[QUOTE="wawasjohn"]

i thought they were the same. but most people say Live is much better. just want to know why?

AkimboBFGNinja

They are mostly the same but what really sets them apart is the overall user experience of Xbox Live. Its easier to use, it works, Micorosft tells you when there is a scheduled maintanence, patch downloads are quicker, Cross game chat, early access to DLC, better freinds management, updates and community playdates, better security, better moderators to help keep ignorant people in check. Earlier this year Microsoft and Police Busted a bunch of creepos on xbox live trying to solicite innapropriate activities on the service. And so far (knock on wood) Xbox live has never been hacked, keeping my Personal info safe. Xbox live is an overall bettter service, but that isnt to say that PSN is bad. Its usually the small things that make Xbox live a more seemless experience than PSN, but PSn is still pretty good for being free, there are just some annoyances.

PS: also to add Xbox live Arcade is also great, there are some very awesome XBL only arcade games that are great exclusives as well.

Uh PSN tells you when there will be maintanence, it shows it on the XMB and they can send e-mails as well. Download speed can be increaased with a psn plus account but I've personally never had bad d/l speeds in CA where I live but have seen slow speeds in MI. Might be the location of the servers or just a poorly set up network. PS home has tons of playdates and tournaments which can be found in home, on the main page of the ps3 browser or again you can have them sent to your e-mail. Live has been hacked and it still can be, and since when has MS been known for its quality of security ( im looking at you Iexplorer and vista).

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/xbox-live-hacked-accounts-stolen/131

Far better integration between console and the internet. (I can access download history, set stuff to download later, buy stuff, etc) ALL on Xbox.com. Can you do that on Playstation.com?

Cross game chat. Haven't PSN people been begging for this for years? Yet it still isn't there.You can get it with Gold.

You don't need to PAY if you want your achievments to automatically update like on PSN. ( :lol: ) Auto-updating has been FREE to EVERY XBL member from the start. Sony finally offers this now, but as a premium feature, lol.

Downloads (for me, at least) are FAR quicker on Xbox LIVE, especially game updates.

Achievments for EVERY game. PSN finally got this feature, what, in 2008 on SOME games? Didn't it only become mandatory for every game sometime in 2009?

Ability to change your gamertag. Want to change your PSN name? Too bad, you're stuck with it. At least you have the option to change it on LIVE.

So yeah, remind me why these two services are supposedly equal again? Or why PSN is better? It's better because it's free, right? :| That's the ONLY reasoning I ever hear from anyone claiming PSN's supposed superiority over LIVE.

Doolz2024

Oh where to begin, where to begin... 1. On PSN, it gets hacked into and gives my personal information to hackers and Sony plays dumb about the entire thing, including whether or not credit card data was stolen. 2. On PSN, you get a two month outage. 3. On PSN, you get brutal download times. Just to play demos with download and install time is just absurd. The word slow doesn't even give it justice. 4. On PSN, you don't have cross game chat. Hell, you don't have an easy way to even send messages to friends. 5. On PSN, there is less arcade games, demos, dlc. 6. On PSN, dlc usually comes AFTER Xbox Live has had it for some time. 7. On PSN, the community is dead, even for the higher ranked exclusives such as Uncharted 2. After one month the game was out there was about 5000 people playing. More people still play Halo 2. That's pathetic. You get all of this for FREE! Sorry, but I would rather pay $4 a month for all of this not to happen and actually get a service like Xbox Live that is actually good.brennanhuff

Uhh I'm shocked no one remembers Live being hacked and actual account losing funds. It happened more than once if I recall, google for details. Also PSN has two versions of their service, PSN plus installs games and updates in the background. PSN offers text chat rooms where you can mass invite all your friends , one on one mic and/or cam chat, pshome spaces with text and mic, cross game text messages or you can just simply send an invite. Again, Uncharted 2 wasn't bought for online gaming but for the story mode unlike the Halo franchise, which requires you to pay a fee forever for it to be used to its full potential.

[QUOTE="Tyrant156"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

oh i get it. now that it's proven the 360 has more critically acclaimed games, suddenly cows decided that scores don't matter anymore. who would have thought? :lol:

KarateeeChop

i've never said i agree with the scores. all i did was point that the 360 has more critically acclaimed games, which is a fact, like it or not.

so stop putting words in my mouth :lol:

[QUOTE="USBxDVD"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] how come people always say, Theres more features and just say party chat and then thats it, you and another user in this thread have done this, what are these other features that i can't get on ps3 besides cross game chat. I have a 360 but i will never get live for it, am i missing something besides cross game chat because if its big i'll go get live right now.

razgriz_101

For 10p a day basically oohhh thats so expensive for me.

A fiver a month is nothing out my wages at all so i dont really see a point in complaing bout such a small fee :-/

[QUOTE="wawasjohn"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

that isnt a PSN feature as you are not required to log into the PSn network to actuallly use it but nice try using that hobbled mess as a point.

razgriz_101

Facepalm for you on order.

I was meaning that utter mess they pass off as an internet browser, even the iPad has a better browser than it, ever tried posting on GS with it? its a complete and utter nightmare that should have just been left out.

still doesnt make sense y people go over the top about live. btw psn has web browser does live?wawasjohn

[QUOTE="Tyrant156"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

not to mention more critically acclaimed games. unlike some people, tthe rest of us actually have facts to back everything up.

and to reply to vertigo's post, stating facts isn't considered an attempt to put the 360 in a better light. it's already there.

but while we're still on the subject of spinning reality in favor in a certain console, why don't you let us know what you think of the method of excluding a part of a system's library due to some arbitrary timestamp that renders a game "too old to count"? :lol:

KarateeeChop

Heh these are facts now? Doesn't critically acclaimed usually mean someone's opinion, didn't a guy get fired from here for giving a bad review. I wouldn't put too much weight in these scores let alone use them as proof as to which has the better library.

oh i get it. now that it's proven the 360 has more critically acclaimed games, suddenly cows decided that scores don't matter anymore. who would have thought? :lol: