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#1 ftothereaky
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Akala - Welcome to England Talib Kweli - Get By Snoop Dogg - Imagine Kanye West - Jesus Walks Dead Prez - Be Healthy ... and many more
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Religion is bull. Theism is somewhat understandable, but if there is a god, it doesn't care about us.
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#3 ftothereaky
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one of my main problems with rap (at least mainstream rap) is that I feel like the people "singing" and writing the music are Idiots...they can't spell or pronounce a single word correctly it's "da, dat, dis, boiz, dollaz" crap, I honestly feel like my IQ goes down when listening to that. Now that is not my opinion on all Hip Hop but just about all of the mainstream stuffFlameMe
Do you feel the same way about the pronunciation of words in other genres, such as Country (being a notable example) where their strong accents and use of slang could be considered equivalent to the accents and slang in Rap. Much lyrical prowess comes from being able to pronounce words in odd ways, so that they rhyme, and slang is language evolving.
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#4 ftothereaky
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It was only a matter of time. I remember reading this news on the Wii news channel. Rap was just a phase that lasted longer than expected. Forms of rock have been around since thhe 50's and its still going strong today. Rap is just a phase and now its finally dying out. Amen.eXor512
Rap is a progression of traditional African music, and was brought over to the Americas with slavery. I highly doubt it's going anywhere.
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#5 ftothereaky
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thats because there has not been a good album in about 5 years, all there is not is hip-pop and crunk bs, this fall rap should get back on track when Dre releases his new album g-unit248
Both of Kanye West's albums were released in the last 5 years, for example. Each to his own, of course, but I'd personally say they are great.
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#6 ftothereaky
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[QUOTE="dhyce"]

[QUOTE="Comorat"] I'm 31 years old, I was around for rap to be "born". Yes, I've managed to listen to a song or two. It's crap. I'd rate country music higher than rap on a social scale and most country music is for inbred hicks that drive pickups and sleep with thier sisters. Rap music has managed to embody every single bad stereotype in the world right now and has managed to take every "evil" rock and roll suppsedly had in the 80's and make it a confirmed reality. Oh there's exceptions to teh rule, but the vast majority of rap is baseless, ghetto BS spouted off by a bunch of wannabe posers that never had a hard day in thier life.Comorat

While I dislike the mainstream played out gangster style Rap you're describing, you must take into account that there are many Rappers/Hip Hop bands that don't talk about that kind of stuff, who also use instruments and are very capable artists. To generalize after you've heard a song or two is precisely the problem with people, judging a book by it's cover; whether it's a genre of music; or a different race of people. You really shouldn't judge something until you know more about it, food for thought, hun.

And your statement about Country music is almost hilariously incorrect.

Well let's just see a list of "good" rap then shall we? Better yet google up your favorite rap song, one that really moves you and speaks to your heart without it endorcing some sort fo negative stereo-type and I'll acknoledge said song as music. Cause' I can damn sure google up a good dozen that do the opposite.

Most Kanye West songs. Most A Tribe Called Quest songs. Almost every Talib Kweli song. Most Mos Def songs. A fair few of the early (pre popular G-funk) Tupac songs. Every Dead Prez song (though some could be constrewed as racist, though as a white person myself I don't have a problem with them). Many Eminem songs. Some Akala songs (this guy's UK hip-hop, so maybe you don't know him). A few DMX songs. A few Common songs. Quite a few of the recent Jay-Z songs, and a few of the earlier ones. Almost every Public Enemy song. A few Xzibit songs. Now, these are only the ones that I listen to regularly. You could easily get lots more. Ask me for specific examples, if you want.
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[QUOTE="ProudLarry"][QUOTE="ftothereaky"]There is a semi-convincing argument for Theism (ie, that there is a god of some sort). The universe is so improbable, that theism is one of the more convincing arguments for it's creation. However, there is no convincing argument for Religion. If there is a God, it does not care about us, it is not "all-loving", and it doesn't take any special interest in Humans.

The problem with your reasoning is that you're falling back on the assertion that if observation, thought, and reasoning can't explain something at the present time, then that means that there has to be a higher power who created it. That's not any different then when the ancient Greeks saw lighting, didn't understand it, and just said that it was Zeus throwing lighting bolts from the heavens. And obviously we know that that is not true. So I don't think even that is a "semi-convincing" argument.

Ah, I was merely stating that it is currently logical to be a theist, for that reason. I myself am an athiest, and some of the other more convincing arguments appeal to me, for example, coincidence is not impossible, and it's not an unsatisfying explanation for me. A multiverse is also a distinct possibility.
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#8 ftothereaky
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="Trashface"] The spahgetti monster analogy is stupid and silly. Whenever you have numerous ancient documents written by generations of historians and theologians dealing with a Spahgetti monster, then come back with it. Whenever a Spaghetti monster has such an extensive and embedded history in world culture, come back with it. As of now, it's an incredibly stupid analogy. TSCombo
no, it isn't. it is the same base theory. it's just that the modern faiths have had a much longer time to develop. and therefore, you would have more documents. exactly like UFOs. people didn't believe in them until about the 30s, but now there's a massive controversy, on some odd objects in the sky.

No, Trashface is correct. Religion, Christianity specifically is immersed in human history, and the teachings on human behavior are timeless because it taps into the human condition which never changes. I know it's simple to dismiss "religion" and say some guys, just said, "lets make up stories about how we got here and morals and then all become martyrs for them." You can believe the spahgetti monster if you want, it's hardly the same.

Christianity, and all the other religions are perhaps culturally significant, but it's no conincidence that each religion incorporates parts of those before it, in the way that the Torah, Bible and Qu'ran are all very similar, how Christianity incorporates lots of romanic elements in it, which in turn was basically a carbon-copy of the ancient Greek religion. This is in stark contrast to each religion claiming itself to be "The Word of God", when all they are doing is changing an established formula.
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#9 ftothereaky
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There is a semi-convincing argument for Theism (ie, that there is a god of some sort). The universe is so improbable, that theism is one of the more convincing arguments for it's creation. However, there is no convincing argument for Religion. If there is a God, it does not care about us, it is not "all-loving", and it doesn't take any special interest in Humans.