy of a game. I agree, that seems real dumb, especially since you have to get down there again to pick the game up.
To me pre-ordering is pre-ordering a game online if the price is particularly appetizing, and cancelling the order if I find out the game is actually ass or cheaper elsewhere. It's basically a way of guaranteeing I'll be getting the game at the lowest price possible, and as soon as possible I suppose.
Need a spreadsheet to keep track of it, but hey.
Tom made me /face palm at the beginning of the Wii segment. Of course Nintendo is trying to grab people who own Xbox 360's and PS3's. They've been saying that they want to branch back out to their more core gamers. Thus the new Xbox 36 knock off controller. I agree more with their guest speaker.
Here in Norway a new full priced game cost's 600nor, that is about 30 dollars. So a 110 dollar game is less than a full priced game in Norway!
The Wii offered baby boomers not into gaming a glimpse. Times are changing. The future and most of the current have had a PC/Console/Smart Phone//LeapFrog/etc. in front of them early on.
If the Ouya/Steambox can offer fun accessable gaming that doesn't come with the price tag of core gaming then I don't see why it couldn't be a big market.
Only other platform Lego City: Undercover is coming out for is 3DS so hope no one got their hopes up thinking it was coming to 360 or PS3 when Tom said it was multi platform. I'm sad because I would love to play on the 360 but now I gotta play on my 3DS cause I won't be getting a WiiU for a while.
@deadpeasant Yeah. And people really need the new iPhone and iPad. You're a tool.
@hall0559 dude me TOO! though im on a 50" panasonic plasma XD
Me too. Actual 1080p on my PC vs 720p on my PS3 looks so amazing on a big TV. But I'm assuming the next gen console games will support true HD so playing games on my PC might not happen as much in the future. People are saying PC gaming isn't dead and it certainly isn't, but the introduction of next gen consoles will make things interesting.
Yeah, pre-ordering means something entirely different to him.
Talking specifically about people who pre-order long in advance based on blind faith AND pay in full.
Sure, that's about as crazy.
@FireVixen He used to work for Gamespot before leaving to become a founding member of Giantbomb.com which was recently purchased by the same company that owns Gamespot. Honestly, he's one of the main reasons why Gamespot became popular at all.
@FireVixen Ironically he's also the oldest guy.
@lonkilanki I think you mistyped. 600NOK is about 105dollars. Also, you can't compare prices like that because norwegians have a much higher average income than americans.
@destroyeur I don't think you understood what I was saying.
@McStrongfast Also "ostensibly". Don't forget "ostensibly". ;)
@deadpeasant @destroyeur I think what destroyeur was trying to say is that people go out and buy the newest iphone and ipad not because they are so vastly different or better than the previous generation but because they simply like to have the latest thing. Which is true but that same argument can't be made for consoles because we all know that there is at least a 5 year gap between console generations and once they are announced it's more about them being infinitely better than the previous generation. They are not small upgrades. I still think the PS3 and 360 have life in them, most people do not play games on their PC and so the fact that console games only support 720p 98% of the time still isn't an issue for most gamers, they don't know the difference. I can see myself still being happy with my PS3 into 2014 and I'm also a PC gamer.