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#1 Jacanuk
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@LJS9502_basic said:
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Just admit that you guys like LJS have already tried and convicted him simply because that fits in your already established narrative. You formed your conclusion long before Ford even took the chair at the hearing.

Maybe we know people who have been sexually assaulted and don't demonize them and praise the perpetrator.

Well, so what? Or do you mean that because you know someone, you are able to judge someone as guilty without any evidence or any corroboration?

It´s horrible that any person is exposed to assault, but because you know someone it does not mean you can disregard the foundation of a democracy or the rule of law.

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#2 Jacanuk
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@mrbojangles25 said:
@theone86 said:
@Jacanuk said:

Women, sometimes they do not make sense.

Thanks you for this gem. Fair warning, I'm going to be throwing it back in your smug face at every opportunity.

To be fair, that Nikki Haley and Sarah Huckabee Sanders don't make much sense :P Oh, and Betsy DeVos

Wow I'm surprised at your bojangles. I mean I have read other posts of jacunk that are misogynistic but to see you agree is disappointing.

lol and here we have an LJS in another badly done trolling attempt.

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@MirkoS77 said:
@Fuhrer_D said:

@MirkoS77: When he was calmly denying th accusations the last couple weeks, those against continued to call him every name in the book. At some point you have to yell at those with fingers in their ears.

Those with fingers in their ears obviously don't wish to hear anything other than what they already believe. Coming out in a ranting, raving, partisan, personal driven vindication isn't going to convince them. In fact quite the contrary, it will fill them with further doubt. I felt no particular way towards Kavanaugh until I saw his testimony, and it did him no favors. The Right cannot seem to remove themselves from the fact that personal vindication in such manner doesn't behoove professional qualification and application, which is exactly what they want to prove. There are much bigger questions at play here than absolving his character of despicable claims.

Sorry but that is simply not true. If Kavanaugh had come out cool as ice or not shown a big emotional response, you guys on the left would have complained and argued that an innocent man would be angry so by not being angry he is of course guilty.

Just admit that you guys like LJS have already tried and convicted him simply because that fits in your already established narrative. You formed your conclusion long before Ford even took the chair at the hearing.

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@theone86 said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

I just don't understand why they feel the need to go ahead with this one person, Kavanaugh. Pick someone else.

Because there's no possible way they could nominate and approve someone before the midterms without throwing out just about every single accepted vetting procedure, and they know that they're probably not going to have the votes after the midterms. If they only lose one seat it would probably kill the Kavanaugh nomination, and if they lose two it would be enough for Democrats to block any nominee. Of course, I actually think they would have a better chance of approving a different candidate, but don't tell them that.

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Women, sometimes they do not make sense.

Thanks you for this gem. Fair warning, I'm going to be throwing it back in your smug face at every opportunity.

@Jacanuk said:

But it looks, Flake, has decided to go against and Kavanaugh is dead in the water. So 8 judges on the supreme court meaning that any major cases coming forward in the next 3 years, will be stalled. That is bound to cost the Democrats in 2020.

Oh, you mean like how the Supreme Court operated with eight justices for 293 days while Republicans held up Merrick Garland's nomination? You are a piece of work, you know that? You have to be the most cynical, selfish, completely hypocritical person I have ever had the displeasure of encountering. You either have an utter and complete lack of self-awareness, or just don't care about anything except your side winning. I don't even have the words.

Good for you.

And it´s not the same thing, but nice try.

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@mrbojangles25 said:
@Jacanuk said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

So I guess this happened this morning:

That was tough for me to watch, to be honest. This is why I [rarely] pity politicians, because they have to listen to things like this, for better or for worse.

I just don't understand why they feel the need to go ahead with this one person, Kavanaugh. Pick someone else.

Women, sometimes they do not make sense. This is not about what she went through or anyone else, this is about Ford and Kavanagh

But they can´t pick someone else if Kavanaugh falls through the Democrats will hold the seat open until 2021.

Ah OK, thanks for clarifying that second part.

As for what it is about...isn't about them? I mean specific cases are about one person v another (or one institution against a person, or vice versa), but they establish precedents. I know this isn't a case (yet), but if he is put into that position it still establishes a precedent for the rest of the country.

I know it's an emotional issue, and I generally try to be objective when there's important big-picture stuff on the line, but it seems like such a small thing. Idunno it would be nice to know the truth, one way or the other. And I sincerely mean that, I don't really care I have no horse in this race if Kavanaugh didn't do it, then we should know. If he did do it, then we should know.

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@mrbojangles25: Because they believe the accusations to be false?

That's their right. But are they investigating the matter?

I meant it´s not about all the women and men who are sexually assaulted. This hearing is about Kavanaugh and if he should become a supreme court justice, confirming him does not mean that anyone is minimizing what these women and men are and have gone through.

You cannot let emotions rule you, this should be judged on the evidence and not who you like or what you may have gone through. The women going to Flake is letting her emotions control her.

EDIT: Flake said aye but with a small hurdle, which I 100% agree with, a weeks delay is not going to hurt the final vote. For an FBI Investigation.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Jacanuk: he was accused by Ford decades ago. She saw a therapist at least 6 years ago and told her family/friends about kavanaugh long before he was even considered for supreme Court. Truth be told, I don't think he should be sent to jail or prosecuted, since these.kind of sexual events happen to almost everyone who's gone to a party in their lives. However, the fact that kavanaugh lies about it and not accepting responsibility. The way he melted down and instead of keeping his cool.

This guy is in his 50s but isn't fit to be a judge of anything. Let alone supreme Court.

No, he was not accused of decades ago. Ford claims that she through therapy figure out that she was assaulted. Which i have no reason to believe did not happen, the problem is when she claims it´s Kavanaugh , there is simply to many evidence against her story to make her believable in regards to Kavanaugh.

Also, he has passed 6 FBI background checks why did none of them find anything at all, if you guys claim an FBI investigation will figure it all out, how come they have done it 6 times and nothing was found.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

So I guess this happened this morning:

That was tough for me to watch, to be honest. This is why I [rarely] pity politicians, because they have to listen to things like this, for better or for worse.

I just don't understand why they feel the need to go ahead with this one person, Kavanaugh. Pick someone else.

Women, sometimes they do not make sense. This is not about what she went through or anyone else, this is about Ford and Kavanagh

But they can´t pick someone else if Kavanaugh falls through the Democrats will hold the seat open until 2021.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Did anyone actually watch any of the hearing? It's a circus for sure, and the FBI should be investigating Kavanaugh (but that will only happen on orders from the federal government, so good luck there...), but I thought Kamala Harris had some good points:

Ford has/had been seeing a therapist about this. The therapist has detailed notes. This was years ago.

Ford has told various confidantes (family, friends) about this.

She wrote a letter to her state rep about Kavanaugh, asking them to do something about it...and then the story get's leaked.

Say what you want but this is something that is years in the making, and it's time to pay up. I am surprised the Republicans just don't appoint someone else; they'd get bonus points of then went with Amy Barrett, for one. Would almost make people forget this even happened, I bet.

But, no, that'd be doing the right thing, and the GOP doesn't really do that.

@MirkoS77 said:

Ford’s story is not my concern......Kavanaugh’s inability to contain himself, and especially his partisan rant, has me genuinely concerned he’s not fit for the job.

Indeed. Someone so prone to emotions should not have anything to do with impartial, objective law. Granted, there are certain moral applications, but I'd like to think a Justice could remove themselves from the equation when deciding. I don't think Kavanaugh could do this.

Yes, I watched it and Ford had several odd things, her tone of voice which was clearly not her normal voice, she took it down to a child-like level. Also her background, education, experience which clearly makes her able to expertly fake certain key things. Kavanaugh was at the same time also a bit questionable, a few questions he avoided and did not answer.

So at the end of this circus, there was so little learned and weighing the evidence, Ford has herself and no one else, her corroborating evidence fell through and was denied, Kavanaugh has the journal, the people who were there denying that. Not to mention all the people who actually were present around both and worked for Kavanaugh all denying that he could have done this. Sure Ford has told a few friends and her husband but friends and a husband is not heavy evidence.

Also, there are the Democrats, why did Feinstein hold on to the evidence? why didn´t she ask Kavanaugh about it during the private sessions, the private meeting or come forward, this is a serious accusation and if it has been revealed in July, there would have been a proper FBI investigation and 2 people Ford and Kavanaugh may have been spared this circus.

So blame the GOP, but you cannot also blame the Democrats.

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@MirkoS77 said:

Ford’s story is not my concern......Kavanaugh’s inability to contain himself, and especially his partisan rant, has me genuinely concerned he’s not fit for the job.

So he should not be mad for his family or his 10-year-old and 13-year-old daughters who will for always be affected by this accusations. Which has no evidence backing it up.

Can you please provide a guide to how you should act when you are publically accused and have your life destroyed...

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#10 Jacanuk
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@watercrack445 said:

one more month til November. Who will win?

Democrats but they won´t secure it as easy as predicted. This latest thing with Kavanaugh will hopefully make most independents and Republicans mad enough to go to the polls.