i loved the premis of living in a small town, growing food and living a sim life, anything like this on xbox 360??? perhaps in the arcade or indie games section??? have some extra points i want to use up...

its been about 10 years, i would really like to know why this guy with all the money in the worldhas not thought of this...

In my opinion, most open world games that allow full map access straight away generally suck (Saints row 2, Just cause 2, Prototype) and the access to the entire map is given almost as a substitute to a good story or well laid out progression path.TroubleMaker411

i disagree. i thought Saints Row 2 was a Great sandbox game that allowed you to do MANY things right from the start, i loved it. and Just Cause 2 is Phenomenal...it may not have the greatest REPLAY value SP wise...but it is a great game. Spiderman 2-Web Of Shadows = Awesome. Prototype was Horrible, that game doesnt even Count...

if games had what you wanted, they would have the entire world open to travel from the start
right out of the box. maybe you don't know games, but that's how it should be from now on, sandbox or not. although it's an open world, you shouldnt be required to play the storyline just to access the entire map. if you could access everything right out of the box, the "shock" and "awe" moments in video games would become instant...which onlyincreases the value of the game while leaving asweet aspietaste in their mouth.Nexustras

my God man, its like you read my mind...

I don't have a problem playing a structured game if that's what I intended to buy. But if I buy a sandbox game, I want the freedom to do what I want anywhere in the box.El_Zo1212o

Oh man do I ever HATE that! (Just Cause 2 resolved this issue wonderfully by NOT DOING IT. 400sqkm of glorious FREE roaming.)El_Zo1212o

Biggest issue I have with sandbox games is texture pop-ins. Nothing worse than seeing foreground elements like trees and even buildings popping out from nowhere. Sacrifice you pay to have an open world.sgotskillz

Why should I ever see a "You lose" or "Game over" screen in a game!? I payed to have fun and win! I didn't pay to lose! I don't buy online games to lose matches! I bought that game to win every single game ever!DamianAlexander

In many sandbox games, the issue that you're referring to is probably used to ease you into the general flow of the game.hillelslovak

...is that you cant access Everything from the start of the game. now its not All sandbox games...but a decent number of them.

i think it all started waaayyy back with GTA3....you were given an island of the map...and when you went to cross the Bridge...it was ever so conveniently "Under Construction"...and it pissed me off :l because all i wanted to do was explore the other parts of the map...but NOOOOO...YOU CANT DO THAT. first, youv got to complete a series of boring and repetitive missions and THEN that bridge wont be under construction anymore :)

and this was also relevant in GTA4....where you couldnt even go across to Manhattan without having One Billion Cops and the Air Force swarm down on your position and cutt you to pieces with bullets. i go to Manhattan all the time...no one shoots at me :l only if i go to Harlem....

i mean its Sickening to me. im playing Need For Speed Carbon right now and i want to get to the 4th map, which is loosely based around Las Vegas....but in order for me to even get there, i have to do about 30 RACES and then do about 5 WAAYYY TOO TEDIUS AND BORING BOSS RACES just to get there....and its not that i cant Go There...its that theres an INVISIBLE WALL BLOCKING ME from driving there. im really considering selling the game because im really not going to sitt here and lose Over and Over againtrying to beat these Impossible Boss Matches just so i can get to something that should be Available to me from the JUMP.....

is there Anyone Else who absolutely HATES this????