GS News - Xbox One defends 1080p ability, PS4 does it with "Room To Spare"

Hideo Kojima talks up the resolution superpowers of the PS4 while Microsoft defend accusations that the Xbox One can’t handle 1080p. Also, Steam Tags?

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Shilleto
Shilleto

GS News - Xbox One defends 1080p ability, PS4 does it with "Room To Spare"  what thats why alot of games on ps4 can't do 1080p lol

dlxowhd
dlxowhd

microsoft cheaped out so bad and put such a shitty retarded graphics unit in xbox one... i feel sorry for people who bought xbone.. so called 'next gen' console that can't even run 1080p.

GregoryBastards
GregoryBastards

This is all true...but all games look like 4090p after 6 joints...so...I dont see what the problem is really.

Pewbert
Pewbert

Wonderbras work wonders.

staticsnake87
staticsnake87

Wow, this girls accent. Glad I signed up for this website

boixwunder
boixwunder

60FPS is more important than 1080p... if it was running at 900p and 60FPS I would not fault them... but the two "next gen" consoles running their games at 30FPS and less than 1080p is pretty sad. My PC poops next gen consoles and it only has a HD7950 with a mild OC. Regardless, peoples obsession with 1080p is pretty unfounded. It is just a number and for the most part you cannot tell the difference between 720p, 900p and 1080p unless you have really good eyes. The Frame Rate, however, is something that can be noticed by most people. The next gen consoles should have been striving for 1440p to be actually "next gen", at this point, they are just struggling to be current. More reinforcement for me to not get either one.

ShimmerMan
ShimmerMan

What kind of next gen console can't run games at the native resolution which is the common standard for everyday HDTV/monitors.

walterg74
walterg74

This idiot (and probably paid) kojima is a joke... If the ps4 has "room to spare", the why oh why does tomb raider keep dropping and dipping frames like there's no tomorow..?

angelofbeast198
angelofbeast198

omg why they just lower the dam  x1 for $400 is not like there losing any money this ms dude is load it with it so the lost of $100 is like 1 peny out of $100 bucks i own already so not saying so i can get it i am saying cuz this getting old already like they know they are lowering it just do it already 


RyogaRod
RyogaRod

Again, glad I got a PS4 over the weekend! As both systems age I don't think it will be much of an issue. "The Order 1886" is a game I'm really looking forward to. I have a 360 still and looking forward to Titanfall. In May I'll be looking forward to Mario Kart 8 on my Wii U! I don't understand the whole "Loyalty" thing when it comes to consoles. Good games coming out on each system!

Shantmaster_K
Shantmaster_K

I love my Xbox One, but I'll admit it is getting annoying with these games not coming out in 1080p. Although it isn't a huge deal for me personally, I just find it difficult to understand why a game can't be 1080p on both consoles.

furrionn
furrionn

And another important statement. When are we going to start receiving games that give you that uncertainty feeling when you pick up the controller and you turn it on for the first time? I miss the feeling of playing a game for the first time and you can't put the controller down for hours, only having to go to sleep wondering what is going to happen next in the game. I never get that feeling anymore with most games and it's frustrating. I believe that developers need to be focusing on that than pushing a higher end graphic for the same ole game set up.

furrionn
furrionn

There is a fundamental issue with the arguments on this post. You have several people that are arguing which console is "better". Better is such a subjective term that it be constituted in so many different ways. When it comes to the PS4, yes, the hardware can handle 1080p better than the Xbox One can. Xbox One took the RISK and the BET that 1080p is not going to be the deciding factor on this console. They took the BET that multiplayer seamless play is going to be the deciding factor. There is so much more POTENTIAL in the cloud when it comes to developing games. IE Making the AI more adaptable to our gameplay, algorithms that we can't even begin to comprehend, and a cheaper solution for developers so they can focus on the game rather than, "OMG we have to spend how much for servers?!?!" 


Personally, I have an Xbox One and I'm taking the bet that I will enjoy their games and also the multi function applications much more than I would a PS4 that really cannot multitask (Today). I've played the PS4 and cross platforms are not that different at all (I own a Samsung Smart 3D TV). The only difference I noticed was the online gameplay which favors the X1. I will say however that I would be curious to see a full 1080p 60FPS game on the PS4 on my TV, because I can appreciate the fine graphics, but is that a deciding factor for buying a console for ME? No. 


I can also say that PS4 could not handle what Titanfall is doing from a seamless smooth perspective ONLINE at a 1080p 60 fps standard, it would not run as smooth as it would with lets say a 720p/900p level. PS4's cloud really focuses on the Streaming of old and current games on multiple devices, which is great, however I don't see myself playing a Titanfall type game on a Vita, I'd rather play my games on my nice TV.

acctaks
acctaks

@dlxowhd I feel sorry for people who believe that their console has the latest and greatest in graphics capabilities when it actually contains an entry level outdated GPU as well. Buy the console of choice, play games, have fun. I'm pretty sure GTAV is running at 1080p on both consoles at the same framerate. 

GregoryBastards
GregoryBastards

My god im tired of hearing about the pc....stfu about it...everyone one has a pc...try running metal gear solid 5 on your epic ass pc...

Simba13
Simba13

@ShimmerMan  I have to agree, with next gen tv's already available, but being held back only by being currently still too expensive for mass appeal, both MS and Sony should have been shooting for a higher than today's standard 1080p resolution. Their new consoles are supposed to be at the beginning of their expected 10 year life cycle, but at the moment, with the speed of modern technology's progression, they will be practically obsolete in half that time.

Expect mk 2 versions of at least the Xbone in about 2 years.

BorgMind00
BorgMind00

@ShimmerMan  It's not a matter of not being able to do it, it's a matter of not knowing how to do it. With updates to the development tools, they 3rd party devs with eventually learn how and this won't be an issue. If not being able to do it was the case then Forza and Kinect Sports rivals wouldn't be running at 1080p. Both those titles are first party titles and naturally they would have better knowledge of the way their system works.

Glasscut32
Glasscut32

@walterg74  Does Tomb raider use the Fox Engine ?? no.. Different game different engine.. your point ????

Glasscut32
Glasscut32

@skyman_1981  There is nothing left to unlock my friend i don't think you know what your talking about.. The Xbox One scaler is having problems due to low tech hardware in the fucking console also.. DDR3 will never be able to do what Sony 8GB of GDDR5 can do with a supercharged architecture ( no latency for all those nerds try to talk about ram or bus latency GTFO ).. Also they can come out with 100 SDK's adjusting the scaler and trying to get the esRam to perform better.. Which is "exactly" the problem nobody like to learn new tricks every 2 months to develop a game for a console ( changing SDK's ).. 


Call a spade a spade for once.. Microsoft dropped the ball.. Anybody that has basic knowledge of pc hardware can affirm this period.. 

BestJinjo
BestJinjo

@skyman_1981  What are you smoking? There is only 1 videocard in XB1, it is 768 stream processors, 16 ROPs, Bonaire style HD7790 1GB with crippled memory bandwidth. We know the GPU in the PS4 is approximately 50% more powerful by just comparing the specifications of XB1 vs. PS4's GPUs as they both come from the same Graphics Core Next family of PC GPUs. 


There is absolutely no hidden magic in the XB1 GPU. If anything, it's even more crippled than the desktop HD7790 since at least the PS4 GPU uses the proper GDDR5 memory interface that all of the top PC GPUs use.

This is not the first game to prove XB1 is simple less powerful than PS4.

walterg74
walterg74

I think the "stupid bitch" was actually your momma for having you... She is just reporting news, idiot.

mattress805
mattress805

Microsoft's pride and their obsession with motion controls might put them in 3rd place in the console war if they keep holding on to them. Microsoft is not gonna like the ps4 sales numbers after it releases in Japan. They're gonna have to lower the price soon. Microsoft has forgotten how the xbox 360 became so big in the US. Great games, a year head start, and a console that was 100$ and 200$ cheaper than the ps3.

GregoryBastards
GregoryBastards

Yeah im gonna use xbox one for the shooters...ps4 for rpgs and wii u for...uh....bayonetta 2.

walterg74
walterg74

Oh it's easy the explanation is this: people are idiots...

mattress805
mattress805

Welcome to the family. I got a launch day ps4 and I still have my 360 too and I plan to purchase 2 final games for the 360. Stick of Truth and Dark souls 2. Play Outlast!! My favorite game on the ps4 righ now. If you like survival horror....it's one of the best ever in my opinion.

Glasscut32
Glasscut32

@Shantmaster_K  Due to hardware limitations a game cannot be 1080p on the Xbox One.. it's really not that difficult to understand.. 

BestJinjo
BestJinjo

@Shantmaster_K  Because the GPU in PS4 is nearly 50% more powerful, hence it's able to push more details/pixels on the screen at the same FPS. 

jophy
jophy

@Shantmaster_K  ikr. look at the order 1886. it looks simply nex gen material. x1 really loses out a lot not being in 1080

Simba13
Simba13

@furrionn : 

I know what you mean about the excitement you get from playing a game the first time. 

But that's down to the GAMES writers, artists and programmers at the software houses, not the machines developers and its the same no matter whether you play on a console or a pc.

Its why out of all the games released each year, only a very few of them can actually be called "Great Games".

teufelherz
teufelherz

@furrionn True! Not a deciding factor for me either. There is only one rumored feature of the PS4 I would really like to have on my xbox one though, and that is the backwards compatibility they will be adding for ps1 and ps2 games (if true). Other than that, I am very happy with what the Xbox one is offering now.

weapon2057
weapon2057

STFU @GregoryBastards  My PC's 3-4 years old and isn't epic at all and can run high res @ 60fps then both PS4 and Xbone.  @Glasscut32  has a good point you tool box. 

walterg74
walterg74

My point, since you obviously don't see it, is that it's not that it has room to spare and the xb1 doesn't (as he implicitly means to say), but rather that it all comes down to lousy programming. Tomb raider programmers must be shittier then, since it doesn't perform as well on the ps4-dropping frames well beyon the claimed 60-, and in turn kojima and his engine must also be crappier than others, being that those others put out games in 1080p on the xb1 and he can't... Oh and regarding the "super" fox engine, yeah.. You can REALLY tell how much of a wonder it is just by looking at PES 2014, huh..?

nkuk
nkuk

@mattress805  and many Xbox owners had to buy multiple systems due to the hardware problems, bumping up the numbers.

Simba13
Simba13

@GregoryBastards:  

Don't forget "X" on the WII U as well. That looks a great game. Supposed to be more Final Fantasy than the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy was.

walterg74
walterg74

It does but we don't know yet why..., you say the order, cool, but look at forza 5, nfs rivals, nba 2k14, all 1080p on xb1

Shantmaster_K
Shantmaster_K

@jophy @Shantmaster_K  Well I wouldn't define next gen just on 1080p. Xbox One has a lot of good games which I care about more. There really isn't a huge difference in 720p vs 1080p, but really there shouldn't be a reason why these games shouldn't be 1080p on both consoles. 

chippiez
chippiez

@sk8rjason @walterg74  Forza, The sports games.  There's more than you think.  What PS4 game maintains 1080 60?  none.  but it doesn't matter.  For fuk's sake, it's not a big deal... 45 to 60 fps... 900 to 1080p.. it really doesn't matter. 

walterg74
walterg74

@sk8rjason

1) I don't have to deal with anything, as I own all consoles. 2) yes, that is in fact the point, and it's due to lousy programming. 3) i don't give a crap what a great "designer" he is, he may come up with great stories being on acid or other shit, still he's not the programmer. 4) he can very well be paid off (hence the praise) and that has nothing to do with the company he belongs to releasing games for more than tpjust the ps4 platform...

sk8rjason
sk8rjason

@walterg74  Oh and try and name one game that runs 1080p @60fps on Xbox One. You can't because there isn't one.

sk8rjason
sk8rjason

@walterg74  The real point which you refuse to see is that the Xbox One can't run MGS in 1080p @60fps. Deal with it, stop making ridiculous claims about one of the greatest game designers of all time because the Xbox One is substandard. If Kojima was "paid off" as you say then MGS would not be on Xbox at all.

Simba13
Simba13

@nkuk @mattress805

 "and many Xbox owners had to buy multiple systems due to the hardware problems, bumping up the numbers."


But at least there were plenty left over so that they were soon replaced!

If they had been REALLY unlucky they would have bought a PS4, then they would have had to wait ages because there were non left unsold.

OH whoops! :(

Glasscut32
Glasscut32

@nkuk @mattress805  Great comment for all the business majors you all know that a sale is a sale.. muahaha regardless if what you sold is a brick and was returned.. Which inflated the Xbox 360 sales numbers.. People actually believe Microsoft sold 80 million Xbox 360's.. But hey that's business.. 

walterg74
walterg74

Considering they gave you. 3 year extended warranty, i would say very little users, and only among those that bought the first models even

Simba13
Simba13

@Shantmaster_K @jophy : 

I have a Pioneer AV amp and everything gets upscaled by that automatically, before you see it in 1080p on screen.

The reason I say that is because it wouldn't make a noticeable difference to me which consoles resolution was actually put out. 

HOWEVER, it wouldn't be able to do anything for the frame rates, therefore frame rates must be more important, because if you have low framerates you have a jerky maybe even unplayable game.

It's true that in a side by side comparison, especially in a fast flowing action sequence, most people wouldn't be able to see the difference. But NO well made game should be sold if it can't maintain at least 30fps, because lower than that can really destroy someones enjoyment of the game, which nowadays aren't cheap to buy!

Shantmaster_K
Shantmaster_K

@Glasscut32 @Shantmaster_K @jophy  I didn't say there wasn't a difference you moron. Learn to read and understand what you are reading. Xbox One can run games in 1080p. That is why it bothers me. 

Glasscut32
Glasscut32

@Shantmaster_K @jophy  Hahahaha another person saying that there is not a difference between 720p and 1080p,.. I wonder what kind of T.V. you have.. Or if you learned any math in school.. I will leave it at that.. I recommend also going to an eye doctor.