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#1 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Let there be STICKY.

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Searching// how this is relevant to System Wars... searching... searching... [404] File not found.

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@Pedro said:

@AdobeArtist: I don't see how this topic is about "free expression in games" when the game developer has already created their expression to which a select few don't like because it doesn't reflect their expression.

Also why is personal attacks acceptable for everyone else except mods? Shouldn't it be a rule across the board? I say this because its absolutely rampant in this forum and can be found in almost every thread. Its odd that its now a problem.

Of course the devs already created what they created. But MKXchrome is asking "SHOULD the MK series include sexuality?" So the topic is very much about free expression in games.

As for the conduct issue; I don't know where you get the idea that personal attacks are "acceptable" for anyone. They aren't. Never have been and never will be. In every revision of the CoC and TOU, it's always been pointed out. Nor is System Wars an exception to this.

It is a rule across the board in written form, but being applied across the board in practice is easier said than done. It's not a perfect system but we moderators can't possibly see every infraction; we aren't omniscient and even with a team can't be active on all the boards 24/7 to read through each topic in each board.

I know when users get a moderation notice for something they see others do, they feel like they're uniquely targeted. Not the case at all, but we can't catch everything that happens. We do what we can when we can. Like I said, not perfect but between the moderation team, flagging and reporting, even though flagging does get abused,it's the best solution we got.

The only moderator that could pore through all the posts on a 24/7 cycle is an AI program, and I'm sure the community wouldn't want to have our behavior regulated by something unable to read context into a programmed word filter.

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@NoodleFighter said:
@AdobeArtist said:
@calvincfb said:

It's a game, not a porn, so no.

This post is a strawman, not a legitimate argument.

@MonsieurX said:

Why is there a need to sexualize everything, everytime?

WTF is with all this ludicrous hyperbole? Because some games include sexuality, doesn't in any way represent that sexualization happens in "everything, everytime." in the medium as a whole. And I'm sure you don't actually mean that. Just that your complaint is on a poor foundation when you lean on hyperbole as a crutch, like the post above.

Why is it that every medium of entertainment and art can have sexualization but gaming can't? Going by their logic we don't need violence and gore in video games either because horror movies, butcher shops, slaughterhouses, war and other real life incidents/tragedy already exist for you to look at.

Exactly the double standards of sex vs violence.

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@Rockman999 said:

@calvincfb said:

@AdobeArtist: you need a real woman, seriously.

Isn't that guy like in his mid 40s? Dude gives off those "goes to the mall and leers at young and teen women" vibes.

I realize that you're both lashing out because I called out your arguments. But that's just the thing, I questioned your arguments, the reasoning and methodology behind them. This discussion (topic) is about free expression in games, and you both resorted (quite predictably so) to the old ad hominem fallacy; deflecting from the points and attacking the character of anyone defending fictional sexuality. Not just me but to those your first posts were in response to.

Which was the very point of my comments, that hyperbole and strawman replies are a crutch used when an actual counter argument can't be made.

But the main point here and now, don't try those personal attacks again. Not going to warn again, both of you.

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@calvincfb said:

It's a game, not a porn, so no.

This post is a strawman, not a legitimate argument.

@MonsieurX said:

Why is there a need to sexualize everything, everytime?

WTF is with all this ludicrous hyperbole? Because some games include sexuality, doesn't in any way represent that sexualization happens in "everything, everytime." in the medium as a whole. And I'm sure you don't actually mean that. Just that your complaint is on a poor foundation when you lean on hyperbole as a crutch, like the post above.

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@Telekill said:

Yes. Yes they should because I don't care about SJW bullcrap.

The more it offends them, the giddier I get. :D

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@Pedro said:
@AdobeArtist said:

Giving Microsoft wayyyyyyyy too much credit for generosity. Which can be said of pretty much the entire AAA games industry; while loot boxes are under scrutiny, where there's a way they can take more of your money, they'll find it... and even convince you to be thankful for it.

They can potentially make more money with free online with the cut they get from free to play transactions.

AAA games rake in more profit from microtransactions than the $60 entry price, and easily by a factor of 5X, if not more. EA and Activision themselves have released graphs to show this. They could make all games F2P (which is where micro's come from) and still be ludicrously profitable.

They could... but why should they when they can squeeze out every dollar they can, and so long as the consumers are more than willing to be charged beyond the entry fee. They aren't looking for the most "fair deal for us", they're looking for the maximum revenue potential for their pockets. Again you're underestimating their greed. Mountains of money isn't enough for them... no amount will EVER be enough.

And it's the same thing with Microsoft's online pricing; sure they could still be very profitable just on the micro-revenue. But if they can still get both that and the subscription fee... then the micro-only-revenue just isn't going to be enough to satisfy the top level execs.

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Giving Microsoft wayyyyyyyy too much credit for generosity. Which can be said of pretty much the entire AAA games industry; while loot boxes are under scrutiny, where there's a way they can take more of your money, they'll find it... and even convince you to be thankful for it.

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@ghosts4ever said:

No wonder woman game please. in justice league there is wonder woman but making entire game based on her is just a no.

Color me "surprised" ????