GS News - Xbox Live Punishing Abuse, Facebook’s Oculus Buyout Fallout!

We give you all the juicy details on Facebook buying Oculus VR, and what you need to know about how Microsoft is monitoring your Xbox Live behaviour!

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73 comments
keyboarder20
keyboarder20

i'm tired of  playing stupid people online and i'm fed up with people who report you and give you a bad reputation because they loose a multiplayer online game that I no longer play online games. As a result. I didn't renew my live gold membership. It is really nice not having to listen to nasty idiotic  morons.

beastmodeactive
beastmodeactive

I think it would be hilarious if people with a bad reputation could have their systems remotely bricked by Microsoft for say 24 hours or something for being douchie little hob goblins on XBL. 

bennubird1
bennubird1

 I think the reputation move is long overdue. The gaming community needs to confront its own emotional immaturity or risk going down the slippery slope of making the gaming environment less and less pleasant.

translucent17
translucent17

GS you gotta be more careful how you throw around the word "fallout"....... Don't play with my emotions

couly
couly

I read the title wrong, I thought it was Facebook and Oculus buyout Fallout (from Bethesda)

EvilZeroSc
EvilZeroSc

Awesome, another reason to pick up a PS4

dannydopamine8
dannydopamine8

Screw Microsoft and console gaming. Another good reason to be a PC gamer.. You are your own boss you aren't some companies bitch

Ensabuhnur
Ensabuhnur

Makes good sense and its about time.  

jimmy_russell
jimmy_russell

>don't cheat kids

game has computer assisted aiming built into it

cjtopspin
cjtopspin

...thought I was going to watch a video about how Facebook bought the "Fallout" series.


scraper2k
scraper2k

Stupid idea! Theres soooooooooooo many gamers online that give you a bad report for killing them in an online game.


Are children thinking up these ideas at microsoft?

rickphoenixxx
rickphoenixxx

Now if they could only put the cheaters and campers together somehow, that would be heaven. Good to see this implemented, hope it becomes more the norm for online shooters.

AnonymousSquid
AnonymousSquid

I'm all for a reputation system. Cast the trolls away to play among themselves. I wish Sony copies Microsoft on this one.

mr_nee
mr_nee

Here's a thought -- since MS and Facebook is so closely related, is it possible that the real buyer is MS not Oculus? And this is Xbox's new VR head set?

devilzzz1983
devilzzz1983

Thanks MS for trying to clean up the gaming communities.  In regards to Oculus it is dead and I am looking for excellent alternatives.  Step it up Sony and other companies!

ericfoss
ericfoss

Who would invest in this?  The technology really hasn't evolved much from Virtual Boy.  The problem then and now is that people don't want to strap the equivalent of a cathode ray tube television to their face.  It really isn't that difficult to understand.


This is far from ready for prime time.  Jeez.  This looks ancient compared to Google Glass, even.  


I hope, for Mark Zuckerberg's sake, that Oculus has some secret technology that we don't know about.  Otherwise, Zuckerberg's even dumber than he looks...

DWalker131
DWalker131

almost broke into tears just then when i thought the headlines reads 'xbox punishing abuse and xbox BUYOUT FALLOUT" thought they were making FALLOUT the game an exclusive on the next gen, like what nintendo did with BAYONETTA

lilflipp
lilflipp

"Facebook creeps me out."

Well, didn't Facebook initially get started to rate campus hookers or something. I don't recall the movie too well.

I mean, that is pretty creepy.

youre_a_sheep
youre_a_sheep

Even if they somehow got the reputation system to work and made it impossible to abuse it, I have a hard time believing the huge percentage of cretins online will change their behavior.  It's far more likely MS will give up and decide only the worst of the worst will have any action taken against them.


Facebook is a malevolent force that soothes the insecure and inflates users' sense of self importance, which directly contributes to just the sort of behavior MS is now trying to curb.  No matter how badly a person acts in real life, their virtual self has an online shrine devoted to them, complete with "friends".  Why change when they're clearly awesome?

jellystanchina
jellystanchina

When playing Titanfall I quickly found the mute checkbox for team mates. Listening to children swear is really awful.  I'm 45 now and I do remember  as a child swearing up a storm.  This was however not broadcast to adults, all of the time. So I feel hypocritical to complain, happy about mute buttons, and wishing kids wouldn't swear even though I did.

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

Jess please pass this on to management. So now GS is cancelling two shows. I'm guessing due to lack of viewership. Well Geniuses-(management), You are not getting views, because nobody knows when the shows are new anymore and people don't go looking for them when you are constantly putting up empty click-bait articles.  you have ruined the main page of your site. The list of shows on this page should be on the main page just like  it is here, Then in the middle the most recent news NOT the most commented articles that are as much as 5 days old.  Then below that have they top 5 most comment articles  of the last 48 hours tops. Not this 3 to 5 day old stuff.  IF you need me as a consultant my rates are competitive.   And this is not directed at you Jess. its directed at management. Thanks.

oskuuu
oskuuu

i've got like 6 avoids from trash-talking and i don't even have mic x(

TigusVidiks
TigusVidiks

it's crazy if the feedback is still given by other users, as there are a lot of negative votes simply because you were better

guardianofhonor
guardianofhonor

So Microsoft is profiling people and Spybook bought out the OR, probably to turn it into some mind control device. All this fascist crap is too much for me to even rant about...

crazywolf5150
crazywolf5150

I also like the idea of penalizing annoying people on the internet. Squeekers, douchebags and other trolls beware! I hope that other online services offer this feature in the future.

GunEye
GunEye

MS rocks!

I love the idea of penalizing idiots and little overgrown kids who can't keep their mouth shut. The reputation system sounds awesome.


Now: Game loaning: now that sounds great. Can someone please tell me how this works?

I don't own XB1 or XB360, but I sure feel jealous of that last feature. PS4/3 not gonna have it...


TimberWolf_CLT
TimberWolf_CLT

Hi Astrid...  I think "crap fest" is a pretty succinct way to sum it up.  You always have that cute grin when you say something like that.

I'm one of the Oculus Kickstarter backers and I have to tell you that I'm mystified as to why some of my fellow backers feel that they have a dog in this fight.

Kickstarter backers donate money to help fledgling projects succeed.  In return we receive "rewards" commensurate with the amount of the donation if the project succeeds. 

Oculus' only duty to us was to provide those rewards and to give us early access to their SDK and dev kits.  They did so and therefore they met their obligation to us.  As far as I can tell we got what we paid for and then some  These terms were clearly stated from the get-go and reiterated upon by Kickstarter staff on several occasions.

This feeling that some of my fellow backers have that they're entitled to essentially tell Oculus how to run it's business really strikes me as infantile.  No such "say so" was ever promised nor is due us. 

SpLiTMaN
SpLiTMaN

why in the hell would zuckerberg give 2 billions...1 billion...2 billion WTF! why BILLIONS!!!!! our fudging government can't even do that for roads that don't self destroy themself's....that's why im so concerned about this its too much money for no reason...and i don't trust money given for no reason...there's always a c*ck at the end...

SaintsRowLA
SaintsRowLA

Thank you Jess. I enjoyed the show. Great show, great news, and Jess is always a delight.


Sorry in a bad mood yesterday.  I wasn't serious in my comments.  I'm not sure you care anyway, but I love you and your show anyway.

Leria
Leria

@Ensabuhnur  


No, it does not make good sense. If you play 'well' and anger someone because you are not part of a clique of gamers, you could get your account downrated.

No, unless someone is using too much profanity or calling someone out on a regular basis, this is a bad idea.

scraper2k
scraper2k

@AnonymousSquid  I hope sony dont copy, and im sure they 100% wont as its a dumb idea. If you kill someone online all hes got to do is report you with bad feedback lol.


Its old news on the microsoft reputation system that FAILED big time. 

Darkfall_05
Darkfall_05

@mr_nee
Well Microsoft apparently (source: wikipedia.org) owns 1.3% of Facebook

Gears_0f_L0ve
Gears_0f_L0ve

@jellystanchina  I feel it conveys emotion properly and comically, when used properly, but kids nowadays, use it every other word, which is just purely annoying.  

tempertress
tempertress moderator staff

@spartanx169x  Those site formatting things are being fixed as we speak. Expect changes to roll out over the next few weeks. It's not always lack of viewership, shows come and go. We would never punish a show for the site formatting being a problem though so don't worry about that. We're aware of it. 

getupandboogie
getupandboogie

@spartanx169x  if you are referring to the waiting game, and feedbackula, I assume they are going as Jonneh has left gamespot.


To be fair to gamespot, i do enjoy most their shows (including top 5 skyrim mods, and i hate skyrim). If GTA diaries, random encounter, skyrim mods, or house of horrors go, then ill be a little bit more upset.

roguemedicBC
roguemedicBC

@oskuuu I have also had the same problem with this; apparently I too have this amazing ability to trash talk without a mic. 

Then there was a gaming session where my 360 crashed and I got negative feedback for "leaving a game early". The problem also lies with having 20 some odd players not paying attention to who's doing the talking at the time and people just slap whoever is nearby with negative rep.

xeis-net
xeis-net

@oskuuu  I played Darksouls as a dark wraith, the babies on xbox did the same to me (I also have no mic).

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@TigusVidiks  Saying that it is early days and banning innocent well mannered people likely will happen at some point but even so if it is going to last it will have to be stable and sophisticated enough to counter that.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@TigusVidiks  Yeah I'm sure the algorithm they are using will be a little more sophisticated than that if they are using it as a means to ban services from people.

They can't go saying we are banning you from using this service you paid for simply because we failed to implement our feedback system properly.

Xenrathe
Xenrathe

@TimberWolf_CLT  Well I think they view Kickstarter in a different way than you do, and I'm inclined to be more sympathetic to their viewpoint than yours.

I don't really think that Kickstarter is meant to just be a distribution platform. That is, there's a little more to it than just "I put in $20 and you give me my reward." It's not a pre-purchase platform in the same way that pre-purchasing a game on Steam is.

Rather, I (and presumably those who are upset) view Kickstarter as a statement of support for a given team, product idea, or development methodology. For example, I backed Double Fine Adventure even though I have no interest in adventure games because I wanted to demonstrate the viability of game development outside of the traditional studio/distribution binary.

Thus had Double Fine eventually obtained distributor support along with all of the development restrictions, I would have felt that they betrayed their initial promise to me.

I didn't back OR, so I have no idea what the pitch actually looked like. But I imagine those who are angry likewise feel betrayed that OR's kickstarter was essentially used to garner interest and raise the value of this eventual acquisition 2 billion dollar acquisition. Considering Kickstarter's mission statement is [verbatim] a means for the little guy to have his dream turned into reality, I find it hard not to feel at least some sympathy towards the OR backers who are upset. Their anger is a far cry from feeling 'entitled to tell Oculus how to run its business.'

DeltaCobra
DeltaCobra

Personally, I think hookers being hookers is kind of creepy. Calling them hookers if they are being hookers, is not as creepy as it is informative.

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

@tempertress @spartanx169x  First Thanks for responding, I've been posting that message on every video so somebody will eventually see it. I know there are lots of people just like me that are missing shows because they don't have that list that was once there. And simply don't, won't or can't take time to go looking to see what is new and what is not.

As I side note I really like Danny's, Cam's ,and your shows. I would be disappointed if they got cancelled.  

PeejayYeh
PeejayYeh

@tempertress @spartanx169xBut most of the shows are great. It is just sad that Feedbackula is one of the best shows ever. Any new shows with the same format?

SaintsRowLA
SaintsRowLA

@homelessgamer  

You act you can't read.


I post wasn't bad.  It was bluntly honest compliment to Jess and an insult to this site.