GS News - Battlefield 4 had “Dirt All Over It” + Secret Xbox One GPU?

Find out what’s in Nvidia’s $3000 GeForce GTTitan Z, who hates EA more than you do, and where you can get that $450 Xbox One/Titanfall bundle!

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shinjuki
shinjuki

I don't think facebook has ever had "Costumers". They've had passerby's that visit their site, and a way that they saw to make money is to advertise too them, that's really how the internet works.. So to say that they don't care about their costumers, this being their first real opportunity to prove themselves, is pretty fucked, right?

madgame23
madgame23

As soon as it was released every person knew that it was screwed up and was pushed out early.  Its been about 6 months and its still not fixed meaning that this was released about a year too early and should have been released October of 2014.  I wouldn't have minded since both Ghosts and Titanfall are massive letdowns in their own rights that waiting for a proper battlefield 4 would have been fantastic. 


Titanfall is the most basic game that lacks just about everything that a proper game should be released with, where are the private servers and stuff.  Ghosts was promised as a change of pace with other functions but still had everything that it said it wouldn't like server hosting and such.


Battlefield still has better potential than either of those game since its a much bigger game but I am getting tired of being hyped up and being let down on a regular basis or being told this and it being a lie in the long run.  Ill be sticking to the bargain bin from now on and stopping buying games new and such.  I think only XCOM Enemy Unknown and Within were the most recent games that I bought and got what I paid for and enjoyed every minute of playthrough.



Oh and lastly, Ill wait till price drops on the systems gets to the 350 range before I even give it a thought to buy the system.

jonnyboy696969
jonnyboy696969

I still don't get why the Canadians make a word out of a letter. I know America or even English isn't the center of the universe but still, no other letter I can think of off the top of my head is translated into essentially a word. It makes more sense for it to be Z. I don't see how their accent makes it necessary to say Zed. Gonna call a T a Ted?

MRSPIN12
MRSPIN12

Im tired of seeing dave and gamergirl before every video

UKFX
UKFX

Ahh, so that guy at Oddworld goes on about something me and thousands of others have been bashing on about for months and only then does GameSpot mention it. Instead prior to all this GameSpot were serving EA's bullshit PR about DICE "listening" to feedback. I still remember that ridiculous 8.5 you gave for a media review copy of BF4 guys. So much for reviewing what the public gets their hands on. Right?

Back to this BF4 debacle - If more was said earlier on and GameSpot and other mediocre game sites had continued to shovel negative publicity about it, then it'd be in a better condition now. Unfortunately the game has bled so many players on the PC platform that all of the other platforms besides Xbox One seem to be outdoing it. Peak at weekends is quite popular on PC, rivaling PS4, but to avoid stupid servers with stupid rules and avoid some horrid game modes, playing off peak on PC leaves such a embarrassingly low amount of games to choose from that most of the time it's a better option to just bugger off and play something else. A similar thing happened quite a while back with BFBC2's launch where masses of subscription based servers were abandoned or cancelled and the player numbers on PC dropped like a stone due to the monumental performance problems and bugs. Obviously since BF3 wasn't rushed and BF4 was, the copy & pasting that occured shows in BF4 because it contains bugs from BFBC2 that weren't present in BF3. I was asked for proof by Gustav Halling at DICE for the voice over bug whereby English V.Os do not function. I posted it but several months later my soldiers are still speaking Russian and Chinese.

Joke game. Sadly people forget too easily and you can almost guarantee that EA will make a ton from BF5 or whatever shitty game they come out with. They're probably already cashing in on their partnership with Respawn Entertainment and Titanfall. 

Are there any serious game related websites these days? Or is it simply all hispters with video cameras?

Go back to the format GS had about 5-7 years ago (or before that) and that is a better way of going about it. OH an this re-design you've wasted your time with makes finding older articles rather awkward.

Still awaiting that proper for BF4 GS... you know, the copy everyone else got?




YukoAsho
YukoAsho

.... THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS!?  That's more than most gaming PCs!

And... OF COURSE the secret GPU thing was false.  Don't you think MS would have opened it up if that were the case?  They've been humiliated by lower-performance versions of multi-plats for most of the year; they wouldn't just let that happen if the system had the capability to outperform the PS4 just for some silly promotion for DX12.

DGfishingtime
DGfishingtime

Definitely agree with him on BF4. Won't be getting BF5.

pierre2g
pierre2g

You Sony Fanboys are Hilarious!!!!! I have never seen soo much ignorance from uniformed gamers!!!  Microsoft is doing what it has always done carve their own lane, all you guys crying about $499 for a console were never the customer anyway! Check it out, Mecedes S class 100k, BMW 80K, Lexus 41K , tesla 97K, you dont see any customer going if MB takes out the LCD screen then i'll buy it, no they know their audience. I have XB1 and kinect is awesome for its application, i never have to change inputs on TV, i use my voice I'm the remote. All you non customers so vocal about Kinect, NSA blah blah blah, the kinect is awesome it allows you to use your xbox to play the games or workout, control your entertainment center, talk on Skype, etc, Its not designed to spy, if you are that concerned lose your cell phone cuz you have already been had, see Ed Snowden!! As long as your phone has a mic, no problem

My Final say is that the XBox is not the inferior system both systems have the same chip type PS4 has able 50% more GPU, for those who dont know that doesnt make the system superior. Its the guys who makes the software/games that can make it superior MS controls PC and XB gaming they are the gateway. If you havent heard of DirectX12 look it up, that allows the XB1 to do crazy things with its processors leaving room to push the possibilities, by putting the DX12 engine on PC and XB consoles, Sorry for Sony makes it super easy for developers to make games play on PC and XB1 with the same fps up to 4k not just 1080p, its already here with XB1 and PC and DirectX12= 4k gaming should developer choose so. Sony's lead is at its max 6M units in 52 countries!! MS in 13 with 3.6-9ish M units Only to launch this fall in 32 more places in the home countries native languages on XB1. Look at the play folks this marketing as strategy 101, ever wonder why 13 countries to start? I could say more but ingnorance bothers me when you dont know whats going on when its right in front of you!

trackles
trackles

Id rather get a gamestation.

pc_friendly
pc_friendly

BF4 is one of the games that I've barely got into because of how poor the performance was at launch. I was green from all the screen lag and crashes and basically just shelved it. I've played it for a total of less than four hours at this point. I've got enough other games to keep me busy while they fix the last of the bugs.


If Microsoft had a "secret GPU", they would have used it by now considering they've already overclocked their system in a desperate attempt to keep up with Sony. If anybody fell for that rumor, they should be ashamed.

MatthewSnyder86
MatthewSnyder86

Poor, DICE, I wish 2K owned DICE, and had rights to the Star Wars, Battlefield, Dead Space, and Mass Effect franchises.

bourne714
bourne714

You can do so on my twitter.......lol

Viktor737
Viktor737

Now that i've seen Jess-beauty, i can go sleep.

Hiliary
Hiliary

Shame on us for supporting these companies buying their unfinished games prematurely. 

ThAdEa82
ThAdEa82

Well, looks like my PC kicks the Xbone's A

leosdel
leosdel

And he is so right. They rather sell us little adjustments one by one and have us play 50 Battlefields than just give us the perfect Battlefield, Greed for money makes them stupid enough disrespect the intelligence of customers, forever.

ravenglass1
ravenglass1

You notice that it 's allway's Sony boy's that try to bash the Xbox, but that's because they have nothing to do or play

pidow
pidow

BF4 use to work, now it does not work altogether and I will not be supporting the series anymore period.

jdc6305
jdc6305

I'm sure if someone wanted a Xbox1 they don't need gamespot to tell them where to get it. They're practically everywhere unlike the PS4. How much is M$ paying to push this peice of shit? After what M$ tried to pull with the DRM I wouldn't take a X1 if it were given to me for free let alone pay $450 for one. 

blackace
blackace

So what PC gamer is guying that $3000 graphics card? lol!!

kalpesh_78
kalpesh_78

Every industry needs a black sheep. gaming has EA

coolguyhero
coolguyhero

I know EA is rated as little worst company but this not fare ,at least they are giving a better game than call of duty.call of duty same sh...it every year.

ptown58
ptown58

Delay is now good, though they usually come out buggy anyways.

TrueBloodish
TrueBloodish

@jonnyboy696969  It's probably because C and Z are pronounced almost the exact same way, when you don't say "zed". It helps avoid confusion and furthermore, then it's very common to pronounce consonants in a "word-like" way. Like H is pretty much pronounced "age", and K is pronounced "kay" and so on. Without mixing a vowel or two into the pronounciation of the letters, the alphabet would be filled with short, stumped noises.

And in the specific case with Z, an extra consonant is thrown into the pronounciation due to the way we say C, as earlier stated. And in your example with T, then that letter is already pronounced as the word "tea".

Vegeta-sama
Vegeta-sama

@YukoAsho  the problem is that there is hardware in that GPU that hasn't been shown and this is what is leading to a ton of the rumors... the thing does look like it's stacked... but no dGPU in there...

mrsec84
mrsec84

@pierre2g You're forgetting (or just don't know) that both consoles will use as much of their hardware as efficiently as possible.

The ICE team constantly updates PS4's API to get as close to the metal & optimize communication within the hardware.

For this reason PS4 would be just as efficient as Xbox One, maybe more because of the way it's set-up, having one large & fast pool of RAM, instead of 2 & more pipelines in the GPU.


PS4's doesn't just have 50% more GPU, it's GPU has 100% more ROPs, 50% more Texture Mapping Units & 50% more Stream Processors.

Even with the clock boost Xbox One's GPU is more than 50% weaker than PS4's.


It's RAM is 2.58X faster than Xbox One's DDR3 (176GB/s vs 68GB/s) & that GDDR5 is 256X larger than XBox One's eSRAM (8192MB vs 32MB), as far as RAM goes PS4 is more than 100% better than Xbox One's.

PS4 would have been in a better place if it had been made with 4GBs of 176GB/s GDDR5, but PS4 has 8GBs so that makes for an even better situation.


From a hardware POV PS4 is much faster, much more powerful, this is why right now a game like Metal Gear can run at more than twice the resolution (1920X1080 is 2.25 more demanding than 1280X720), with even more effects & at the same frame rate as Xbox One.


When you have a machine that's more powerful & just as if not more efficient than the competition's it's always going to outperform than competition where it counts.


PS4 is better built for higher resolutions, if anyone told you otherwise they lied.

Same goes for modern effects like Ray Tracing (which KZ already has).

PS4 also isn't at it's maximum sales, it sells more than Xbox One on a weekly basis.

The reality as far as sales goes MS launched in the regions where Xbox usually sells well & it's still not selling more in those areas than PS4 does.

Even without major games & the Xbox One (according to Xbots) supposedly having better software PS4 sells more units & more software than Xbox One in regions both are in.

bsford
bsford

@ThAdEa82  have fun sitting uncomfortably at your desk and having to spend more money by constantly having to upgrade hardware and drivers. I'll continue to sit on my couch and get basically the same/better expierence with my xbox one. 

RS13
RS13

@ravenglass1  Um... And it's always Xbox fanboys bashing the PS4.  And PC fanboys bashing consoles.  And Wii U fanboys bashing... wait.

safari421
safari421

@pidow very true. im done too this is too much. what a mess


crimsonmaskv1x
crimsonmaskv1x

@jdc6305  ur a idiot x1 is  isthe best titanfall is best game  to date I have ps4 and xbone and if I had to sell one it would be ps4 


rob9999991
rob9999991

@jdc6305 Wow, another lame Sony fanboy with nothing to play on his PS4, so he trolls online bashing the competition... What a great life you have.....yawn.

leblois
leblois

@blackace  It would be very stupid to do so. That card has designers and people that  work with 3d creation in mind. There would be so much unused power in that card in any game available, that if someone buys that for gaming is just to brag around...


GamezMk
GamezMk

@blackace  I can't wait to see someone build a Quad SLI Titan Z system, packed with 23040 Cores and 48GB of VRAM. Holy of all that is holy, that will be a sight.

slaughterdj
slaughterdj

@kalpesh_78 the unfortunate thing is EA actually churns out pretty awesome games, yet people only look at their business models and call them crap. Yeah their business ethics aren't great but if it keeps them pushing out high budget, awesome AAA games then they're alright in my book.

Proftally
Proftally

@bsford @ThAdEa82  


I have my pc connected to my 55 inch series 8 samsung LED tv, better still I use xbox controller for most of controller supported games on steam, not changed my card in 3 years and I still play on maxed out settings, plus I don't need to change consoles when say I feel like playing older games such as bioshock, mass effect, hell even as old as prince of persia sands of time.


have fun sitting uncomfortably at your couch thinking there are others out there who know their gaming better than you

MBirdy88
MBirdy88

@bsford @ThAdEa82  The Ignorance is strong in this one.


Better experience... lol titanfall performance is horrible on Xbox One.

GamezMk
GamezMk

@bsford @ThAdEa82  Have fun imagining whatever comfortable chair I'm actually using (because if you assume I'm spending that much money on hardware, you should also assume, correctly, that I am buying quality furniture and not spending hours sitting on a stool) or whether or not I'm at a desk or in my living room, and spending at least double the amount on games, ending up in a simply different plan of investment, yet the same in the end. 

Have fun with the over-expensive, useless hardware that is Xbox One and Kinect, unintuitive and poorly designed interface, continuous undelivered promises from Microsoft

And so on and so forth. 

I feel like we need something new. Peasants are not entertaining anymore.

safari421
safari421

@crimsonmaskv1x @jdc6305 sounds like a X1 fan boy pretending he has a PS4. i also have both and they both have pro's but a true gamer want a gaming system not a "all in one machine" i got a pvr i got a media center dont give a dam about NFL. i wanted a gaming machine and sony did that

Utnayan
Utnayan

@rob9999991 @jdc6305 I would say he is informed. It may go a long way just for Microsoft to admit they messed up huge not only in design, but completely missing the target on their market for the device. No one wants an all in one set up which still needs a paywall to access it's features, and they were trying to control the market with really haphazard DRM. Instead of fixing it, they try to convince everyone 720 Vs 1080p is a myth, which is just flat out insulting to anyone with a pulse. Overall, the games make the system, as well as stability. While I will say none of them have that yet (games) the service from MS on their cloud based platform is horrendous and even the Titanfall developers said as much. I would say it's time to go back to the drawing board, because rumor now has it they aren't even selling at $450 with a pack in "system seller".

ishsgames
ishsgames

@Proftally @bsford @ThAdEa82  i have a 27 inch QHD monitor, use a xbox controller, play emulated wii games, crysis 3 at ultra gen quality and haven't upgrade my GPU since 2012. Best of all, i sit on my soft comfy warm bed with a blanket as i play =p.

slaughterdj
slaughterdj

@Utnayan But DRM is perfectly fine on PC apparently...they never said 720p v 1080p is a myth, people just flat out refused to believe that Xbox can do 1080p, even though it can. It all began with CoD ghosts, when infinity ward got lazy and couldn't figure out the configuration, said f*** it, and shipped it in 720p.