Shadowrun 6.9? I've lost all faith in Gamespot's Reviews.

Shadowrun is absolutely the best time I've had online with my 360.  Jeff held the game to standards that others are not (Did Counterstrike Source recieve critisizms for not having a singleplayer mode?  Nope.)  He also said 'You'll see evertyhing there is to see in 2 or 3 hours... nothing could be further from the truth.  It would take a player weeks or months to experiment with the powers and try all the differnt character buidls this wonderful game affords. 

I am a fan of the orignial Pencil and Paper game, as well as the classic Genesis and SNES games, and see this game as a very strong entry to the franchise. Don't judge based on Jeff''s cynical review... try the demo next week and judge for yourself.  Shadowrun is truly innovative and deserves a MUCH higher score than 6.9.  I was expecting no less than a 9 here.  I guess opinions are like A-Holes :(

Shadowrun is absolutely the best time I've had online with my 360. Jeff held the game to standards that others are not (Did Counterstrike Source recieve critisizms for not having a singleplayer mode? Nope.) He also said 'You'll see evertyhing there is to see in 2 or 3 hours... nothing could be further from the truth. It would take a player weeks or months to experiment with the powers and try all the differnt character buidls this wonderful game affords.

I am a fan of the orignial Pencil and Paper game, as well as the classic Genesis and SNES games, and see this game as a very strong entry to the franchise. Don't judge based on Jeff''s cynical review... try the demo next week and judge for yourself. Shadowrun is truly innovative and deserves a MUCH higher score than 6.9. I was expecting no less than a 9 here. I guess opinions are like A-Holes :(

donalbane

Yeh i will be checking the demo out and decide weather or not to get it from that, although i think i will get it any way 

Shadowrun is absolutely the best time I've had online with my 360. Jeff held the game to standards that others are not (Did Counterstrike Source recieve critisizms for not having a singleplayer mode? Nope.) He also said 'You'll see evertyhing there is to see in 2 or 3 hours... nothing could be further from the truth. It would take a player weeks or months to experiment with the powers and try all the differnt character buidls this wonderful game affords.

I am a fan of the orignial Pencil and Paper game, as well as the classic Genesis and SNES games, and see this game as a very strong entry to the franchise. Don't judge based on Jeff''s cynical review... try the demo next week and judge for yourself. Shadowrun is truly innovative and deserves a MUCH higher score than 6.9. I was expecting no less than a 9 here. I guess opinions are like A-Holes :(

donalbane

The "pay counter-strikes" that came later (zero, standalone CS:source), although they were multiplayer only, they had enough content to have a full retail price. Not a point on quality, a point on quantity... the game may be fun but its in no way shape or form worth full retail price.

 If you want standards, go look at chromehounds for the sheer amount of mutliplayer content in provides (even had space to throw in an appalling singeplayer campaign which will take you longer to get through than it would for you to tour every map in shadowrun).

The score is a mark on quality of content as well as the fun of gameplay.. the gameplay as you say may be fun but the content... :P

Lots of other threads on this?  Why create a new one.

Your Shadowrun defense is getting frantic.  If it is so fun, why are you bothering?  You way overpaid for a mediocre game, get over it and move on. 

Counter-Strike doesn't get any criticisms for not having SP because it comes FREE with one of the best SP FPS games out there, Half-Life... :roll:gintheplacetobe

Not to mention CS:S is also a MUCH better online game. :roll: 

It's an accurate score. CS/DOD/etc are/were FREE!!!!!!!! 60 bucks for a game that isn't even as deep as those two is insane. This game is NOT worth the money, period. It's decent, and a 6.9 is a fair score. If you like shadowrun, great. We really don't care if you didn't like Jeffy's review.YoshiFrag

While a lack of maps cuts into the game's value somewhat, Day of Defeat: Source still offers a satisfying and exciting experience for those who just can't get enough of World War II.

The Bad: Only four maps at launch; some odd balancing issues between kits.

4 maps, weaker gameplay than the original and score: 8.1. There is something for you to think. Gamespot does NOT review prices, they review how good the game is/isn't. I dont own shadowrun, but that review is a fiasco. That guy cant review a game if he thinks a ladder animation is a big downfall. They cant have proper animations for ladder because the gameplay is so fast from what i have seen, it would look sillyer than just floating em up (á la cs).

[QUOTE="YoshiFrag"]It's an accurate score. CS/DOD/etc are/were FREE!!!!!!!! 60 bucks for a game that isn't even as deep as those two is insane. This game is NOT worth the money, period. It's decent, and a 6.9 is a fair score. If you like shadowrun, great. We really don't care if you didn't like Jeffy's review.eletsi

While a lack of maps cuts into the game's value somewhat, Day of Defeat: Source still offers a satisfying and exciting experience for those who just can't get enough of World War II.

The Bad:Only four maps at launch; some odd balancing issues between kits.

4 maps, weaker gameplay than the original and score: 8.1. There is something for you to think. Gamespot does NOT review prices, they review how good the game is/isn't. I dont own shadowrun, but that review is a fiasco. That guy cant review a game if he thinks a ladder animation is a big downfall. They cant have proper animations for latter because the gameplay is so fast from what i have seen, it would look sillyer than just floating em up (á la cs).

You don't own the game, so I don't much care what you have to say about the review tbh. I do own it, and I feel it's accurate. The gameplay is subservient to that of DOD:S CS:S. The gameplay isn't even that fast, it's just run, spam skills, shoot. Oh, and you throw a tree or spikey wall every once and a while, glide from time to time, and teleport through walls. The animations are pretty weak, and it should count against its presentation. It's just another example of how they cut corners, like the lack of maps and gameplay modes... oh, and the lack of a single player mode (training that can be done in an hour and bot matches single player does not make). It's most certainly NOT worth 60 bucks imo, and it was barely worth 45 for me.

There you have it. You wrote that in what, 2 mins? And you have a better review of the game than the GS review. Grats. Still waiting for the demo :]eletsi

I'm not saying the game isn't decent... it's just rediculous that they want to charge full price for it.. and then I'm sure they'll charge for dlc later... it's a big rip :) But yeah, if you have any patience at all (I don't ;)) wait for the demo... you just might love it :)

Counter-Strike doesn't get any criticisms for not having SP because it comes FREE with one of the best SP FPS games out there, Half-Life... :roll:gintheplacetobe

[QUOTE="donalbane"]

Shadowrun is absolutely the best time I've had online with my 360. Jeff held the game to standards that others are not (Did Counterstrike Source recieve critisizms for not having a singleplayer mode? Nope.) He also said 'You'll see evertyhing there is to see in 2 or 3 hours... nothing could be further from the truth. It would take a player weeks or months to experiment with the powers and try all the differnt character buidls this wonderful game affords.

I am a fan of the orignial Pencil and Paper game, as well as the classic Genesis and SNES games, and see this game as a very strong entry to the franchise. Don't judge based on Jeff''s cynical review... try the demo next week and judge for yourself. Shadowrun is truly innovative and deserves a MUCH higher score than 6.9. I was expecting no less than a 9 here. I guess opinions are like A-Holes :(

zero9167

Battlefield 2 was not released at $40. It was released at the standard price of $50. I would also like to mention that Counter Strike Source was *not* free. As you pointed out, it came packaged with Half Life 2, which cost $50. Personally, and for many other players as well, it was Counter Strike Source that cost $50 and Half Life 2 that came with it free. Sure, arguing semantics here, but the point is the same.

Lots of other threads on this?  Why create a new one.

 

Your Shadowrun defense is getting frantic.  If it is so fun, why are you bothering?  You way overpaid for a mediocre game, get over it and move on. 

DeepCoalMiner

[QUOTE="gintheplacetobe"]Counter-Strike doesn't get any criticisms for not having SP because it comes FREE with one of the best SP FPS games out there, Half-Life... :roll:BeErBOnG29

Not to mention CS:S is also a MUCH better online game. :roll: 

Shadowrun is absolutely the best time I've had online with my 360.  Jeff held the game to standards that others are not (Did Counterstrike Source recieve critisizms for not having a singleplayer mode?  Nope.)  He also said 'You'll see evertyhing there is to see in 2 or 3 hours... nothing could be further from the truth.  It would take a player weeks or months to experiment with the powers and try all the differnt character buidls this wonderful game affords. 

I am a fan of the orignial Pencil and Paper game, as well as the classic Genesis and SNES games, and see this game as a very strong entry to the franchise. Don't judge based on Jeff''s cynical review... try the demo next week and judge for yourself.  Shadowrun is truly innovative and deserves a MUCH higher score than 6.9.  I was expecting no less than a 9 here.  I guess opinions are like A-Holes :(

donalbane

I love how most of you people think you know everything about this game, and that it's so bad, yet it isn't on your XBL Gamercard, :| Your opinions are moot if you've yet to play it. This game is above average, and I would have gladly paid more than $60 for it. It's better than overrated stuff like Gears.BioShockOwnz

You're arguing with his score, not neccessarily the points he made in his review...

If you would go over these the only way you can disagree with his points is if you're an outright fanboy.

Shadowrun is absolutely the best time I've had online with my 360.  Jeff held the game to standards that others are not (Did Counterstrike Source recieve critisizms for not having a singleplayer mode?  Nope.)  He also said 'You'll see evertyhing there is to see in 2 or 3 hours... nothing could be further from the truth.  It would take a player weeks or months to experiment with the powers and try all the differnt character buidls this wonderful game affords. 

I am a fan of the orignial Pencil and Paper game, as well as the classic Genesis and SNES games, and see this game as a very strong entry to the franchise. Don't judge based on Jeff''s cynical review... try the demo next week and judge for yourself.  Shadowrun is truly innovative and deserves a MUCH higher score than 6.9.  I was expecting no less than a 9 here.  I guess opinions are like A-Holes :(

donalbane

Counter Strike didn't sell for $60 and with 9 maps

[QUOTE="DeepCoalMiner"]

Lots of other threads on this?  Why create a new one.

 

Your Shadowrun defense is getting frantic.  If it is so fun, why are you bothering?  You way overpaid for a mediocre game, get over it and move on. 

donalbane

[QUOTE="gintheplacetobe"]Counter-Strike doesn't get any criticisms for not having SP because it comes FREE with one of the best SP FPS games out there, Half-Life... :roll:BeErBOnG29

Not to mention CS:S is also a MUCH better online game. :roll: 

I'm not saying I agree with the review. I haven't played Shadowrun so I can't comment on that. Just pointing out that a lack of SP isn't a weakness for CS when it comes packed with an amazing SP FPS...

You're arguing with his score, not neccessarily the points he made in his review...

If you would go over these the only way you can disagree with his points is if you're an outright fanboy.

fore_runner

Most reviewers have become jaded, because they've played so many games, and they expect too much out of a game.  

I just hope that doesn't review Halo 3 because i bet he would give it a score lower than 9 akuna2006

Counter-Strike doesn't get any criticisms for not having SP because it comes FREE with one of the best SP FPS games out there, Half-Life... :roll:gintheplacetobe

i didnt get the original Counter Strike when I bought Half Life Anthology, just crappy Team Fortress, what gives? 

Counter-Strike doesn't get any criticisms for not having SP because it comes FREE with one of the best SP FPS games out there, Half-Life... :roll:gintheplacetobe

Ain't that the truth! Still, I'll be checking out the demo as well since I never put too much stock in GS reviews. I just like to read them is all. 

[QUOTE="YoshiFrag"]It's an accurate score. CS/DOD/etc are/were FREE!!!!!!!! 60 bucks for a game that isn't even as deep as those two is insane. This game is NOT worth the money, period. It's decent, and a 6.9 is a fair score. If you like shadowrun, great. We really don't care if you didn't like Jeffy's review.eletsi

While a lack of maps cuts into the game's value somewhat, Day of Defeat: Source still offers a satisfying and exciting experience for those who just can't get enough of World War II.

The Bad:Only four maps at launch; some odd balancing issues between kits.

4 maps, weaker gameplay than the original and score: 8.1. There is something for you to think. Gamespot does NOT review prices, they review how good the game is/isn't. I dont own shadowrun, but that review is a fiasco. That guy cant review a game if he thinks a ladder animation is a big downfall. They cant have proper animations for ladder because the gameplay is so fast from what i have seen, it would look sillyer than just floating em up (á la cs).

Why is it such a big deal? Do you feel offended that a game you enjoy gets an average/good rating? This is what Jeff thought of the game compared to what he has played before and what he expects from games like Shadowrun and in the end it is only his opinion. An educated opinion but still an opinion. Stop complaining about what a reviewer says, if you the like the game then by all means play Shadowrun and get over this temper tantrum.CooVee

OP I'm with you. Jeff is a hypocrite and has no business reviewing games. SR is by far one of the most fun MP games I've ever had the privilage of playing. AA quality indeed. If garbage like gears can pull off a 9.6 with hardly any content, why is this game bashed for the same damn thing.
ninjaxams

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]OP I'm with you. Jeff is a hypocrite and has no business reviewing games. SR is by far one of the most fun MP games I've ever had the privilage of playing. AA quality indeed. If garbage like gears can pull off a 9.6 with hardly any content, why is this game bashed for the same damn thing.
_Live4HIM13_

I guess opinions are like A-Holes :(donalbane

Everyone has one and thinks that everyone else's stinks! :wink:

Edit: Actually, I'm heading out in about 30 minutes to pick it up, regardless of what the reviews say. See ya online!

[QUOTE="DeepCoalMiner"]

Lots of other threads on this? Why create a new one.

 

Your Shadowrun defense is getting frantic. If it is so fun, why are you bothering? You way overpaid for a mediocre game, get over it and move on.

donalbane

[QUOTE="gintheplacetobe"]Counter-Strike doesn't get any criticisms for not having SP because it comes FREE with one of the best SP FPS games out there, Half-Life... :roll:BeErBOnG29

Not to mention CS:S is also a MUCH better online game. :roll:

[QUOTE="_Live4HIM13_"][QUOTE="ninjaxams"]OP I'm with you. Jeff is a hypocrite and has no business reviewing games. SR is by far one of the most fun MP games I've ever had the privilage of playing. AA quality indeed. If garbage like gears can pull off a 9.6 with hardly any content, why is this game bashed for the same damn thing.
ninjaxams

Lots of other threads on this?  Why create a new one.

 

Your Shadowrun defense is getting frantic.  If it is so fun, why are you bothering?  You way overpaid for a mediocre game, get over it and move on. 

DeepCoalMiner

That's something only someone who hasn't played the game would say.  you are SO WRONG.  The game is not mediocre in any way, and is well worth the money.  Best online experience to date, hands down.

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="_Live4HIM13_"][QUOTE="ninjaxams"]OP I'm with you. Jeff is a hypocrite and has no business reviewing games. SR is by far one of the most fun MP games I've ever had the privilage of playing. AA quality indeed. If garbage like gears can pull off a 9.6 with hardly any content, why is this game bashed for the same damn thing.
TOSgamer10

I have shadowrun and i enjoy it quite a bit. While i don't personally think this game deserved anything above a 9 i feel maybe in the 7 range at the least but hey thats my opinion. If you are dogging this game and haven't even played it yet then your opinion is automatically invalid because its not simple enough to draw a conclusion from someone else's opinion then to form an opinion of your own.themexican201

There are people on both side of the isle, those who say they love or hate it, who have yet to play it. It is not only people who haven't played it that are hating on it. I have it, and it's very average imo. a 7 is a perfect score, as that's the threshold between an average and a good game. (Since 7-7.9 = Good) I think the overall score is near perfect.

I don't understand why u like so much this game......it's nothing special....u just run like a stupid n00b and kill....nothing more.....but not just that.......the guys from Gamespot are experts in reviews so don't blame them because they know how a game is and what score should  they give to one.

What score u expect???......10??.:lol: