.....The show is done. You don't go back & rewrite a new ending. Even if they did i still wouldn't care because i know it was never the writers true, or intended ending. A fake ending, a made for the fans ending doesn't do anything for me. I want the true intended ending, good or bad.

I have the same feelings for ME3. It was a great ride.

brucecambell

did anyone read my post at the bottom of pg 4???

you say you want the "intended ending" do you mean the ending that the writers intended? what if a diffrent writer wrote the ending we got?

Read this aritical below please

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/5695/article/mass-effect-3-writer-allegedly-slams-controversial-ending/

If you read the above article, you learned that one writer and a glorified producer wrote the entireend mission alone in an office, without consulting the people that wrote the rest of the mass effect series. That is why it is filled with plot holes. That is why it makes no sense in the context of the other games.

art or not art this wasn't the intended ending

People seem dead set that if an artist created a ting that artist should not have to change it. Ok

By artist I assume everyone is talking about the many artists that helped create mass effect. You are talking about many writers, game designers, modellers, texture artists working together. Together they made mass effect 3. But what if that artistic team didn't work on the ending? What if the end was written without the writers?

… proof is in the pudding as they say. A writer from mass effect 3 alegedly posted to penny arcade around the time mass effect 3 was released.

Read this aritical below please

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/5695/article/mass-effect-3-writer-allegedly-slams-controversial-ending/

If you read the above article, you learned that one writer and a glorified producer wrote the entireend mission alone in an officewithout consulting the people that wrote the rest of the mass effect series. That is why it is filled with plot holes. That is why it makes no sense in the context of the other games.

Do I believe that this post by the bio-ware writer is real? Yes, if you look around on the internet the general consensus is that it was him. People are trying to save his job by casting doubt. if you think that this post by a bio-ware insider is fake fine--- but answer me this:

is the ending art? Is it art if it was written by one man without the input of his trained writers? Is it art if budget cuts mean that only one cinematic with three different colors is made when many were planned? is it art when it isn't created by the artists that made it art? is it art if it's audence is insulted?

I say it is art. Albeit unfinished.

Mass effect 3 is a sculpture half done, the head is still un-carved and trapped in a bolder.

i look forward to free ending dlc

"Now that they're changing the ending it's less art and more fart."
good use of alliteration there...

A building is a piece of art, architects are artists. In their art an architect needs to balance form and function. Everyone on this forum is likely in a house or apartment that was built 99% for function. You need to live in your house, so being able to live in it is more important than it looking neat or perching it on the edge of a cliff. The best buildings, (anything built by frank Lloyd write for instance look him up) is 100% functional and at the same time designed 100% with form in mind. Architecture is art when you are standing in an office building that looks beautiful because it has achieved both beauty and delivered on a promise of usefulness.

Video games are the same. Form (the **** story, textures), and function (made to entertain audiences, be a game) mixed together. If you focus to much on form and forget about function it isn't a video game it is a slide show. If you focus on function and forget about form (eve online anyone?) you get a game with no soul. The best video games go 100% in both directions, they create a product that happens to be a piece of art.

The mass effect series mixed form and function well. We as gamers played a game and in doing so we experience the beauty of it. The ending of mass effect 3 threw out function in favour of form and it sucked.

Forgive me, I like metaphors. And I ramble

If I tear down the wall in my kitchen to build a kitchen that looks nicer and works better. does that make my changed house. "less of a house and more of a fart?"

In short no,

About this whole "video games are art" argument i have a thing or two to say. i have been reading alot of hate from game reveiwers on the fact that bioware is remakeing the end of mass effect 3. on the basis that doing so corrupts art.

I am a stage actor and in my experience art is a product of hard work dedication and the utilisation of feedback. Art doesn't exist in a vacuum. take the audience away from a play and it loses all of its art. it doesn't matter how beautiful the acting is, how excellent the sets are, how poignant the story is... forget for a moment that the play is for an audience and all that work stops being art and becomes a waste of time. who cares about a play that runs for one week and is forgotten, only bad plays are forgotten: a forrgotten play=a bad play= bad art --> becuase that play faild in the one place that art shouldn't fail. its ability to absorb its audence.

Michael Angelo didn't want to paint the Sistine Chapel but the pope forced him to and now that chapel is one of the most breathtaking pieces of art in the world, it is no less artful that the artist was forced into his work or that Michael Angelo painted his masterpiece over top of the work of another artist. In theatre a play, a piece of art is the work of dozens of people (much like video games) a poor director can ruin the work of dozens of other artists, a bad actor can cheapen an entire ensemble and when that happens and the audiences stop showing up to buy tickets that play disappears forever into the void... or the ensemble changes their director, fires the bad actor, cuts a scene that isn't working.

it doesn't cheapen my art to learn that i didn't play Shylock well in the last performance, it enhances it. because i have the opportunity to change my preformance, to grow as an artist, to get better; and if i get better the play gets better and the art that my ensemble has slaved for months over becomes more whole, more pure and that is beautiful.

argue for change in the mass effect 3 ending or don't, seek perfection in art or settle for what you have already sold. whatever happens the ending we have is awful. the ending cheapens the art of many dozens of talented people. maybe the end is the best art that a particular writer could manage, that mass effect 3 ends with a good honest try for excellence. as an actor i audition every week, i work on my art every day, i try my hardest all the time to get work let alone preform my art. hundreds of people try very hard and do the best they can. but more often then not i am not hired. 10 actors out of 100 might be hired and all the trying in the world means nothing for those that arn't working. i cant walk onto a stage or into an audition and say to the audience (i am going to try really hard to act well), i have to go out and act well, period, if not i get fired or the audence stops comeing and the art dies if no one sees it. trying hard means nothing if you don't actually preform excellence, if someone else can preform better. the end of mass effect 3 might be a piece of art, i think at least the writer tryed really hard, but i know that given the opportunity hundreds of people could have created a better ending, and based on the rest of the mass effect franchise i know that at least 50 of them work at Bio-ware. as it is bioware is loseing the audence for its game, if no one plays, it dosn't matter how artistic the end is.

a good performance artist can defend their art, even if that art is the most bizar thing imaginable. Vangoh defended his misunderstood art to a world that hated him and it, he could explain what he had done and why and that is what made him an artist. That is an integral part of art, the defence of it's existence to its critics while learning from those same critics... Bio-Ware isn't defending itself, it is back peddling. perhaps they don't know how to defend what they have made. That is a sign of the absence of artistic conscience. without artistic conciseness how can you have art. Vangoh painted traditional portraits when he needed money to feed himself, he never defended the artistic value of those paintings. the ending of mass effect 3 as it stands is just a poorly exicuted paint by numbers. i don't see the art.

i look forward to free ending dlc