I have recently moved to buying digital instead of from stores. Thanks to steam I get good deals for great games here and there @SamuriSeven I used to buy only hard copies cause I too enjoyed a disc and case. You also said you enjoy limited editions with extra goodies. Why not have digital preorders either mail physical items to your house, or get digital content like an extra gun or map/mission? I believe that could sway some of the customers that feel they need a physical "something" with the game itself
could you PLEASE add a section to the main menu for EVERY show from gamespot? the search engine is a pain to use and I can't even find older episodes of quoted for truth.
People are so incompetent about a capitalist culture. Competition breeds innovation & cheaper prices. 1 console means lazy crap games that cost a zillion dollars eventually.
I am in favor of a PC-only gaming future. There is simply no need for consoles anymore. The PC can do everything a console can do and do it better. For the longest I had only PC and I would get frustrated when a game I wanted to play was not released on the platform I had. Then I added an Xbox 360, but the same thing kept happening. There were games that were not available on PC or 360. Now I have a PC, a Mac, an Xbox 360, a Playstation 3, a Wii, an Android phone and an Ipod Touch. Even with all that hardware, there are still games on Vita and 3DS I can't play.
It's just ridiculous. There are too many choices. It makes lowers game quality and increases game prices when developers have to invest so much into porting games to multiple formats instead of just concentrating on making one good game. Additionally, the cost of having to purchase multiple gaming platforms is outrageous for the consumer. You are left with the choice of shelling out mountains of cash or not being able to play all the games you want to play.
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- Well I certainly dont think its possible for tabs to replace consoles any time soon. I think core gaming will still be in consoles. However, I could imagine cut down (crappy) versions of the console games in tabs/smartphones though.
- So about the once console future. I think there being multiple consoles is a good thing for gamers. The competition between the gaming giants is what drives them to make their platform better ... imho
What happened to the fast, quick hits format of the first few episodes? (aka the PTI format)
While I like the opinions expressed on the show, I'd like a shorter (20 min-ish) show to get my weekly news wrapped up quickly and move on with my day.
The comments about tablet and handheld gaming got me thinking a bit.
If console developers really want to "compete" with tablets and mobile phones in general, they need to drop the whole "home console" thing altogether and JUST make a handheld.
If this handheld can be used as both a mobile gaming platform and double as a home console, they'll maintain their core audience while dipping into the mobile gaming audience as well. This would require doing a lot of development for wireless gaming. If you can play a game on your handheld, then sync it up to your tv and play on the big screen (with the handheld system used as a controller), then pause your game and pull it back to your handheld device so you can take it with you as you go, it would be an amazing leap forward for the console side of the industry.
Everything is connected to everything else. How do you acquire language? Via immersion in a group of language users, how do you have ideas? Via one another. The problem is when groups want to have property rights over culture.
The argument to have one console is very similar to the argument given by most governments for the necessity of state run or naturally occurring monopolies. In theory, by pooling these resources they will be more effective, however real-world economics shows that this is almost never the case. Countries with highly concentrated telecommunications typically provide more expensive and less reliable service, public sector oil companies routinely underperform private sector ones, even infrastructure usually has a private component these days (public-private collaboration).
A one console future, is a future with perverted incentive schemes, and lacking the creative destruction necessary to create new experiences. What we think of as "waste" in converting from platform-to-platform is actually an extremely effective means of evolution through choice in the gaming industry.
Zynga definitely copied the Sims Social. And that's the thing: It's not an iteration it's an almost exact copy. However, there is that gray area. Like the boys said about the popular shooters. If tablets take over I'm going to be very very disappointed. Oddly enough I'm typing this on an iPad...lol irony.
I don't think people realize the extreme technical hurdles that exist to get mobile hardware up to the levels required for just DX9 type levels (xbox 360 / ps3). The problem exists because of the inherent limitations in mobile hardware, mainly thermal constraints and battery life. Mobile graphics has made huge progress in the last few years but remember that the mobile industry is a relatively new phenomenon so there has been room to grow. A process shrink, say from 40nm to 28nm, will help improve the level of performance over the next year or two but beyond that it will get much harder to squeeze extra performance.
Look at a "similar" type platform such as the ultrabook platform (a relative of tablets), where there have been problems with systems that come equipped with a discrete graphics chip. The biggest problem is even equipped with a relatively weak mobile GPU there isn't enough cooling within the platform to dissipate all the heat when the system is stressed, i.e. playing a game. The result of this is the CPU and/or the GPU will clock down making the game unplayable. Also the entire laptop gets extremely hot which isn't good for the internal components and it consumes a lot more power draining the battery quickly. I think the big advances in the mobile phone / tablet GPUs are going to be tied much more into chip fab manufacturing shrinking their process nodes. Considering the xbox 360 and ps3 use on average about 170 watts, that would be a tall order to cool down inside a phone or tablet. I recently bought a PS Vita and was pretty impressed with the graphics which are approaching current gen console graphics. But the PS Vita's screen is at a fairly low resolution. As mobile devices keep increasing their screen resolution which seems to be the trend, it becomes that much harder to drive a game at native resolution, especially since mobile chips have very limited memory bandwidth.
Me picking Zynga's side over someone else's and Gamestop being a potential ally against digital distribution...I must be going mad
John Carmack stands to make an awful lot of money if EA wins this case against Zynga. Just how many people can he sue for making FPS games
'he who is without sin chuck the first stone'. None are innocent , all art is an improvement upon that which have come before. It started from the first cave painting and now we have Van Gogh. EA is just calling Zynga on their BS but they're not pure as the driven snow either. Both are guilty and need to shut up, acknowledge they both are before more dirty laundry comes out and by golly it will.
pong was made into the tv years ago i think it was the first video game then they started making boxes
The one console future idea is why I've thought that ultimately the television will become the gaming center and NO console will be required. I think we're headed toward subscription service gaming (something like OnLive) as a viable option. We already have gotten accustomed to doing it with movies and TV (Netflix, Hulu, etc.) and music (Napster, etc.). It's a logical extension for gaming. The infrastructure isn't there yet to make it completely viable but don't be surprised in another ten years when you just use bluetooth to connect a controller straight to your TV and use an app to connect to an online games service that you pay a monthly subscription to access.
Digital distribution isn't a bad thing but the infrastructure just is NOT ready and in place to go to a digital only model for anything outside of PC. Even with an awesome Internet connection it still takes FOREVER to download even patches and updates half the time much less full 5 to 15GB games on consoles. The systems don't exactly sell with enough hard drive space to make this very viable in this gen and probably won't in the next either. The alternative would be some form of cloud gaming but then we have to start talking DRM and always connected issues.
Anyone who thinks tablets or smartphones are going to take over as the go to for gaming needs to just hand in their gamer card now. I would rather just quit gaming all together than see it go that direction. This new crowd of "gamer" don't play games seriously and are ultimately bad consumers to tailor something toward. They are even more fickle than the hardcore market, don't want to spend more than a few bucks on a game, and use their devices for gaming as a secondary concern. It's just a setup for making shovelware and their is ZERO consumer loyalty to be found there.
There is copycatting stuff from other games... and then there is just blatantly ripping off other games. Zynga isn't even bothering to make the Ville look different from The Sims Social.
If the number of AAA releases is going to go down then why do we need new consoles? You don't need a PS3 to play games like Spelunky.
@Aim4theheads97 I like that idea but it kind of defeats the purpose of digital distribution from the perspective of the developer/publisher. If they have to send out physical items of any kind they're on the hook for all the manufacturing costs and shipping costs associated with that, which of course cuts into their profits. The whole point of digital is the fact they don't actually need to create any material goods and it costs them nothing to send things out (besides server fees). So it seems like if they ever added in the option for some physical goodies with the digital purchase it would prob come at a higher price than the standard digital copy, which would not sit well with people such as myself.
@DJQuickFix I thought that was what start/select was for. Granted I think 20 minutes is a better sweet spot for length...they seem to be doing many more start/selects lately though. I think having a different style show like this that is more opinion and argument is kinda cool. I'm not entirely sure how they coordinate between US and UK for deciding what shows to do.
@Greyfeld I think that is totally going to happen. Much in the same way that Microsoft and Sony did their own takes of the wii-mote idea, I think they will do something similar with the wii-u, which is almost what you just described...but not quite.
@Yulaw2000 Feels awesome, don't it?
@seeinbytes it will never happen anyway. The closest thing that could possibly happen is a unified OS for consoles so that games would be cross compatible. I only see that happening between microsoft and sony though...Nintendo does not like to play with other companies...I think they especially have issues with sony after the nintendo cd fiasco in the 90's.
That's such bunk though, The Sims has been around in various forms for over a decade, and it's remained relatively unchanged. Someone else comes along and makes a game that's almost identical, but what's the problem here...? EA has been churning out identical Sims games for years, it was a series ripe for copying, and just because someone took SO many of the ideas and even the graphical appeal, does NOT make it copyright infringement. I sure hope any judge agrees on this! Zynga haven't stole anything, they just put out a game remarkably similar to the 30 other The Sims games on the market. Every genre across every system ever has a history of this, it's not necessarily bad for people to use other's ideas to create their own thing.
@pixelpusher66 I think the current trend for cooling/extending battery life is to put extra cores in that kick in to handle background processing and prevent any one core from getting too hot. Also creating processors that function with lower voltage so as to prevent the heat issue. Technology is a tricky beast to predict...at any moment a new discovery could be made that would blow our current perceptions out of the water.
@buccomatic Lol this is so far out to lunch I can't even begin to debate it....
@buccomatic NOOOOOOO! Whoa, I just woke up! You wouldnt believe the nightmare I just had... ;)
@buccomatic Thats wrong for 2 reasons 1. Games on consoles and games on tablets are clearly 2 different animals for reasons other than just the power of the tablets. Developers who make games on tablets mainly make them FOR tablets and the content is mostly casual because the players of teblet and phone games for the most part are out for throw away experiences....Youll never find the sheer amount of hardcore games on a tablet as youll find on a dedicated device for that.
2.Pc games are going NOWHERE no matter what people say...THE platform will be PC for dozens of reasons among them ease of development and massive installed base.
The reason that tablets are so close to consoles is due to the age of the currant generation. A top of the range graphics card, such as the GTX 680 would not come close to fitting inside a tablet it would need to be at least breeze block sized
@endorbr I'm sure this is on Google's mind with regard to their new fiber optic service they are rolling out in Kansas City. OnLive is an interesting development in gaming, but I don't think we are quite there yet. Perhaps in the next 5 years though. Currently people are still too attached to their physical product. I would not get OnLive currently for several reasons, but mainly because I could purchase a game and still not own it. At any point Onlive could cease to host a game and then it is gone. I have similar problems with Netflix that just took Stargate Atlantis off its streaming service while I was in the middle of watching a season.
@endorbr aaahh dont say that. thats a horrible thought, good theory though
@endorbr It will always take forever...it seems the faster our internet connection gets, the more impatient we become.
@endorbr you are basing this on what tablets and consoles currently are. What if you had a tablet that could dock into a console and play hardcore hi-res games, but then when you needed to go, you could undock it and take it with you. Sure, the graphics would have to scale down a bit, but it would be the same game. One thing that always bothered me about console gaming is the split screen for multiplayer on the same tv. That could eliminate that problem. Consoles and tablets don't have to fight each other...they could work together and be something new and awesome.
@endorbr awesomely said !! though i do like the new microsoft tablet that's coming, on in the fact you can plug a controller (wireless) into it and take it anywhere (vita beater??) but if its gonna be 600 700 quid pointless !!! but yeah i hear you bro :)
@Hornsqualid Wouldn't it be freaking sweet, though? The Wii u is just clunky and unnecessary, but imagine playing a title on your PSP (or Vita or 3DS or whatever) while you're out and about, then you get home and sit on your couch and you hit a button to sync up to your tv.
Then BAM, the game you were just playing pops up on your tv and you continue from exactly where you were on your handheld, using the system as a controller.
The only real problem I see is local multiplayer, with a lack of separate controllers. But I'm not a developer for christ sake, I can't come up with everything lol.
@Sgthombre Yep. :D
@juboner We as gamers may not like the idea but I think ultimately we'll be accepting of it and see that it does have it's benefits. For one it SHOULD be cheaper to the individual gamer and provide broad access to a variety of content if done properly. We just have to hope that if and when this model does happen that it's a good company that helms it and not an EA or Zynga kind of company.
@Greyfeld to an extent the psp vita does do this. Microsoft is the only one lagging behind on this new idea. I'm not entirely happy with the wii-u or psp vita sync to ps3 ideas though. Being the last one to market, Microsoft does have the opportunity to outshine them. It really makes me wonder the full extent of their plans with their new Surface technologies.
@GarGx1 i dont think its that old but i dont get the same feeling as i used to from games. i want to keep loving them until i die also
How can you make 29 sound old? I started gaming in 1975 with a pong style TV game console, I was 5, moved on to Space Invaders and never looked back. I'll be enjoying gaming until I physically can't hold a mouse or controller :)
@endorbr man the joy and excitement going to the arcade when i was younger awesome memories
@juboner I get ya. I'm the same. I grew up playing in the arcades and on my Atari 2600 before the NES came around. It's just some of that change that will be hard to accept at first. Like I said I just hope when it happens it's done right from the start and we don't have to suffer the kind of growing pains that could kill the industry.
@endorbr physical games and consoles have ben engrained into me from growing up with nes, its like how old people gripe and say in my day it was better. I think i only have a little while longer loving videogames im 29 and can feel it coming, kinda sucks