[QUOTE="Dark__Link"]On average, you pay the same amount whether you're tipping or paying more for the meal (to pay the server a fair wage). In the tipping system, you control quality of service. Bad service? Small tip. Great service? Big tip. Server just did their job and nothing more? Regular tip (basically the amount the food prices would go up by without the tipping system). In the no-tipping system, you can't control the quality of service. Bad service? Tough sh*t, you pay full amount. Great service? Tough sh*t for the server, he gets the normal amount. So, if both systems see you paying the same amount (on average, obviously not case-by-case), then why would you pick the option that doesn't let you control the quality of the service?BuryMe
Your post actully exemplifies my probem with tipping.You aren't controlling the quality of the sevice. The service has already been rendered by the time you are supposed to tip.
And since a tip of 15% has become the expected norm, tipping any less generally just makes you look cheap, even if the waiter as bad.And worst, it's not uncommon for people to tip for bad service simply because they feel society compells them to.
If tipping wasn't expected the way it seems to be today, I would be more inclined to agree. But since tipping is the expected norm, it doesn't accomplish what people often credit it with (namely, improving service.)
Until that happens, I'd rather see waiters be paid a fair wage for their services, and bad employees should simply be let go.
You aren't controlling the quality right then and there, no, but you are controlling future quality. Waiter gets a big tip, he'll know he did something well, and he'll do it again. It's just conditioning, but that's how it works. As for the rest of your post... tipping really should be expected, because after all, you're paying for the service. When the bill comes, the amount stated is NOT to pay for your service. It's to pay for your food. But you're expected to pay for both the service and the food. So a basic 10-15% tip SHOULD be expected for so-so service because you're just paying for the service itself. Take some away, or add more depending on how they did beyond that.
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