FF 7 would be great and FF 9. I would not mind seeing xenosaga or xenogear especially .

Freespace 2 ...the captial ship battles in that game were epic. Still the best space sim ever I dont care what anyone says.

I can honestly say I'm considering a switch to the 360 because of this debacle. I enjoy online gaming immensely and I've always known that Xbox Live has a much larger community than PSN, not to mention a bunch more gamers that will use their headsets which makes communication much easier. I guess knowing that I don't have to pay for PSN and my loyalty to the Sony brand kept me on PS3, but I seriously wonder how much the online community will prosper after this. I'm seriously considering selling my PS3 and all (sadly) 30ish games I own and going with the Microsoft label. I'll miss God of War and a few other exclusives on Sony, but I fear this incident has destroyed any momentum Sony had bringing the PlayStation brand back.

The__MCP

The dumbest thing I ever did was trade in my 360 which had about 20 or so games. Sure I have the PS3 and my PC but I really regret getting rid of the 360. This PSN outage sucks and again like I said before you have to think on how Sony implemented their network/security infrastructure here but with that said the PS3 is a good system I would not get rid of it you may regret it later down the road. Now getting a 360 to go along with the PS3 would be good and besides if anything else you still have a bluray player.

[QUOTE="Evo310whp"]I have nothing to be confused with here.smkooq

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[QUOTE="smkooq"] Well with firmware updates it is what keeps the network security or any hardwares up to date.smkooq

The network and security polices, counter measures and detection would never be managed by simple firmware updates thats just not how you would keep a network running like I said before bad security implementation here. There has to be patch management of course on the acutal firewalls,switches/routers and servers themselves the firmware/middleware updates we receive are for the console not the network. Given by what they have release to us again it does not seem like that had a very strong/secure network design/infrastructre to begin with.

I have nothing to be confused with here. You seem knowledgable here what does the Playstation firmware updates we receive have to do with the PSN network security I never said that. The previous poster mention the firmware update for the PS3 as if that was any sense of real security for the addressing /preventing this outage. Its like me having the latest windows service pack and such for computer/workstation but what good is it if my actual physical and logical security implementation is worthless and left vunlnarable. I said it before patch management is a a factor when maintaining a network but bottom line is your not going to have a secure network by doing firmware updates and impletmenting weak hash encryption only here and as I mentioned above in my silly rant if their network was indeed well structured this kind of attack would be minimal at best.

Who knows what the rebuilding from the ground up mean...coming from sony it could mean just about anything. Obviously no one wants this to happen again I just think as customer's we are all just getting the run around and I just think maybe more could of been done to counter/prevent minimize this for us users.

[QUOTE="Evo310whp"]

low/high level firmware updates are I would think are more geared towards that of the acutal playstation or hardware (video card or bios something like that I would think) Your not going to have your network security held together and protected with firmware and middleware.

smkooq

The network and security polices, counter measures and detection would never be managed by simple firmware updates thats just not how you would keep a network running like I said before bad security implementation here. There has to be patch management of course on the acutal firewalls,switches/routers and servers themselves the firmware/middleware updates we receive are for the console not the network. Given by what they have release to us again it does not seem like that had a very strong/secure network design/infrastructre to begin with.

Then again...maybe that is the case...which again is not acceptable. I mean who do they have running their network a 5 year old. Simply bad implemetation but I guess this is their wake up call.

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I think to some point it is understandable regarding the PSN attack and that it can take time to bring a network back online however a month and ongoing now is a little bit ridiculous. Attacks happen all the time to personal, cooperate and government servers/networks alike, DoS, DDoS,port scans, man in middle, privlege escalation viruses and worms and such can all be used by external and internal threats to bring a network down, for hacking evesdropping and all sorts of illegal cyber crimes however security and counter measures should be in place for these very attacks to prevent this kind of thing from happening or at lease minimize the impact on a network.

Of course Sony will not tell us how there network security is or how the network is mapped but it makes you think. I mean was there any real security in the first place, any kind of network intrusion detection impletmented, firewall or IPS to prevent or warn against this kind of malicious activity.

Were there any kind of secuirty policies or counter measures even in place to being with ...does not seem like it. I would think most companies especially one as big as Sony here would run a standard network and security assestments and roll out and deploy networkwide encryption on their network. Were there audits of the network performed and why not a network that supports multiple encryption standards at that like 192 or 256 bit encryption standards. Hash encryption which I think Sony used can be dangerous, rainbow tables can be obtained on the internet and used to reverse and crack personal account information if the hash function is weak enough these kinda of things can be used by an avg dude just reading hacking for dummies.

I work in IM/IT i am not saying Sony does not know what they are doing but they should of been more secuirty minded with their network and should of always had something like this planned or at least somewhat addressed with their network/secuirty infrastructure. Networks like I said are always going to be attacked and may indeed go down but the need to build your network "from the ground up" tells me that maybe much was not in place to begin with and that is not acceptable. I have no reason to trade in my playstation but i am just tired of Sony's PR blowing smoke up my a**--rant complete

tjoeb123

low/high level firmware updates are I would think are more geared towards that of the acutal playstation or hardware (video card or bios something like that I would think) Your not going to have your network security held together and protected with firmware and middleware.