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#1  Edited By UssjTrunks
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@emgesp said:
@davillain- said:
@emgesp said:

So stating a fact is shite-ass posting? I've seen tons of hardcore PC gamers admit that PS4 has put out some incredibly looking games, especially for the specs it has. You'd have to be delusional to not admit that. PC will always have the advantage of running multiplats with better resolution/frame rate, but they lack AAA exclusives that take advantage of top of the line hardware.

And what the hell agenda are you talking about?

If you really want to go their, most PC gamers like myself don't care about PS5 specs, we just wanna know what the new exclusive games will offer. And let it be know PC does have AAA games, and yes, they may not be mainstream compare to Sony/MS/Nintendo, but PC does have it's fair share of AAA games unless you know the concept to where to look at.

PC=everything else, PS4/Nintendo Switch=exclusive games. In short, I'm not interest knowing what PS5 specs will have, just tell me the exclusive games you will have is what I'm looking for. Any PC gamer will know consoles will never reach PC specs cause these console makers want to keep the price as low as $500.

IDK, to me AAA exclusives tends to mean pushing hardware to a certain degree. I rarely ever see AAA PC games that actually push hardware, especially top of the line hardware.

PC right now has hardware available that is a full generation ahead of base PS4, yet no PC game looks a generation better.

That's because all big budget games are multiplatform. There will never be a big budget PC exclusive because PC gaming is such a niche market.

And even though you don't get graphics that are a generation ahead, you get much better looking games.

60+ FPS @ 4K or 144+ FPS @ 1080p/1440p with all settings maxed out is a vastly superior experience to anything on consoles.

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#2  Edited By UssjTrunks
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@emgesp said:
@jasonofa36 said:

@emgesp: So lemme get this straight. You think Sony would release a console with a 3rd gen Ryzen, with the latest Navi architecture, at least 16gb of ram and 1tb SSD storage that will support ray-tracing(this is stupid cos even GTX 5xx of the old can support ray-tracing), and they are packed into a tiny little piece of plastic to be priced at below 500 USD?

Bahahaha, thanks for the laugh.

Nobody said the SSD will be 1TB. There will most likely be a standard HDD as well. Don't use off the shelf PC part consumer prices as a guide. Sony gets massive discounts with their semi custom chips and other parts. Ray tracing on those older cards perform extremely poorly.

Ray tracing performs poorly even on an RTX 2080TI. The technology is nowhere near functional yet. AMD doesn't even have RT compatible cards on the market yet. We're at least two GPU generations away from it running smoothly. The 2080TI can only hit 30 FPS at 4K with a handful of highly optimized games.

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@son-goku7523 said:
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I don't know why some PC dudes are in here doing some damage control. This shit happens every gen, a new console releases or is announced with impressive specs and then the year it launches or shortly later AMD and Nvidia release cards and hardware that blow it away. The PS5's specs are impressive right now but they won't be mindblowing in 2020 when AMD and Nvidia have their next-gen cards out. It's why I usually time my PC upgrades around when new consoles launch to get the best bang for my buck.

Sony and MS are able to announce impressive console specs because they have access to hardware at a cheaper price than what we as consumers have access to right now due to their closing partnership with AMD, and the fact they buy stuff in bulk. PC gamers shouldn't be feeling a bit insecure now, leave the insecurity to lems who bought an X in 2017 and are now wondering where to go from now after hyping their 6tflop console that's about to be blown away. PCs will always reign supreme when it comes to power.

What happens every gen:

Console peasants: "New console has the processing power of a $20,000 machine learning data centre yet only costs $500"

PC master race: "You're dumb"

^ ^ Exhibit A: Another butthurt PC fanboy.

Mark Cerny hasn't announced the processing power of the PS5, he only announced the specs and some of its capabilities. Careful, your insecurity is really showing.

It feels so good to have disposable income where I can buy any console I want and maintain a nice gaming PC so I don't need to be on here getting mad any time new console specs are announced.

Nobody is butthurt. PCMR just like to keep the peasants educated since we know you aren't tech literate. We understand how hardware works and would like to disseminate that knowledge to the uninformed.

The same thing happens every generation. Console manufacturers make lavish claims about how they've found a way to "unlock" the true potential of whatever $150 GPU they've decided to go with that will allow them to get 12x the performance of the current $1000 flagship card from Nvidia. Then the console comes out and everyone realizes they were duped.

We're just doing you a favour by tempering expectations.

The fact you use terms like "PCMR" and "peasant" shows how insecure you actually are.

I've been a PC gamer since 1991, I own several PCs and have built PCs since the late 90s. My whole life has been surrounded with PCs since my dad himself was a PC gamer and tech junkie and introduced me to PC gaming at an early age. At the same time though I enjoy playing on consoles because I'm a gamer and don't believe in holding myself back. I see a system I like with quality games and I buy it. I don't believe in this stupid fabricated world you fanboys live in where people are separated into factions for preferring PC over consoles or vice versa. I acknowledge the strengths and weaknesses of console and PC gaming because I love both platforms and don't feel the need to fanboy for them or hide their supposed weaknesses. I'm a gamer through and through, neither a "PCMR" ambassador nor a "console peasant". You aren't tempering any expectations because Mark Cerny hasn't given us anything to expect, he just announced the PS5 specs and you're damage controlling because you probably feel like they are a threat to your gaming rig. Consoles will never be a threat to a truly secure PC gamer because he/she can always upgrade their PC to be better than whatever the consoles have cooked up. By coming into this thread and damage controlling as a way of "tempering expectations" you're only showing how insecure and butthurt you are. I'm a PC gamer and I don't view the PS5 as a threat at all to my PC and so I totally embrace it and welcome the birth of a new console generation as it will free us PC gamers from the shackles of current gen weak console hardware.

He didn't release any specs. Just said that it would be an AMD CPU and GPU (probably an APU to cut costs) and that it would support 8k (lol).

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#4  Edited By UssjTrunks
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@son-goku7523 said:
@UssjTrunks said:
@son-goku7523 said:

I don't know why some PC dudes are in here doing some damage control. This shit happens every gen, a new console releases or is announced with impressive specs and then the year it launches or shortly later AMD and Nvidia release cards and hardware that blow it away. The PS5's specs are impressive right now but they won't be mindblowing in 2020 when AMD and Nvidia have their next-gen cards out. It's why I usually time my PC upgrades around when new consoles launch to get the best bang for my buck.

Sony and MS are able to announce impressive console specs because they have access to hardware at a cheaper price than what we as consumers have access to right now due to their closing partnership with AMD, and the fact they buy stuff in bulk. PC gamers shouldn't be feeling a bit insecure now, leave the insecurity to lems who bought an X in 2017 and are now wondering where to go from now after hyping their 6tflop console that's about to be blown away. PCs will always reign supreme when it comes to power.

What happens every gen:

Console peasants: "New console has the processing power of a $20,000 machine learning data centre yet only costs $500"

PC master race: "You're dumb"

^ ^ Exhibit A: Another butthurt PC fanboy.

Mark Cerny hasn't announced the processing power of the PS5, he only announced the specs and some of its capabilities. Careful, your insecurity is really showing.

It feels so good to have disposable income where I can buy any console I want and maintain a nice gaming PC so I don't need to be on here getting mad any time new console specs are announced.

Nobody is butthurt. PCMR just like to keep the peasants educated since we know you aren't tech literate. We understand how hardware works and would like to disseminate that knowledge to the uninformed.

The same thing happens every generation. Console manufacturers make lavish claims about how they've found a way to "unlock" the true potential of whatever $150 GPU they've decided to go with that will allow them to get 12x the performance of the current $1000 flagship card from Nvidia. Then the console comes out and everyone realizes they were duped.

We're just doing you a favour by tempering expectations.

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Nobody in the first world pirates on PC anymore. Steam (and other stores to stay competitive) give AAA games away for pennies now.

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@son-goku7523 said:

I don't know why some PC dudes are in here doing some damage control. This shit happens every gen, a new console releases or is announced with impressive specs and then the year it launches or shortly later AMD and Nvidia release cards and hardware that blow it away. The PS5's specs are impressive right now but they won't be mindblowing in 2020 when AMD and Nvidia have their next-gen cards out. It's why I usually time my PC upgrades around when new consoles launch to get the best bang for my buck.

Sony and MS are able to announce impressive console specs because they have access to hardware at a cheaper price than what we as consumers have access to right now due to their closing partnership with AMD, and the fact they buy stuff in bulk. PC gamers shouldn't be feeling a bit insecure now, leave the insecurity to lems who bought an X in 2017 and are now wondering where to go from now after hyping their 6tflop console that's about to be blown away. PCs will always reign supreme when it comes to power.

What happens every gen:

Console peasants: "New console has the processing power of a $20,000 machine learning data centre yet only costs $500"

PC master race: "You're dumb"

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#7  Edited By UssjTrunks
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@davillain- said:

I see all the PC gamers with their radical specs here are getting worried, they are shaking in their boots XD

Nobody is worried. It's running on a low-end Navi + Zen 2 APU. Consoles don't use magical hardware. They use the same hardware that is available to everyone else.

We're just putting things into perspective since console plebs don't understand how hardware works.

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#8  Edited By UssjTrunks
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
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My predictions:

Backwards compatible: No

8k: Nope

raytracing support: No, or on an insanely basic level

SSD standard: Nope

You're calling the guy developing the console a liar?

Yeah anyone claiming 8K for next gen consoles is obviously a liar.

How much do you think a PC with 8K, ray tracing support and SSD costs?

It doesn't even exist.

The 2080 TI can barely run games at 4K with no ray tracing. A stable 60 fps with RT is really only possible at 1080p right now, and maybe 1440p for a few games.

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#9  Edited By UssjTrunks
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8K displays aren't even out. 4K isn't even the standard yet (the RTX 2080 TI can barely run games in 4K at a respectable frame rate). This is just marketing nonsense. Or the console is coming out in a decade.

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None of the above. 30 fps slide shows can't vie for graphics king, sorry.