Funniest thing is the VAST majority of console gamers don't have consoles as powerfull as PS4 either. Do they? So this is a stupid statement. Just like console gamers who will upgrade to the PS4 over the next few years pc gamers will update their hardware too. Most steam users PC's from what I saw beat current Gen consoles, ya know, the ones 99.99% of console gamers currently have

The game is still new and you'retalking sales?? This isn't a console game, pc games traditionally sell more over time rather than a mad rush upon release. Add to that TW bad release reputation 800k is amazing. It's still constantly on the steam best sellers list, in fact I don't think it's been off it since release. It's also a completely different game performance wise vs the release version. It's a fantastic game. I love it.

Sins of a Solar Empire

Guild Wars 2

Dragon Age Origins

Mass Effect 2

Dawn of Discovery

Ask me again in 10 minutes I'm likely to give you a different top 5 lol, including Skyrim, Fallout, Dawn of War 2 series and many more

I'm guessing these issues are more of an optimization problem rather than inadequate PS4 hardware. Pretty sure a patch will fix it before long.

@finalfantasy94: it's worth a play, even for a month. I only did the free period, I was planning on subscribing but by the end of the month I was just bored to tears and was missing Guild Wars 2. Kinda feel I have to play when I subscribe, unlike GW2 where I can leave and return whenever I want

@Mr_BillGates: no, real gamers won't be limiting themselves to just one system or one type of system.

@madsnakehhh: it's subscription but you get the 1st month free.

Why do people still call the Steambox a console??? It's a PC for crying out loud. You don't even need to use the Steam pad. You can use m/kb or PS3/4 pad or 360/X1 pad. It's just a pre built pc that comes with Steam OS pre installed. Why is that so hard for some people to grasp???

@charizard1605: personally thought it was boring as hell. I love MMO's. I tried and tried to like it but compared to games like Rift and Guild Wars 2 it's just dull.

@-Damien-: 1080p is low resolution for pc. It's pretty much the minimum for pc gamers these days. I'm actually embarrassed I still game at 1080p.