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#1 Jux_Zeil
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[QUOTE="Jux_Zeil"][QUOTE="szewei85"]

[QUOTE="Shatilov"]I am basicly gonna get a Q6600 & a 8800 GTX , , these are the main power eaters , is 500W PSU good or shoulld i go for higher ? around 600W ? Wesker776

u need at least 700W PSU 4 long term insurance.frying your PC because of underpower PSU is unforgiven n trust me!i have gone through this b4 n it hurts a lot like my heart is being stabbed by a knife.:evil:

I know what you mean. They are not seeing the whole picture. Ad 8-10 USB devices an extra optical drive maybe a couple of HDD's and it soon mounts up to, "i'll just put my MP3 player on to charge. What's that burning smell." Puff!!

Do you two even know ANYTHING about electricity/power?

A GTX consumes roughly 180w, Q6600 around 100w, HDD and DVD-RW use around 25w together, motherboard and components attached to it consume another 80w roughly. That's around 400w, all up AT FULL LOAD, give or take a few components.

If that guy gets a HX520W, he'll be more than fine.

When you buy a new amp or stereo do you buy speakers with an extra 10 or so Watts of headroom? I make sure they don't blow out with an extra 100 watts.

Would someone use 2900 XT CrossFire, dual AMD FX-70's and 4GBs of DDR2-1066 on a 520w PSU? No.

Don't spread your uneducated opinions here. There's little to no point in buying a 1000w PSU for a PC that only consumes 300-400w at full load.

W=AxV or A=W/V

Possibility of new GFX cards being even more power hungry(Amps) in less than a year. The fact that CPU's with more cores mean more power consumption, less than a year away. 25w per core = 100w just on one 4 core chip.

Add it up and look to the future.

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[QUOTE="brood_aliance"]The GPU uses tons of power about 200-300W on load. The other parts don't use as much (about 100-200W on load for ALL other components). I know that it means that you only need a 500W PSU, but just to be safe, get at least a 550W. If you need some more info on PSU, go to NCIX.com then choose a PSU, then under the forum messages, there is bound to be a message by SKYMTL (a very good PSU expert).LordEC911

What card uses 300w? None...
The GTX tops out around 180w and the XT tops out around 225w.

Also the Corsair HX520w > OCZ GameXstream/StealthXtreme 600w & 700w.

When you buy a new amp or stereo do you buy speakers with an extra 10 or so Watts of headroom? I make sure they don't blow out with an extra 100 Watts.

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[QUOTE="Shatilov"]I am basicly gonna get a Q6600 & a 8800 GTX , , these are the main power eaters , is 500W PSU good or shoulld i go for higher ? around 600W ? szewei85

u need at least 700W PSU 4 long term insurance.frying your PC because of underpower PSU is unforgiven n trust me!i have gone through this b4 n it hurts a lot like my heart is being stabbed by a knife.:evil:

I know what you mean. They are not seeing the whole picture. Ad 8-10 USB devices an extra optical drive maybe a couple of HDD's and it soon mounts up to, "i'll just put my MP3 player on to charge. What's that burning smell." Puff!!

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DerkaDerkaJihad

It's way better than my old lump. Just the card. Not up to DX10. Even the 8800GTX twitches on Crysis DX9i've heard.

Thats the biggest load of bs I've seen in a while. An 8800gts and an e6600 will MAX THE GAME OUT in dx10, so theres no way in hell the 8800gtx is twitching in dx9. I want to see a link from a trustworthy site stating this.

http://www.custompc.co.uk/blogs/garethogden/2007/07/03/budget-directx-10-cards-you-cant-polish-a-turd/

http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/601217/crysis_first_look.html

http://www.flickr.com/photos/custompc/sets/72157594368034243/show/

http://nexgenwars.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-10745.html

http://incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=6665

There were more links but this subject seems to keep comimg up so oftenthey're not archiving them.

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I'm not saying he's wrong, we all have our own idea on what a good product should be and mine just happens to be longevity=good value.
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#6 Jux_Zeil
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[QUOTE="Jux_Zeil"]

[QUOTE="LordEC911"]

[QUOTE="Jux_Zeil"]

I'm sure you're going to need an 800W at least.kodex1717


Maybe we should offer advice when we know what we are talking about... OK?

From my experience the lower the PSU the hotter it will run, the faster the fans will spin, the noisier the PC.aken to the next rig so why not make it a good one for the next5 or so years. All adds up to common sense to me.

That has been your experience because you've bought crappy low-watt PSU's in the past. I'm sure at least a quarter of the energy it output was heat. A quality low-wattage PSU like a EarthWatts 380W is 80% efficient, producing less heat. I'd also like to point out that dual 2900XT's have been run on 500W power supplies, using only 429W of power at peak. That means that pretty much anything above 500W is wasted by 90% of people.

To the OP: If you're looking for something that won't break the bank but will power your system eaisly, I offer the Xclio Greatpower 550W. It has an 85% efficency rating, three +12v rails, and modular cableing support. And it's only $90.

http://forums.notebookreview.com/archive/index.php?t-66953.html

Who wants ok bits!?!

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[QUOTE="Jux_Zeil"]

I'm sure you're going to need an 800W at least.LordEC911


Maybe we should offer advice when we know what we are talking about... OK?

From my experience the lower the PSU the hotter it will run, the faster the fans will spin, the noisier the PC. You've also got a quad core CPU that gets hot, about 115TDP per Die. That makes for a toasty rig(nearly as toasty as my P4). What if you want to put a Blue-ray player in there when they get cheaper and they start putting games on those discs.On top of that the PSU can be taken to the next rig so why not make it a good one for the next5 or so years. All adds up to common sense to me.

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It's way better than my old lump. Just the card. Not up to DX10. Even the 8800GTX twitches on Crysis DX9i've heard.

brood_aliance

That has to be rumor. Why can't all game developers be like Blizzard and EA and make games run on almost all PCs.

EDIT: The EA developers, not the publishers (EA publishes Crysis).

I see it like this, in order for the Devs to get longevity out of there games they set the GFX at such a level that unless you have a dual setup from Nvidia's commercial range of cards(approx £13,000 worth) at the time of release, you just cant play them how they are meant to be played. People are still playing games like Oblivion and Dues Ex because the GFX cards that we have now(how many years later?) can max them out and still keep a nice frame rate.

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I'm sure you're going to need an 800W at least.
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So I just bought a new PC (I know that was very noobish of me but oh well), and I keep doubting it's potential, it's my first Desktop and I made sure to look for certain things and have plans to upgrade it but I need to know what it needs. Also I don't know if it's good enough for the Recommended specifications. They always recommend a intel 4 cpu of 3.0 ghz, my com is a dual core with only 2.4, am I safe?

Here's the specs' I'd like to know you guys think I could run crysis and other dx10 games or am I gonna need to upgrade:

Intel Core 2 duo E6600 (2.4 Ghz)

2gb Corsair ddr2 PC5300

Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT 256mb Video Memory

320GB SATA (7200 RPM)

I have an Asus SLi motherboard but Motherboards throughly confuse me. oh and first off I was thinking of getting a second 8600gt, is that wise?

Mcintyre72

It's way better than my old lump. Just the card. Not up to DX10. Even the 8800GTX twitches on Crysis DX9i've heard.