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#1 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

It costs more to execute an inmate than it does to feed and house them.

No abortions means millions upon millions of extra children born into adoption centers. Where is all this money going to come from? People don't seem to realize that if all these millions of extra children went to adoption centers, SOMEONE has to pay for them. Adoption centers wouldn't have the money or resources to care for so many extra children.

Thats a myth. You actually belive that a shot cost more than housing someone at 60k a year for 50 years? do the math hun it dont add up. Ah i figured it out! heres a way to pay for all those kids! execute any death row innmate immediatly after the court proceddings if there is iron clad evidence that they did the crime. Would be a better way to spend that 60k a year.

The average execution costs a few millions. You don't seem to factor in appeals, jury, etc etc. You can't just say "KILL HIM!" and be done with it, this isn't the 1500's.

Death penalty costs

The reason it costs so much, as stated in your linked article is because of the long appeals process. Which is why i stated we need to shorten the appeal process in cases that involve ironclad dna evidence. Hell, take them out back to a firing squad for all i care. they deserve less than that.
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#2 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

And I think it's selfish to force a woman to go through 9 months of psychological and physical torture for something she never asked for.

and i think its selfish to MURDER someone because you couldnt keep your legs closed and dont want to be bothered to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.

Take responsibility for rape?

i have already told you that i belive rape should be the only reason for an abortion other than the mothers life being endangered. please dont recycle old arguements.
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#3 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Gnomefan"]

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Then don't get an abortion?

What i mean is that I don't care if there are a couple rape cases among the 99% other cases of abortion. I think it is a selfish thing that you people won't just give a baby away for adoption if they don't want it....

And I think it's selfish to force a woman to go through 9 months of psychological and physical torture for something she never asked for.

and i think its selfish to MURDER someone because you couldnt keep your legs closed and dont want to be bothered to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
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#4 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Who is paying for these millions of children in adoption centers?

The same people that are paying for those children now. The same argument can be used for all those innmates that you dont want killed that are on death row. The average prison pays over 60k a year per innmate. Why should we pay for them but not these children?

It costs more to execute an inmate than it does to feed and house them.

No abortions means millions upon millions of extra children born into adoption centers. Where is all this money going to come from? People don't seem to realize that if all these millions of extra children went to adoption centers, SOMEONE has to pay for them. Adoption centers wouldn't have the money or resources to care for so many extra children.

Thats a myth. You actually belive that a shot cost more than housing someone at 60k a year for 50 years? do the math hun it dont add up. Ah i figured it out! heres a way to pay for all those kids! execute any death row innmate immediatly after the court proceddings if there is iron clad evidence that they did the crime. Would be a better way to spend that 60k a year.
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#5 Trollsters
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We need to figure out how to recreate this incident and sell it for a profit! soooo much money to be made!
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#6 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Again you seem to be advocating that it is a fact that a fetus is a human child.

We don't all believe in the bible, so telling us to make our choices/force us to make choices based on it flies in the face of my freedom.

I never said that is the reason YOU should belive its murder, that is why i belive its murder. like someone said earlier, if you dont want the child give it up for adoption, at least then your not killing it and it has a chance to live life.

Who is paying for these millions of children in adoption centers?

The same people that are paying for those children now. The same argument can be used for all those innmates that you dont want killed that are on death row. The average prison pays over 60k a year per innmate. Why should we pay for them but not these children?
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#7 Trollsters
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its got to be higher than that 68% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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#8 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I think execution is murder but people are usually happy for that.

We don't know when an unborn child becomes "human" that is why this debate exists. I don't know the exact time when the nervous system develops enough to feel pain, you could find it on google, I'm sure. I neither believe nor deny the existence of souls.

Why is the fetus' choice (which it can't make, since it has basically no intelligence) is more important than the mothers? Why was your mothers choice to keep you somehow sacred but another womans choice is wrong and she can't make it unless she makes the choice you agree with?

The fetus is living. It's a living fetus to me, if it's a full human baby is a debate.

LMFAO! wow so you advocate for the life of a murderer or a rapist but could care less of the life of an innocent child? That just baffles my mind..... And for my mother, it was never a choice, she like me belives what the bible says "from the moment you are concieved god wrote your name on his hand and loved you" (dont know offhand what the verse is)

Again you seem to be advocating that it is a fact that a fetus is a human child.

We don't all believe in the bible, so telling us to make our choices/force us to make choices based on it flies in the face of my freedom.

I never said that is the reason YOU should belive its murder, that is why i belive its murder. like someone said earlier, if you dont want the child give it up for adoption, at least then your not killing it and it has a chance to live life.
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#9 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="Trollsters"]doesnt work that way, u cannot unwillingly and unknowingly give away your soul.MocktheDead

You're just a troll, what do you know?

Trolls have souls too!
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#10 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

And that was your mothers choice. I am advocating women should be able to choose. Your mother got to choose, why shouldn't every other woman? No one is advocating actively using abortion for some sort of birth control, or forcing women to get abortions. I believe it should be a choice. Your mother didn't want her father trying to force her into a specific choice. Why is it okay when pro-lifers do it?

Let me ask you this pixel, when do you think an unborn child becomes human? when do you think that they can feel pain? do you belive in souls? if so when do they have a soul? Again, what about the unborn childs choice to live? This is a living human being for christ sake, and you think its ok that you should be able to choose to slaughter it because it will be a burden to you. thats disgusting and its murder, plain and simple.

I think execution is murder but people are usually happy for that.

We don't know when an unborn child becomes "human" that is why this debate exists. I don't know the exact time when the nervous system develops enough to feel pain, you could find it on google, I'm sure. I neither believe nor deny the existence of souls.

Why is the fetus' choice (which it can't make, since it has basically no intelligence) is more important than the mothers? Why was your mothers choice to keep you somehow sacred but another womans choice is wrong and she can't make it unless she makes the choice you agree with?

The fetus is living. It's a living fetus to me, if it's a full human baby is a debate.

LMFAO! wow so you advocate for the life of a murderer or a rapist but could care less of the life of an innocent child? That just baffles my mind..... And for my mother, it was never a choice, she like me belives what the bible says "from the moment you are concieved god wrote your name on his hand and loved you" (dont know offhand what the verse is)