[QUOTE="espoac"]True, it hasn't and never will live up to those expectations. But should the fact that multi-billion dollar corporations lie(duh!) make you miss out on its exclusives? No! Get over it. It's a more than competent system. Appreciate it for what it is and don't be down it because of some impossible hype you should've never bought into. If you can get past that you'll see it for what it is, the cheapest blu-ray player on the market with some amazing exclusive games in the lineup and plenty of features to boot.Ninja-Vox

Is that not exactly what i said? That it's an awesome system and its a shame people were disappointed thanks to the hype? Honestly, 90% of the people who've replied with any retort haven't actually read the post, i swear.

they never do read the post unfortunately...they just see an inkling of there system being put down and they try to counter with whatever they can think of

see the HDMI times 2 ...sound like a promise to me...

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]Enjoy your console with no games. :Dkungfuchaos

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="-CMG-"]

You are lying.......You just bought the console - Why would you call M$ instead of just going back to the store and exchanging it if it was a couple of days old.

This thread is BS or your not to bright.

SpruceCaboose

unless you buy the store warranty which seems pointless now that ms offers a 3 year warranty on 360 stores won't accept consoles back once they have been opened.

I know of no major store where you cannot exchange a system for another if there is a defect. And his was *supposedly* bought at Wal-Mart. They most definitely have an exchange policy for defective items.

every store in America has a 30 or 90 return policy...he could have swapped it out for another 360 if he had chose to

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]

lol at this post :lol:, from where u got that from? Epic is using 30% or 40% of the xbox360 power, the only thing that they maxed out was the ram on the xbox360 they used 100% of the memory.
fuzzysquash

do you have sources for this info?

again this was the only thing ever said

Having worked on Xbox 360, from a technology standpoint, how much more do you think the system can be pushed with future games?

I think there's plenty of room to push and experiment when it comes to physics and AI and real-time lighting. I think we've only scratched the surface of what we can do with gameplay as well as the 360. There's far more potential down the road to do more stuff. As amazing as I think Gears is, and my gut tells me I still love playing it, I think we have a really incredible experience; I think we'll definitely push it further if we get around to dong a new version in the future. - Cliffy B

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=85688

they wrote the UN3 engine to run on PC's mostly they can port it to consoles "relatively easily" they can do alot of optimization to get it to run better on 360...there is always room to do more you can work years on optimizing an engine to run on a particular system...

here what the publisher says: we gave you X amount of dollars to make this game is it done enough to put on store shelves and be good enough to sell copies so we can make money back on our investment

some devs have more leeway then others the its done when its done crowd - but a game is never done there is always things that are improved thats why there are patches

does the game have bugs (major enough to f stuff up)? does it run at avg > 30fps (or 60 depending)? ...ship it

Your answer is confusing to me. Are you saying that it is, or it is NOT twice as powerful as X360?supertank310

in float point calculations it is...in general processing I give the edge slightly to the 360 because it has 3 VMX128 unit's (as opposed to the Cell's 1) the 360 also has semetrical mutli threading...which is much easier to program for then the asymetric Cell

with out getting too far into the technical jargon which is hard to do because thats really how to explain the differences...

I am sayingis the Cell is a powerful processor but is not nessicarily powerful for gaming applications...plus there are very few tools for it...I don't know if its twice as powerful but its deffinately powerful but its all for not if you can only tap half of what it is theoretically capable of...when I see a game that is far and away better than a 360 game then we can say for sure it is...its hard to say because the RSX is not anymore powerful than the Xeno (less IMO) so the Cell will have to shine in other things likeAI, physics, destructable enviroments...thing where it can show its muscle as a CPU

I stop belive Sony workers or devs, how can you guys still belive all that crap b***s*** that is been said about the cell?!

Last gen we all knew that xbox was more powerfull than PS2 and it proved to be more on every multiplatform game.

Sony showed graphs on E3-05 saying that the Cell is twice powerfull x360 processor but we all know that this is not what is happening on multiplatform games.

the only true thing that sony said about the PS3 is that the blue-ray hold more space than DVD.

GastaS

well for one most of the multiplats were coded for the 360 then ported...

but if one of the best PS3 dev's are only managing to get 30% of the power out of the Cell...even though it is technically twice as powerful if you can only harness 30% of it there is you answer right there

[QUOTE="Warrior_Poet"]

wouldyou mind linking it I save my address bar for essential things only...thx in adv

Newnab

Done.

thx I am perfectly fine with the graphics currently thx for the link cool pics...the chopper2 pic is esp cool where it is crashing into the warthog

You n00blets are still trying to compare Killzone to Killzone 2? :lol: wow thats pretty lamewhitetiger3521

Killzone 1 and Shell Shock Nam '67

vs.

Halo 1-2 and Marathon

yes KZ2 has a huge budget and a better DEV platform but you still have to look at passed games as well