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#1 Deathscythe777
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- Power Surge Protector and Surge Protector are the same thing, problem is that nearly every board says it's a surge protector these days so they can sell....but if it's less than $50 then it's not. - UPS prevents ur PC from shutting off instantly if the power goes out. You have to ask urself though, if it's not a server, how often does the power go out in ur area to see if u really need one. - Cloud Storage there are a few options, I recommend CrashPlan (http://www.crashplan.com/). I've done extensive testing on all of them and CrashPlan is still the best for cloud backup. They are not free but they are the best.FelipeInside


if I were to use Crashplan, just to take care of stuff like voice recorder files, papers and handouts from school, what plan would i use?

I don't think the power goes out much in my area.

Also, this hasn't been answered, but does not having a UPS mean that my computer could get shut down suddenly due to an outage, causing the computer to possibly get damaged? From your previous post, you said, "With modern computers, a power outage usually doesn't damage anything. They are made with technologies that prevent that." But you also said, "Some times, specially when there are electrical storms or power outages, comes a "surge", which means too much voltage is going through the cord. This means too much power goes into ur PC all at once and can damage components. If the PC is roughly new, the Power Supply is equipped to handle these surges, but can "die" in the process." It seems you said outages aren't a real problem, but you later said it could be.

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#2 Deathscythe777
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Ok, let me break it down for you even more simpler. First, both Jiggs and I know more about this stuff than you do. Don't take that the wrong way, but I've been in IT for the past 20 years and Jiggs knows his stuff too, so when we say something don't think we are lying or that you know more about the subject than us. POWER - If you want your PC to go for a few more minutes in case the power goes out, get a UPS - If you want your PC to be protected 90% of the time from surges and brownouts, get a good higher priced ****** Power Surge Protector Board. Don't buy those that say Surge Protector but cost $20. - If you buy a UPS with a Surge Protector Board included then you get the best of both worlds. BACKUP There are 4 ways (generally) to back up: 1- To a USB Flash Drive. Don't do it, simple. I worked in a computer shop for years and if you just could see the amount of people backing up to Flash Drives and their drives failing, leaving them with nothing 2- To an External USB Hard Drive: the most common and easy way to backup. They are more reliable than Flash Drives and you can turn them off (unplug them) so if a super surge destroys ur PC, the external wasn't connected and is safe with ur data. 3- To another INTERNAL Hard Drive: Some people have a second hard drive inside their PC for backups, which is fine but you might loose the data in the case of a super surge. 4- To the cloud (or internet): now there are ways to backup to the internet. Problems here are they are slower than the traditional ways (backup and recovery) and u are also putting ur data out there which some people don't like. I suggest you print a copy of this post for further reference.FelipeInside
I thought that a UPS was also important because anything that causes your PC to just shut off, could damage the PC, so a UPS would be useful for preventing the PC from shutting off like that. I think someone said something like that. Am i wrong? Where can i get a cloud storage? Lastly, i think i am using a surge protector, but i really doubt it was more than $25. What is the difference between a power surge protector board, and a surge protector? The way someone described it to me in this thread makes me believe they're the same...The surge protector i am using has 6 outlets and a switch, as i said before.

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#4 Deathscythe777
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Deathscythe777"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] Yeah that's exactly it, you don't need a UPS, losing power won't damage your PC, it's just inconvenient.

But losing power and having it come back on turned my PC on. What about that issue? What about a surge happening? Will using a surge protector prevent against EVERYTHING bad that could possibly happen? I want to be sure.

The power coming back on is already regulated through your home circuit breakers so it's not an issue, if there's a surge your circuit breakers stop your electricals taking damage, so a surge protector is just complementing it from smaller surges that can affect more delicate hardware such as a PC or bulbs. Seriously a surge protector is all you need.

wait, so i don't have to worry about the power going out and coming back on damaging my PC, because the circuit breaker takes care of that? In basic terms, you're saying the circuit breaker protects my stuff that uses electricity from really big surges, and the surge protector protects that same stuff from smaller surges? As you might have guessed, i'm not familiar with this stuff.
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#6 Deathscythe777
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Deathscythe777"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]If ur editing a word document for example, and the computer shuts down without proper shutdown, u can corrupt the document. A UPS just gives u that extra time to properly save the document and shut down the PC. When u are editing any document, u should be saving the document on your Hard Drive on the computer, and then backing up ur documents to an external Hard Drive, not a USB Memory Stick since they are made for transfer.

So a UPS is the only way to keep a document from being corrupted if the computer shuts down without proper shutdown? I may have to buy one. The second sentence you typed, i'm not sure about. I mean are external hard drives better for saving word documents than USB flash drives? Lastly, what should i buy to get full benefits (i'm talking about the list of stuff you named, that had to do with power boards)

Well, basically yes. Most of the time the document won't get corrupted, but if ur anal about those things then you need can get a UPS. Yes, external hard drives are better than USB Flash Drives. Ext. are meant for backups, Flash Drives are meant for transfer and quick storage, they are a lot more fragile. To buy, u have to decide if u need a UPS or just a power board. If u go UPS, get APC brand, they are good. If u go Power Surge Board, look into ******.

I looked at your post which explained what power boards and other stuff were. Kind of confusing, i'm not savvy with this kind of stuff. Also, i don't think flash drives are that fragile. It's not like i will be in danger of somehow stepping on it or snapping it into 2. I mean the flash drive serves its purpose as saving your important stuff to access later, right?
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#7 Deathscythe777
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]If ur editing a word document for example, and the computer shuts down without proper shutdown, u can corrupt the document. A UPS just gives u that extra time to properly save the document and shut down the PC. When u are editing any document, u should be saving the document on your Hard Drive on the computer, and then backing up ur documents to an external Hard Drive, not a USB Memory Stick since they are made for transfer.

So a UPS is the only way to keep a document from being corrupted if the computer shuts down without proper shutdown? I may have to buy one. The second sentence you typed, i'm not sure about. I mean are external hard drives better for saving word documents than USB flash drives? Lastly, what should i buy to get full benefits (i'm talking about the list of stuff you named, that had to do with power boards)
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#8 Deathscythe777
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Deathscythe777"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Let me break it down for you since looks like u didn't read my other post: Surge Protector: will protect again surges and brownouts. Now, if a lightning bolt strikes ur house, nothing will protect ur PC. UPS: keeps ur computer going for 2-3 minutes if the power goes out, just enough time to turn it off. If ur not doing important stuff on the PC (like work documents, etc) then a surge protector is all u need.

I did read your post, it may have been that i thought a UPS was good to stop a PC from just shutting down if an outage or something else happened, so that nothing breaks. In other words, you are also saying that all that a UPS is good for is saving word documents that were typed up? If that's all it's good for, i'll be fine, i'll probably just keep saving my progress on a USB flash drive while making a word document, so that if something happens to the PC, i could just finish it somewhere else.

No, ur still confused. A UPS just keeps the power to the PC going for another 2-3 minutes if the power in the house goes out, that's all it does. A Surge Protector stabilizes the current if a surge happens. And ProTip, don't backup on Flash Drives, they aren't for that.

I'm probably confused, but bear with me. I just assumed that if a computer just turns off due to an outage, that could damage it. So a UPS gives you time to turn the PC off the right way so nothing bad happens. And why shouldn't i use a USB flash drive to save what i typed up so far on a word document?
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#9 Deathscythe777
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Deathscythe777"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] Yeah that's exactly it, you don't need a UPS, losing power won't damage your PC, it's just inconvenient.

But losing power and having it come back on turned my PC on. What about that issue? What about a surge happening? Will using a surge protector prevent against EVERYTHING bad that could possibly happen? I want to be sure.

Let me break it down for you since looks like u didn't read my other post: Surge Protector: will protect again surges and brownouts. Now, if a lightning bolt strikes ur house, nothing will protect ur PC. UPS: keeps ur computer going for 2-3 minutes if the power goes out, just enough time to turn it off. If ur not doing important stuff on the PC (like work documents, etc) then a surge protector is all u need.

I did read your post, it may have been that i thought a UPS was good to stop a PC from just shutting down if an outage or something else happened, so that nothing breaks. In other words, you are also saying that all that a UPS is good for is saving word documents that were typed up? If that's all it's good for, i'll be fine, i'll probably just keep saving my progress on a USB flash drive while making a word document, so that if something happens to the PC, i could just finish it somewhere else.
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#10 Deathscythe777
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[QUOTE="Deathscythe777"][QUOTE="JohnF111"]That's why you have a surge protector, so that the surge won't reach your PC. Granted they aren't fool proof and a lightning strike can make a surge reach your PC through a surge protector but lets face it, if that happens then you will have bigger problems than simply a damaged PC.JohnF111
Like i said in my first post, the power in my home just went out for about 20 seconds, but after that i'm not sure what happened. My PC basically was plugged into a surge protector, and i think it basically turned on the moment after the power was back. Will a surge protector prevent against something like that resulting in damaging the PC? Next question, i'm no businessman, just someone who will probably do papers for school...You're saying i don't need a UPS?

Yeah that's exactly it, you don't need a UPS, losing power won't damage your PC, it's just inconvenient.

But losing power and having it come back on turned my PC on. What about that issue? What about a surge happening? Will using a surge protector prevent against EVERYTHING bad that could possibly happen? I want to be sure.
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