I'm shocked, here I thought as soon as they finalise a console they immediately shut down R & D departments and fire everyone.

That looks cool and all, but if the level design isn't creative enough it'll get old really really fast, like echochrome

@SuperTimeLord All of which aren't real, cost nothing to make and need testing in the beta anyway!

They're literally offering people the option to 'pay to win' the raffle for beta access. Whatever scum sucking parasite (READ: publisher employee) that forced that in there should be ashamed of themselves.

Pay to be a beta tester of a free to play game? I thought "On Disc DLC" was scummy but this is a new low for the industry

@Auronvolgar Exactly. From the guy selling it, saying "it's going to be reasonable" is right up there with "we have nothing to announce at this time"

Oh he said it would be reasonable, well that's ok then. I'm sure if was going to be over priced he'd tell us first right, I mean it's not as if it's the market that decides if the cost is reasonable or not

@Sefrix You mean the Windows machines the games are made on?

I don't want consoles to go away, I like having dedicated gaming boxes, but given I've been able to enjoy 1080p (+) resolutions and silky smooth graphics on a PC for years I don't really see how a console is ever "better results" sure they can squeeze an awful lot more performance out of the older hardware, but my PC isn't hardware restricted. I can upgrade anytime and like I said ANY GPU that a console is going to be built on will already be on sale to PC owners long before the console it's in is released.

Console tech will NEVER be higher grade than what's available to PC owners, and that's mainly because people that are really into PC gaming can (and often do) spend more than the price of an entire console just on a monster GPU.

@blackace 2-3 years ahead of PC? You realise console manufacturers aren't from the future and have to make do with tech that actually exists, then they have to build a console around it. Any console will always be a minimum of about 2 years behind top of the line GPUs availble to PC owners

This is the same company that last week said it would be £200 and released in July. I'm sure they'll forgive you for thinking "Well now, since none of this info is released, you've blatantly just made this up amazon"

@burgo81 Yeah right

5 Top Selling Wii Games that weren't free giveaways:

Mario Kart Wii (32 Million)

Wii Play (28 Million)

NSMBWii (25 Million)

Wii Fit (22.71 Million)

Wii Fit Plus (20.55 Million)

5 Top Selling 360 Games that weren't free giveaways:

CoD:MW3 (14.14 Million)

CoD:BO (13.36 Million)

CoD:MW2 (12.79 Million)

Halo 3 (11.53 Million)

GTA 4 (9.66 Million)

5 Top Selling PS3 Games that weren't free giveaways:

CoD:MW3 (11.97 Million)

CoD:BO (11.36 Million)

CoD:MW2 (9.94 Million)

Gran Turismo 5 (7.64 Million)

CoD4:MW (6.12 Million)

Say what you like about the Wii, but at least it has a variety of games. Any console that doesn't have CoD making up 3 of their top 5 games is fine by me