The Final Debate: CoD4: Modern Warfare vs. CoD: World at War OR BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#51 Logan1616
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[QUOTE="SaintJimmmy"]Cod4 not saying cod5 is bad cod4 was just more fun. now no more of these threads ever again kthxbye

lol that's why it's called the final debate. we should get this stickied...... STICKY PETITION!!!!!!!!!!!11
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#52 Logan1616
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I skipped CoD4 for various reasons, but got WaW for Christmas and have really liked it so far, especially multiplayer. I'll get CoD4 when the price is less than $60, of course I never see it on sale anymore.....scfan3
Various reasons? Such as...??? The prices goes down a lot. Check Best Buy, Circuit City, and Target, your local stores. It's not $60 usually....
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#53 Logan1616
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General Opinion right now says CoD4 is way better.
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#54 Reel_E_Weird
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My vote goes to COD4. I was never a big fan of those types of games (FPS) but it really opened my eyes to a whole different genre of games.

As far as gameplay, COD4 wins with me b/c it was the originator. WaW is a duplicate set in a different era but it does have some positives. For one, I like sticky grenade. Bigger maps are a plus, and the tanks are appealing at first but quickly get old when you have a team that does nothing but wait for tank respawns, and its even more frustrating when you have a bunch of dudes on your team who dont have any defense for tanks on tank boards...but thats just a personal peeve. My personal grievances with online players doesnt take away that WaW is a decent game but I think overall COD4 is better.

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#55 Staryoshi87
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W@W. Hate modern combat love WW2. Love both games though.
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#56 XCyberForceX
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I skipped CoD4 for various reasons, but got WaW for Christmas and have really liked it so far, especially multiplayer. I'll get CoD4 when the price is less than $60, of course I never see it on sale anymore.....scfan3

Gamestop $49.99 (new) and probably cheaper is you buy used.

Ebay you can find at roughly $36.

Now you have no excuses. Go out and buy it and then come back with your decision of which one you prefer!

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#57 naruto7777
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Cod4 there are less campers nd the graphics are better
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#58 Eis12
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WaW for me. I'm just much better at Waw than 4. I have just a 1.30 K/D on WaW but i love the hell out of it. 4 i have like a .87 K/D. I'm excited for Moder Warfare 2 tho. There is a few minor problems with WaW like the glitches get old and the big maps with tanks...gahhh. I'm just a big fan of Call of Duty, before i was in love with Wolfenstein Enemy Territory on PC but once i got the 360 and 4 i fell in love with CoD. Cheers to CoD MW2! Have fun and hope to see you on the battlefield. Eis12

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#59 Logan1616
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W@W. Hate modern combat love WW2. Love both games though.Staryoshi87
So are you implying that you hate the setting of CoD4, since you hate modern combat, but you like the gameplay of it? Sorry, just a little confused there.
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#60 Logan1616
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WaW for me. I'm just much better at Waw than 4. I have just a 1.30 K/D on WaW but i love the hell out of it. 4 i have like a .87 K/D. I'm excited for Moder Warfare 2 tho. There is a few minor problems with WaW like the glitches get old and the big maps with tanks...gahhh. I'm just a big fan of Call of Duty, before i was in love with Wolfenstein Enemy Territory on PC but once i got the 360 and 4 i fell in love with CoD. Cheers to CoD MW2! Have fun and hope to see you on the battlefield. Eis12

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Thanks for the reply! Nice to see you're new to the site and contributing! :)
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#61 Logan1616
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Cod4 there are less campers nd the graphics are betternaruto7777
Really? The graphics are better, but that might just be with the modern setting, I'm not sure. But I find a lot of campers in COD4 as well, which is why I usually go with: MP5 Silenced Deagle (Beast) Bandolier UAV Jammer Steady Aim
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#62 SexyPorkins
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I really like both games...but I prefer World at War...
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#63 Logan1616
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I really like both games...but I prefer World at War...SexyPorkins
I really like both games....but I prefer CoD4. :) Why do you prefer WaW over MW?
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#64 Logan1616
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Honestly, let's get this thing stickied, because people are always arguing which one is better....
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#65 Toriko42
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Both give me different things. Call of Duty World at War takes it back to what I loved about the series, WW2, and Modern Warfare brings on the awesome modern warfare.
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#66 BR_Ninja1102
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it really doesn't matter cod4 and world at war are both good games there is no need to debate over these games. or

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#67 Logan1616
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Both give me different things. Call of Duty World at War takes it back to what I loved about the series, WW2, and Modern Warfare brings on the awesome modern warfare. Toriko42
True, both are well made and are good at different things.
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#68 Logan1616
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it really doesn't matter cod4 and world at war are both good games there is no need to debate over these games. or

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Does the bigger box imply the better game? :|

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#69 niches_hugic
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I have to say that COD 4 was better mostly for the new weapons and I love old school mode and the multiplayer maps. World At Wars Multiplayer (offline at least) SUCKED:! but the missions were pretty good. The only thing I realy liked about World At War was Nazi zombies. If the COD 6 has all that COD 4 had plus some form of Nazi zombies I think you would have an amazing game.
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#70 Logan1616
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I have to say that COD 4 was better mostly for the new weapons and I love old school mode and the multiplayer maps. World At Wars Multiplayer (offline at least) SUCKED:! but the missions were pretty good. The only thing I realy liked about World At War was Nazi zombies. If the COD 6 has all that COD 4 had plus some form of Nazi zombies I think you would have an amazing game. niches_hugic
I never have played offline multiplayer, so I wouldn't know. But I agree with you that CoD6 would be great with all the stuff from CoD4 and some sort of Nazi Terrorists.
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#71 akai_reaver
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Honestly, let's get this thing stickied, because people are always arguing which one is better....Logan1616
I like the thread. But it's not sticky worthy in any way. Sorry buddy.
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#72 J_McSpank
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the final debate... until someone else makes the exact same thread in about an hourDeltapixel
lol so true this subject will come up again like 50 times in the next month
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#73 R7_3
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MW is much better than WaW, the multiplayer was almost a carbon copy of modern warfare's, but it wasn't as fun, everything on the game was a rip off of modern warfare, from the way they descript the achievements, to how you keep getting saved when it looks like you're gonna die, the main menu screen, the multiplayer. Why didn't Treyarch actually try to come up with something interesting instead of just copying Infinity Wards hard work:evil:
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#74 Helloiseeu
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WaW is what I play more only becuase my COD4 is getting old and overplayed by me. They didn't add much but bloody graphics[GIMIC]and different enviornment. Zombie mode is very entertaining though and even though mnay people say it gets boring I dont think so. Overall, I'd say I had more fun with COD4 because when it was released it had a fresh new feeling to it unlike WaW which feels like a professional mod.
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#75 J_McSpank
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Honestly, let's get this thing stickied, because people are always arguing which one is better....Logan1616

well thats a point of a debate, when you post a debate you should expect people too argue about their opinion

think a bit before you start a thread, eh?

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#76 PS2Dude89
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CoD WaW for sure. The helicopter in CoD4 is way to cheap and the dogs in WaW are much more fair and cooler imo. Other factors that I don't feel like listing as well.
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#77 Logan1616
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[QUOTE="Logan1616"]Honestly, let's get this thing stickied, because people are always arguing which one is better....akai_reaver
I like the thread. But it's not sticky worthy in any way. Sorry buddy.

Haha, I know it won't happen, but I'm American, I have hope even if there's a very, extremely rare and slim chance of it getting stickied.
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[QUOTE="Logan1616"]Honestly, let's get this thing stickied, because people are always arguing which one is better....J_McSpank

well thats a point of a debate, when you post a debate you should expect people too argue about their opinion

think a bit before you start a thread, eh?

That's what I'm saying, it's good that people argue. Debate makes society better.
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#79 Logan1616
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MW is much better than WaW, the multiplayer was almost a carbon copy of modern warfare's, but it wasn't as fun, everything on the game was a rip off of modern warfare, from the way they descript the achievements, to how you keep getting saved when it looks like you're gonna die, the main menu screen, the multiplayer. Why didn't Treyarch actually try to come up with something interesting instead of just copying Infinity Wards hard work:evil:R7_3
Yeah, I feel that way too sometimes. But then I just remember, who started it all? IW did. :D
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#80 ThunderBolts07
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well Waw was my first treyarch game and i liked it but COD 4 is just has great so no contest

ps cant wait till Modern Warfare 2

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#81 Logan1616
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WaW is what I play more only becuase my COD4 is getting old and overplayed by me. They didn't add much but bloody graphics[GIMIC]and different enviornment. Zombie mode is very entertaining though and even though mnay people say it gets boring I dont think so. Overall, I'd say I had more fun with COD4 because when it was released it had a fresh new feeling to it unlike WaW which feels like a professional mod.Helloiseeu
Yeah, I feel the same. WaW is more of the same just with a different layer.
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#82 Logan1616
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CoD WaW for sure. The helicopter in CoD4 is way to cheap and the dogs in WaW are much more fair and cooler imo. Other factors that I don't feel like listing as well.PS2Dude89
Ah, yes. The dogs are much more rewarding and fair, I do agree with that. But still, Treyarch only built off of CoD4's success.
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#83 Logan1616
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Hey you guys, what do you think about the guns in both games as well? Do you like the old school tommy gun or the new school MP5?
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Oh, and another thing I sometimes don't like about World at War is just the tanks. They're awesome, but I'd like more variety of vehicles, because sometimes people just tank whore.
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#85 Logan1616
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Over 150 votes, keep it going!
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[QUOTE="Logan1616"] I KNOW THAT. But the gun didn't fire like that in CoD4. In CoD4 the MP44, same thing as STG-44, fired faster. I'm not sure why though. Why are you complaining though, in your GT it says you last played CoD4.... By the way, what is your K/D ratio?Rehehelly

I did last play CoD 4, I prefer it over CoD WaW (although I only have experience of the BETA). Not interested in WW2 as i've played about 1000 WW2 shooters, multiplayer seemed the same aswell, although war was more fun than domination.

I am complaining because about 10 of these threads appear every week. Comparing the two games, why not just stick with the game you prefer. It's like comparing FIFA and Pro Evo. According to Major Nelson more people are playing WaW than CoD 4 so it must be doing something right.

And it's about 1.05. Just got to level 53 today so, i'm still fairly new :)

I wouldn't say it's like comparing Fifa and Pro Evo, because those are two different series'. BOth COD's come from the same series, and one built off the success of another, CoD: WaW basically copied CoD4, so I don't think you can say it's a comparison of Fifa-Pro Evo. Also, the actual game of WaW is better than the beta, and you should try it out none the less.
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#87 Logan1616
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Cod4. IW actually did something new by bringing it up to current weapons that are interesting and fun to use. Treyarch just went back to the same old boring stuff that we've already played a thousand times and better.FalcoLX
Good point. That's one of the things I dislike in WaW as well.
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It's a debate you guys, not an argument. They're different. Both sides can bring up details and arguments they'd like to make and both sides can refute. To those who don't like these threads, don't post. There's your solution. Onto the point though, which is better?Logan1616

a debate is an arguement man. one side against the other. its an arguement to prove that one side is better than the other. and that is what this is.ive noticed that everytime someone says call of duty w@w you try to tear them down and say cod4 is better. in your opinion you like cod4, good for you it was a good game,but you dont like w@w, why because infinity ward didnt make it. but uses the same features

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every COD has built off the success of the previous entry. thats what sequels do. So why does eveyrone keep saying that like its a bad thing. other than the perk system and new setting COD4 was a copy of 3, just like 3 was a copy of 2, and 2 was a copy of 1. and MW2 will build off the success of both WaW and MW and it will be a copy of both. Especially if they include some zombie mini game like everyone is wanting
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every COD has built off the success of the previous entry. thats what sequels do. So why does eveyrone keep saying that like its a bad thing. other than the perk system and new setting COD4 was a copy of 3, just like 3 was a copy of 2, and 2 was a copy of 1. and MW2 will build off the success of both WaW and MW and it will be a copy of both. Especially if they include some zombie mini game like everyone is wantingceells87
The only thing 4 really took was the classes really, and even then they totally revamped them. To me, CoD: WaW seems just like a CoD4 ice cream sundae except with chocolate ice cream, strawberry whipped cream, and instead of a cherry on top, it has a nice raspberry. lol
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#91 Logan1616
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[QUOTE="Logan1616"]It's a debate you guys, not an argument. They're different. Both sides can bring up details and arguments they'd like to make and both sides can refute. To those who don't like these threads, don't post. There's your solution. Onto the point though, which is better?patrickhorta87

a debate is an arguement man. one side against the other. its an arguement to prove that one side is better than the other. and that is what this is.ive noticed that everytime someone says call of duty w@w you try to tear them down and say cod4 is better. in your opinion you like cod4, good for you it was a good game,but you dont like w@w, why because infinity ward didnt make it. but uses the same features

No, I like it, not as much as CoD4 though. Plus, you're wrong. A debate is a meeting of intellectuals to discuss a topic. But, arguments are made within an actual debate.
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[QUOTE="ceells87"]every COD has built off the success of the previous entry. thats what sequels do. So why does eveyrone keep saying that like its a bad thing. other than the perk system and new setting COD4 was a copy of 3, just like 3 was a copy of 2, and 2 was a copy of 1. and MW2 will build off the success of both WaW and MW and it will be a copy of both. Especially if they include some zombie mini game like everyone is wantingLogan1616
The only thing 4 really took was the classes really, and even then they totally revamped them. To me, CoD: WaW seems just like a CoD4 ice cream sundae except with chocolate ice cream, strawberry whipped cream, and instead of a cherry on top, it has a nice raspberry. lol

once again thats what a sequel is. what if treyarch actually had stuck with MW. Then you would be the exact same thing as well and IW would be making MW3 and we'd be stuck with just another modern setting shooter. there isnt a single WW2 game that plays or looks as good as WaW, not even COD2 made by IW. instead Treyarch took what worked in 4 and took COD back to its roots and did it very well. No one here has given legitamit reasons why they dont like the multiplayer or the single player other than the fact that its not MW. Thats everyones only reason. and if thats their opinion thats fine and i know plenty who have the same but that doesnt make it a better game in an argument. 4 had glitches and campers just like WaW has. The only difference is that IW has had time to fix most of them and thats why we dont see them anymore. Given time Treyarch will do the same. All MW2 is going to be is strawberry icecream, on the same kind of cone or cup with caramel, chocolate whipcream, and a blueberry.
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#93 Logan1616
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[QUOTE="Logan1616"][QUOTE="ceells87"]every COD has built off the success of the previous entry. thats what sequels do. So why does eveyrone keep saying that like its a bad thing. other than the perk system and new setting COD4 was a copy of 3, just like 3 was a copy of 2, and 2 was a copy of 1. and MW2 will build off the success of both WaW and MW and it will be a copy of both. Especially if they include some zombie mini game like everyone is wantingceells87
The only thing 4 really took was the classes really, and even then they totally revamped them. To me, CoD: WaW seems just like a CoD4 ice cream sundae except with chocolate ice cream, strawberry whipped cream, and instead of a cherry on top, it has a nice raspberry. lol

once again thats what a sequel is. what if treyarch actually had stuck with MW. Then you would be the exact same thing as well and IW would be making MW3 and we'd be stuck with just another modern setting shooter. there isnt a single WW2 game that plays or looks as good as WaW, not even COD2 made by IW. instead Treyarch took what worked in 4 and took COD back to its roots and did it very well. No one here has given legitamit reasons why they dont like the multiplayer or the single player other than the fact that its not MW. Thats everyones only reason. and if thats their opinion thats fine and i know plenty who have the same but that doesnt make it a better game in an argument. 4 had glitches and campers just like WaW has. The only difference is that IW has had time to fix most of them and thats why we dont see them anymore. Given time Treyarch will do the same. All MW2 is going to be is strawberry icecream, on the same kind of cone or cup with caramel, chocolate whipcream, and a blueberry.

Legit reasons? -Unbalanced weapons. (In my opinion, may/may not be true) -The maps don't play to all players gamestyles, some are too large for their own good. -Glitchers, many more bugs in WaW. Will get fixed no doubt, but annoying at the moment. -Bolt Actions not 1 shot kill with stopping power, seems very unreasonable to me. -Tank Whoring -Map Variety. There aren't many specific maps. There are a lot of open, city maps. -Menus aren't organized and there's more of a hassle when dealnig through all the menus in WaW. What I'm trying to say is this. The degree at which WaW copied a lot of CoD4 is very high. CoD4 didn't take CoD3's features and copy them to that high of a degree. Of course, Infinity Ward will be off their own success from CoD2 and CoD. But Treyarch took from IW's success, which in my mind seems unfair. I just want them to come up with their own brilliant game. Plus, after CoD: MW2, I expect Treyarch to go crazy and put it in future warfare. But who knows...
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#94 ceells87
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[QUOTE="ceells87"][QUOTE="Logan1616"] The only thing 4 really took was the classes really, and even then they totally revamped them. To me, CoD: WaW seems just like a CoD4 ice cream sundae except with chocolate ice cream, strawberry whipped cream, and instead of a cherry on top, it has a nice raspberry. lolLogan1616
once again thats what a sequel is. what if treyarch actually had stuck with MW. Then you would be the exact same thing as well and IW would be making MW3 and we'd be stuck with just another modern setting shooter. there isnt a single WW2 game that plays or looks as good as WaW, not even COD2 made by IW. instead Treyarch took what worked in 4 and took COD back to its roots and did it very well. No one here has given legitamit reasons why they dont like the multiplayer or the single player other than the fact that its not MW. Thats everyones only reason. and if thats their opinion thats fine and i know plenty who have the same but that doesnt make it a better game in an argument. 4 had glitches and campers just like WaW has. The only difference is that IW has had time to fix most of them and thats why we dont see them anymore. Given time Treyarch will do the same. All MW2 is going to be is strawberry icecream, on the same kind of cone or cup with caramel, chocolate whipcream, and a blueberry.

Legit reasons? -Unbalanced weapons. (In my opinion, may/may not be true) -The maps don't play to all players gamestyles, some are too large for their own good. -Glitchers, many more bugs in WaW. Will get fixed no doubt, but annoying at the moment. -Bolt Actions not 1 shot kill with stopping power, seems very unreasonable to me. -Tank Whoring -Map Variety. There aren't many specific maps. There are a lot of open, city maps. -Menus aren't organized and there's more of a hassle when dealnig through all the menus in WaW. What I'm trying to say is this. The degree at which WaW copied a lot of CoD4 is very high. CoD4 didn't take CoD3's features and copy them to that high of a degree. Of course, Infinity Ward will be off their own success from CoD2 and CoD. But Treyarch took from IW's success, which in my mind seems unfair. I just want them to come up with their own brilliant game. Plus, after CoD: MW2, I expect Treyarch to go crazy and put it in future warfare. But who knows...

dude Treyarch had no choice but to build off of MW. Activision is the one paying them and the only reason they can make COD games. if they said "hey we dont want to do that because it is copying a successful game" do you really think activision would have given them the right to make WaW. as for your reasons -COD4's weapons are just as unbalanced by what your saying. -COD4's maps dont cater to every gamers play style and some are too small for their own good. and if they dont cater to your playstyle then maybe you should try adapting instead of thinking it should fit your need -the glitchers when COD4 came out were just as annoying -Sniper rifles like the Barrett .50 cal arent one hit kills which is far more unreasonable -tanks arent hard to kill if you actually try and dotn run away -there are specific maps since they arent all the same -and the menu is EXACTELY the same as MW. I mean 100% the same. What you need to realize is that Treyarch CANNOT go out and make their own brilliant COD game. IW made MW because Activision liked the idea and allowed them to roll with it. Thats the only reason we have it now. Its business and money rules all especially when a company owns the right to a particular series
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[QUOTE="Logan1616"][QUOTE="ceells87"] once again thats what a sequel is. what if treyarch actually had stuck with MW. Then you would be the exact same thing as well and IW would be making MW3 and we'd be stuck with just another modern setting shooter. there isnt a single WW2 game that plays or looks as good as WaW, not even COD2 made by IW. instead Treyarch took what worked in 4 and took COD back to its roots and did it very well. No one here has given legitamit reasons why they dont like the multiplayer or the single player other than the fact that its not MW. Thats everyones only reason. and if thats their opinion thats fine and i know plenty who have the same but that doesnt make it a better game in an argument. 4 had glitches and campers just like WaW has. The only difference is that IW has had time to fix most of them and thats why we dont see them anymore. Given time Treyarch will do the same. All MW2 is going to be is strawberry icecream, on the same kind of cone or cup with caramel, chocolate whipcream, and a blueberry. ceells87
Legit reasons? -Unbalanced weapons. (In my opinion, may/may not be true) -The maps don't play to all players gamestyles, some are too large for their own good. -Glitchers, many more bugs in WaW. Will get fixed no doubt, but annoying at the moment. -Bolt Actions not 1 shot kill with stopping power, seems very unreasonable to me. -Tank Whoring -Map Variety. There aren't many specific maps. There are a lot of open, city maps. -Menus aren't organized and there's more of a hassle when dealnig through all the menus in WaW. What I'm trying to say is this. The degree at which WaW copied a lot of CoD4 is very high. CoD4 didn't take CoD3's features and copy them to that high of a degree. Of course, Infinity Ward will be off their own success from CoD2 and CoD. But Treyarch took from IW's success, which in my mind seems unfair. I just want them to come up with their own brilliant game. Plus, after CoD: MW2, I expect Treyarch to go crazy and put it in future warfare. But who knows...

dude Treyarch had no choice but to build off of MW. Activision is the one paying them and the only reason they can make COD games. if they said "hey we dont want to do that because it is copying a successful game" do you really think activision would have given them the right to make WaW. as for your reasons -COD4's weapons are just as unbalanced by what your saying. -COD4's maps dont cater to every gamers play style and some are too small for their own good. and if they dont cater to your playstyle then maybe you should try adapting instead of thinking it should fit your need -the glitchers when COD4 came out were just as annoying -Sniper rifles like the Barrett .50 cal arent one hit kills which is far more unreasonable -tanks arent hard to kill if you actually try and dotn run away -there are specific maps since they arent all the same -and the menu is EXACTELY the same as MW. I mean 100% the same. What you need to realize is that Treyarch CANNOT go out and make their own brilliant COD game. IW made MW because Activision liked the idea and allowed them to roll with it. Thats the only reason we have it now. Its business and money rules all especially when a company owns the right to a particular series

I know they were going to use CoD4's success. I'm not denying that. I'm just saying I'm mad about it personally, just venting. Calm Down, will ya? Also -Yes, the guns aren't balanced in both games, agreed. -I do adapt, and if you're saying vacant can't cater to playstyles, you're wrong. I've played as a sniper, Light Machine Gunner, Assault User, Stealth, Shotty user, and SMG user. It all works and I've down fine. -People couldn't get under CoD4 maps, and the glitches were actually easy to avoid. For example in Amubsh when you can jump onto the ledge and get into that destroyed building, you can still kill them. It's hard to kill people who are under a map. -I don't use the .50 cal much, but for me when I use it in addition to stopping power it always kills in one hit. -I'm not saying the tanks aren't hard to kill, I never made that argument. I made the argument that it's annoying that one person ALWAYS uses a tank on a map. -CoD4 has more varied maps. -Not exactly the same, because there aren't camo skins for your guns in CoD: WaW. It feels more clustered to me, PERSONALLY. CoD4 > CoD: WaW still. Gamerankings, over 100 reviews, and the general gaming population prefer CoD4.
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[QUOTE="ceells87"][QUOTE="Logan1616"] Legit reasons? -Unbalanced weapons. (In my opinion, may/may not be true) -The maps don't play to all players gamestyles, some are too large for their own good. -Glitchers, many more bugs in WaW. Will get fixed no doubt, but annoying at the moment. -Bolt Actions not 1 shot kill with stopping power, seems very unreasonable to me. -Tank Whoring -Map Variety. There aren't many specific maps. There are a lot of open, city maps. -Menus aren't organized and there's more of a hassle when dealnig through all the menus in WaW. What I'm trying to say is this. The degree at which WaW copied a lot of CoD4 is very high. CoD4 didn't take CoD3's features and copy them to that high of a degree. Of course, Infinity Ward will be off their own success from CoD2 and CoD. But Treyarch took from IW's success, which in my mind seems unfair. I just want them to come up with their own brilliant game. Plus, after CoD: MW2, I expect Treyarch to go crazy and put it in future warfare. But who knows...Logan1616
dude Treyarch had no choice but to build off of MW. Activision is the one paying them and the only reason they can make COD games. if they said "hey we dont want to do that because it is copying a successful game" do you really think activision would have given them the right to make WaW. as for your reasons -COD4's weapons are just as unbalanced by what your saying. -COD4's maps dont cater to every gamers play style and some are too small for their own good. and if they dont cater to your playstyle then maybe you should try adapting instead of thinking it should fit your need -the glitchers when COD4 came out were just as annoying -Sniper rifles like the Barrett .50 cal arent one hit kills which is far more unreasonable -tanks arent hard to kill if you actually try and dotn run away -there are specific maps since they arent all the same -and the menu is EXACTELY the same as MW. I mean 100% the same. What you need to realize is that Treyarch CANNOT go out and make their own brilliant COD game. IW made MW because Activision liked the idea and allowed them to roll with it. Thats the only reason we have it now. Its business and money rules all especially when a company owns the right to a particular series

I know they were going to use CoD4's success. I'm not denying that. I'm just saying I'm mad about it personally, just venting. Calm Down, will ya? Also -Yes, the guns aren't balanced in both games, agreed. -I do adapt, and if you're saying vacant can't cater to playstyles, you're wrong. I've played as a sniper, Light Machine Gunner, Assault User, Stealth, Shotty user, and SMG user. It all works and I've down fine. -People couldn't get under CoD4 maps, and the glitches were actually easy to avoid. For example in Amubsh when you can jump onto the ledge and get into that destroyed building, you can still kill them. It's hard to kill people who are under a map. -I don't use the .50 cal much, but for me when I use it in addition to stopping power it always kills in one hit. -I'm not saying the tanks aren't hard to kill, I never made that argument. I made the argument that it's annoying that one person ALWAYS uses a tank on a map. -CoD4 has more varied maps. -Not exactly the same, because there aren't camo skins for your guns in CoD: WaW. It feels more clustered to me, PERSONALLY. CoD4 > CoD: WaW still. Gamerankings, over 100 reviews, and the general gaming population prefer CoD4.

your very lucky then cause my friends and i know how to get under most of the maps in COD4. its what we do. We look for them and then when we find them we figure out a way to deal with them. and your the one who said they didnt cater to everyones play style. I have every class set up in my perks for WaW and can go positive by switching them everytime i die on anymap. and you should be happy one person always gets in a tank unless your the one that wanted the tank. it means a free kill. as for the .50 cal, your right when i used it i could get a one hit kill almost everytime as well but we arent talking about our own personal shots, you were talking about the one hit kills in general. and if the camo skins is the only difference in the menus that you dont like thats fine but dont go and make it seems like the menus are horrible and so different like you have been whether you intended it or not. And be mad at activision not treyarch. im sure if they said "hey treyarch we want you to make something amazing and original" they wouldnt pass up the chance. over a 100 reviews isnt even a small portion of the COD fan base so im sorry if i dont agree with 100 people and their opinions but thats doesnt make them right to say COD4 is better. For them yes, as a game thats not for us to decide nor do we have the understanding of all the areas to decide. and i wasnt getting upset or anyhting, the only reasons i capped those words was for them to be the focus in that sentence. sorry if it came off as me getting pissy.
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I think that CoD 4 Modern Warfare completly wins in story and wepon wise, but in CoD World at War the overall mechanic and graphics excede that of CoD Modern Warfare. All in all ive played CoD Modern Warfare's campaign four times, Ive only played CoD World at War twice because of the lack of enjoyment in the second runthrough I stopped playing. There is one thing that I favor CoD World at War over CoD Modern Warfare, and that is ZOMBIES! That's the only edge I think that CoD World at War has on CoD Modern Warfare.
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[QUOTE="Logan1616"][QUOTE="ceells87"] dude Treyarch had no choice but to build off of MW. Activision is the one paying them and the only reason they can make COD games. if they said "hey we dont want to do that because it is copying a successful game" do you really think activision would have given them the right to make WaW. as for your reasons -COD4's weapons are just as unbalanced by what your saying. -COD4's maps dont cater to every gamers play style and some are too small for their own good. and if they dont cater to your playstyle then maybe you should try adapting instead of thinking it should fit your need -the glitchers when COD4 came out were just as annoying -Sniper rifles like the Barrett .50 cal arent one hit kills which is far more unreasonable -tanks arent hard to kill if you actually try and dotn run away -there are specific maps since they arent all the same -and the menu is EXACTELY the same as MW. I mean 100% the same. What you need to realize is that Treyarch CANNOT go out and make their own brilliant COD game. IW made MW because Activision liked the idea and allowed them to roll with it. Thats the only reason we have it now. Its business and money rules all especially when a company owns the right to a particular seriesceells87
I know they were going to use CoD4's success. I'm not denying that. I'm just saying I'm mad about it personally, just venting. Calm Down, will ya? Also -Yes, the guns aren't balanced in both games, agreed. -I do adapt, and if you're saying vacant can't cater to playstyles, you're wrong. I've played as a sniper, Light Machine Gunner, Assault User, Stealth, Shotty user, and SMG user. It all works and I've down fine. -People couldn't get under CoD4 maps, and the glitches were actually easy to avoid. For example in Amubsh when you can jump onto the ledge and get into that destroyed building, you can still kill them. It's hard to kill people who are under a map. -I don't use the .50 cal much, but for me when I use it in addition to stopping power it always kills in one hit. -I'm not saying the tanks aren't hard to kill, I never made that argument. I made the argument that it's annoying that one person ALWAYS uses a tank on a map. -CoD4 has more varied maps. -Not exactly the same, because there aren't camo skins for your guns in CoD: WaW. It feels more clustered to me, PERSONALLY. CoD4 > CoD: WaW still. Gamerankings, over 100 reviews, and the general gaming population prefer CoD4.

your very lucky then cause my friends and i know how to get under most of the maps in COD4. its what we do. We look for them and then when we find them we figure out a way to deal with them. and your the one who said they didnt cater to everyones play style. I have every class set up in my perks for WaW and can go positive by switching them everytime i die on anymap. and you should be happy one person always gets in a tank unless your the one that wanted the tank. it means a free kill. as for the .50 cal, your right when i used it i could get a one hit kill almost everytime as well but we arent talking about our own personal shots, you were talking about the one hit kills in general. and if the camo skins is the only difference in the menus that you dont like thats fine but dont go and make it seems like the menus are horrible and so different like you have been whether you intended it or not. And be mad at activision not treyarch. im sure if they said "hey treyarch we want you to make something amazing and original" they wouldnt pass up the chance. over a 100 reviews isnt even a small portion of the COD fan base so im sorry if i dont agree with 100 people and their opinions but thats doesnt make them right to say COD4 is better. For them yes, as a game thats not for us to decide nor do we have the understanding of all the areas to decide. and i wasnt getting upset or anyhting, the only reasons i capped those words was for them to be the focus in that sentence. sorry if it came off as me getting pissy.

This post of ours is getting too long, honestly...lol But, the menus just feel un organized to me. I don't know what it is, it's just that they do. We can go on all day, like people said, but whatever. Don't worry about getting pissy, I'm actually on my debate team at my high school and in real debates we can actually say like the other team (you debate other teams, 2 people each, and most tournaments are 4 or more rounds, I can get in the details more if you want, just PM me) and you can get mad and stuff. That's why I love debate, because it's just fun to argue and stand up for what you believe in. CoD: WaW is a great game. I love WWII stuff, I love their gun selection, and they make for a pretty realistic and depict WWII very well. But in the end, I just like CoD4 more, mostly because it's a more cinematic experience and I've gotten a lot out of it.
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I think that CoD 4 Modern Warfare completly wins in story and wepon wise, but in CoD World at War the overall mechanic and graphics excede that of CoD Modern Warfare. All in all ive played CoD Modern Warfare's campaign four times, Ive only played CoD World at War twice because of the lack of enjoyment in the second runthrough I stopped playing. There is one thing that I favor CoD World at War over CoD Modern Warfare, and that is ZOMBIES! That's the only edge I think that CoD World at War has on CoD Modern Warfare.cokecanw00t
I can't agree with you on graphics, Modern Warfare has a total epic and cinematic experience, and CoD4's graphics exceed WaW's.
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#100 cokecanw00t
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Hey you guys, what do you think about the guns in both games as well? Do you like the old school tommy gun or the new school MP5?Logan1616
I prefer CoD Modern Warfare, but I do like the (old school tommygun) substantially more than the MP5.