TF2 hands down. I've never tried the pc version but I think its fine on the 360, I find lots of people playing, I played an awsome dustbowl match last night.

L4D is awsome I have it for 360 too, but tf2 is just amazing, so how about those update valve =D

says I can't run, i didn't see tf2 so I choose HL2 - Orange Box

I don't trust it tho games like FEAR and LOTRO say they wouldn't run on that site but they ran med/high

ok so I'm planning on getting tf2 tommorow but I'm not sure, I have an integrated intel gpu w/ 128mb vram, 1Gb ram and a p4 @ 3.00GHz w/ hypertreading.

I just want to know if it will run in all low at an ok framerate. I'll be getting a new comp late feb/early march so this pc is temperary.

thanks

Try an inspiron w/ quad core and 4g ram the buy your own video card and maybe a new psu.

or xps if you not trying to save cash but dell > alienware

same company diffrent pcs

sounds like you don't have much RL friends, same list of friend you say....who cares. Also its kinda SAD

you met guys on home and had fun bowling bravo get real friends

ok so I'm running the left 4 dead demo at all low settings and res. and I get a horrible framerate...like a slideshow =P

anyway my specs are 1Gb ram, 3.00GHz p4 and a 128mb on-board chip. 

my cpu is the min for l4d and the ram and the gpu =P so I'm just looking for some better preformance and better visuals. If I were to just update my vid card to say a 8600 or a high end 7 series card would i notice better preformance? 

I do plan on building a pc for the first time some time in 09. 

Thanks pc hardware happy zombie killing =D