[QUOTE="Greyfeld"][QUOTE="majadamus"] [QUOTE="mantorman"]Furthermore, modern JRPGs are just an attempt to do something (slightly) original to attract OUR attention, while at the same time catering to a Japanese market that wants the same thing over and over.calvinsora
This is why JRPGs are losing steam. Because on one side of the fence, you have all the gamers that think JRPGs need to evolve. Then on the other side, you have all the gamers that think they need to stay the same. One side wants JRPGs to turn into WRPGs, and the other side just wants more rehashes of the same old turn-based systems from the PS1 and SNES era. They can't freakin win for losing, despite the great titles that are still being put out on the market. For the record, if you want to talk about great JRPGs, look no further than Valkyria Chronicles. Fantastic game, and should be played by anybody who's a fan of the genre.You mean "This is why I think JRPGs are losing steam"? Personally, I think JRPGs are picking up, and have always been strong as well. I personally think they're doing a better job than WRPGs, though that's just me. But if I state how I think JRPGs should be, I feel there is room for change (FFXIII does, actually, change a lot of factors), but if JRPGs get more like WRPGs, they would lose a fan right then and there. I think innovation is an overstated thing nowadays, and some are incredibly dual-sided on this matter. FPSs have barely come with anything new to the table (Bioshock did, but many hate that game with a passion), and there's the same battle between those wanting change and those wanting the same rehash inalmost every genre (shooters, check, fighters, check, music genre, check). No genre is really failing right now as a fact, it's just opinion. And let's stick with that, please.
I agree, JRPG's are picking up, and may be the most experimental genre now, they are trying to find a new formula which works for the new generation of consoles and are doing well so far in my opinion; Valkyria chronicles is a great example of this. And if the genre does turn into a more WRPG affair like Demon's Souls then I will quickly lose interest. Seeing as nearly every genre has been bashed in this thread, it makes me wonder whether it might be time for a genre? Similar to maybe what Microsoft are doing with Natal, but more an innovation of gameplay than hardware. In my opinion at the moment the weakest genre has to be the rhythm-based music games, followed by western RPG's (though I haven't played DA:O which may change my mind). All the other genres to me actually look pretty promising.
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