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#1  Edited By UnnDunn
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@mysticaldonut said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

I'll speak as a consumer first, and I'll bash it as a fanboy in later posts. I'll talk about the highest tier first, because that's the most interesting one.

There's some good news, in that its offering many of the same features as gpu, which includes access to many games from older libraries and some of these previous gen games are even downloadable. They are also following the gamepass model for 3rd party games. Many newer games will probably release on their service after a period of time.

The biggest drawbacks are 2 things. The first is that the price is $3 more per month than gpu. The second is that no day and date for new games on the service. Sony will likely play a balancing game, wait as long as they can to maximize sales before announcing a release on their service, or maybe some games won't be released on their service at all.

I'd like to point out that MS is probably a bigger first party publisher with more studios than sony is and the games that will release on gpu are on a really high level.

There is one piece of bad news for gpu subscribers. Sonys model is more expensive and offers less. This is pretty much a signal to MS to raise the price at some point.

GamePass Ultimate is $14.99 a month, so $180 a year. But that does include PC as well.

I've had GamePass since last August (because I could get it for $1) and it is definitely not tons of high quality games. It's mostly games that couldn't sell well for $60, like Halo Infinite and Back 4 Blood. If people had bought those for full price a lot of people would have felt ripped off and the overall player count would be much much lower than it was thanks to GP.

Notice how all the mediocre Gears of War and Halo titles are on GP but they don't have all the Forza titles which are arguably mostly great- because they still think they can get people to outright buy those at the end of the day.

Tunic is probably my favorite day one GP game but its only a small indie title.

What do you mean "they don't have all the Forza titles"? You mean they don't have Forza titles that were delisted for licensing reasons? Because every Forza you can still buy digitally is on Game Pass. Admittedly that's only Forza Horizon 4 and 5 right now. Blame Microsoft for signing crappy 3-year licensing deals with the carmakers. Every game in the history of the franchise only remained on sale for 3 years.

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@Pedro said:
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Nope. No game for you unless you want to wait six months. 😝

Forget "day 1" releases, it'll be "day -180" releases. No God of War Ragnarok or Starfield for you unless you pony up that sweet, sweet subscription cash.

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#3  Edited By UnnDunn
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@Pedro said:
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Personally, I can't wait for the "exclusive wars" for third party games shifting to these subscriptions.

"Grand Theft Auto V Legendary Edition, coming exclusively to PlayStation Plus Premium, December 2024".

"No Man's Sky Ultimate Edition now available only on Xbox Game Pass Ultimate."

It'll be fun to watch. 😁

Sounds terrible. Now of this is in conjunction with being available through normal means then, I am fine.

Nope. No game for you unless you want to wait six months. 😝

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Personally, I can't wait for the "exclusive wars" for third party games shifting to these subscriptions.

"Grand Theft Auto V Legendary Edition, coming exclusively to PlayStation Plus Premium, December 2024".

"No Man's Sky Ultimate Edition now available only on Xbox Game Pass Ultimate."

It'll be fun to watch. 😁

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But I thought Sony "didn't see the value" in offering a games subscription service. 🤣

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Played it last night, clearly inspired by Link's Awakening, but I dunno, it really isn't lighting my fire. 🤷🏾‍♂️

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Horizon Zero Dawn on PC.

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"Halo maker"? Do they mean 343 Industries or something? Because Bungie hasn't made a Halo game in over a decade.

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#9  Edited By UnnDunn
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@girlusocrazy said:

@regnaston: You can stream all games on PS Now but only download the PS4/5 games, and Game Pass you can download all the games but can only stream some of them. But PSNow is $60/y and Game Pass is like $120 and Ultimate is like $180 or something? I can't see the price

Game Pass Ultimate includes Xbox Live Gold and EA Play. So it's like PSNow ($60/yr) + PSPlus ($60/yr)+ EA Play ($30/yr).

Game Pass Ultimate is $180/yr (or you can get up to 3 years for $180 if you do the Xbox Live Gold upgrade). The rough equivalent on PlayStation is $150/yr.

Of course, Game Pass Ultimate includes day-one releases, monthly perks and PC support, which the Sony offering doesn't have.

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#10  Edited By UnnDunn
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@tormentos said:
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Without Xbox, I imagine Bungie would have continued languishing in obscurity making games for MacOS, at least until Apple decided to basically abandon the MacOS gaming market.

No.

In fact Halo was on the making for Mac and PS2 when MS bought Bungie.

One major reason Halo was so successful was because it was the game to buy with your new Xbox, and it took full advantage of things like the hard drive and built-in ethernet for system link capability. On PS2, it would have been just another game by a developer you'd never heard of (unless you had a Mac), with no system link and much smaller, claustrophobic levels thanks to no hard drive to cache data on. It's hard to imagine it would have achieved anywhere close to the same success on PS2 that it did on Xbox.