Halo 3 is so much better than HL Orange Box

[QUOTE="NineDaysWonder"]Halo 3 was a joke... Halo 2 is even worse. I beat Halo in a day and when I finished I was like... Seriously? This is what they have been working on for so long? The story is told like a bipolar third grader would tell a story, and the action is so repetitive that it is insane. Get battle rifle, run shoot melee if they dont die by bullets. Halo3_RBS

Halo 1 was realeased in 2001. Halo 2 was released in 2004. Halo 3 was released in 2007. Halo 4 was realeased in 2010-woops

so you guys like half life because it requires you to think then how about using that good brain of yours to past your damn school classes moron.silverRIDER90

Please don't flame me without reading the whole thing, plz...

Ok, so I started playing the HL 2 that comes in Orange Box like four days ago and beat it today. IDK, I have so many mixed reactions. For instance, the first 10 minutes of the game were AWSOME, I really like the feel of the tirant dictatorship upon humanity, but then it became SLOW as hell, to much of the same. So I got to "RED LETTER DAY" go my suit up and then left the Barney for some action, and I wasn't that satisfyied with that one either. Yes, when the combine aproach and start shooting at you, throwing fuel barrels to you, and that kinda stuff, it's awsome, but all of the sudden the action is stopped by physics oriented puzzles, which are fun, but I think there are just to much of the same for the whole level. I kept saying to myself "this game is not top 10 game ever for nothing, i must keep trying to love it". But nah, I got into a hour long boat sequece which utterly SUCKS. When I get down of the boat, not 30 minutes pass before I get into another horribly implemented go kart seuqece. So, I get to the antlion beach and another, massive,45 minute long beach puzzle starts. Up to this point HL 2 was a 8.5/10 for me, not a 9.5/10, until i got pass that level. Yes, I do believe that all the levels that go after that boring antlion beach puzzle are SUPERB. "Follow Freema", "Our Benefactors", all this levels are just masterpieces.

My point here is that Half Life 2 becomes the named masterpiece critics talk about from the middle of the game and beyond, unlike Halo, or CoD, or GoW, where the pacing in the WHOLE game is just perfect. Also, the shooting system is not about skill. I know aiming in the head is better than aiming to the legs, but even on Hard difficulty it seems as there is not reward for playing good or bad, in other words: it never seems to put a good challenge.

To finish, while the found story in HL 2 is great, I dont think of it to be better than Halo's story (talking about the books, not the game). Granted, HL's story is far better than GoW, CoD 4, or any tom clancy game, but I always felt that there was something missing, which I understood later: Gordan Freeman feels cheap, in a way that he doesn't feels like he has any character at all. Yes, I know he is a silent character, but even Link was able to put up a way better feel to himself than Gordon does.

Thanks for reading, and I'd like to remind you guys: I thought this game was awsome, but it doens't deserve to be Top 10 ever, maybe top 25 yes, but not top 10..

xfan-atic

Dude if you're saying that the Halo 3 campaign is better than this campaign you are on crack. The only part of the Halo 3 I enjoyed was the ending because there it kept me in suspense the whole time. In Halo 3 all you do is shoot stuff pointlessly to get into the next part. In Half Life 2 you actually have to think. In all the Half Life 2 campaign and the episodes is better than anything Halo has ever had in the single player department

jet2892

HL2 is much better in my opinion even though Halo is very good but it gets old quick. Hl2 i've played trough that S**T 7 times now on the pc and im consitering to get the orangbox 2

[QUOTE="silverRIDER90"]so you guys like half life because it requires you to think then how about using that good brain of yours to past your damn school classes moron.Halo3_RBS

Halo 3 better then Orange Box?! Haha um...NO.

Sykoh

This must be a joke thread........

Ummm well i think NOT

Halo3 is the Best Game out for the 360 and Orange Box is problebly Second, I dont see why everyone is loving OrangeBox so much?

[QUOTE="Sykoh"]

Halo 3 better then Orange Box?! Haha um...NO.

hillelslovak

This must be a joke thread........

Obviously.

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="xfan-atic"]I haven't played CoD 4 yet... So I cand argue with that statement XpIAmDazzle

Or a green case inside a metallic silver case to keep you from getting the 360 pregnant and having little COD2s. Thats what I did, I ain't trying to have no babies.

And I have to say it.... we're going deep, and we're going hard.

Surley you can't be serious?

Ive played both. Its difficult, but Id say Halo 3. Half Life 2 is good but it shows its age graphically, Episode 2 was greatand TF2 was a joke for me, Portal is awesome and innovative.

Halo 3 campaign? I liked it. I dunno why people are bashing it so much. Kindarepeats itself but its so fun that I dont really care anyway (Chapter 8 was dreadful).Havent played H1 or 2 so I cant say much about repetitivity. I am yet to play MP (Lordy knows why) but I intend on doing so soon.

Both games are great, Halo 3 edges it tho' imo.

cant choose i love them bothRPT_KIKO

Agreed.

Stopped reading after i saw "I like Halos story better then Half Life".

I can see if someoen likes the controls better or the online better in halo, but the story is where halo sucks imo.

Stopped reading after i saw "I like Halos story better then Half Life".

I can see if someoen likes the controls better or the online better in halo, but the story is where halo sucks imo.

kozzy1234

Wow, have you even read Halo's book? You don't know what you are missing if you haven't... I have post graduate friends that don't even play Halo, just read the books and love them for what they are. I am going to stop posting in here, i can't believe I state my opnioni and I get answers like "this must be a joke thread". I am not mad, just dissapoint, I thought a community this size was able to give me good opinions and a good debate could start (like some of you), but i guess no, I have totally lost hope for Gamespot community...

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Stopped reading after i saw "I like Halos story better then Half Life".

I can see if someoen likes the controls better or the online better in halo, but the story is where halo sucks imo.

xfan-atic

Wow, have you even read Halo's book? You don't know what you are missing if you haven't... I have post graduate friends that don't even play Halo, just read the books and love them for what they are. I am going to stop posting in here, i can't believe I state my opnioni and I get answers like "this must be a joke thread". I am not mad, just dissapoint, I thought a community this size was able to give me good opinions and a good debate could start (like some of you), but i guess no, I have totally lost hope for Gamespot community...

[QUOTE="xfan-atic"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Stopped reading after i saw "I like Halos story better then Half Life".

I can see if someoen likes the controls better or the online better in halo, but the story is where halo sucks imo.

ninjaxams

Wow, have you even read Halo's book? You don't know what you are missing if you haven't... I have post graduate friends that don't even play Halo, just read the books and love them for what they are. I am going to stop posting in here, i can't believe I state my opnioni and I get answers like "this must be a joke thread". I am not mad, just dissapoint, I thought a community this size was able to give me good opinions and a good debate could start (like some of you), but i guess no, I have totally lost hope for Gamespot community...

You are welcome XD! I'll be tracking you!

[QUOTE="xfan-atic"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Stopped reading after i saw "I like Halos story better then Half Life".

I can see if someoen likes the controls better or the online better in halo, but the story is where halo sucks imo.

ninjaxams

Wow, have you even read Halo's book? You don't know what you are missing if you haven't... I have post graduate friends that don't even play Halo, just read the books and love them for what they are. I am going to stop posting in here, i can't believe I state my opnioni and I get answers like "this must be a joke thread". I am not mad, just dissapoint, I thought a community this size was able to give me good opinions and a good debate could start (like some of you), but i guess no, I have totally lost hope for Gamespot community...

I disagree. However, I disagree respectfully because you backed it up with intelligent / coherent candor.

I will say that Halo 3 seems to be getting a lot of hate lately, and I think it's undeserved. It's a phenomenal game, but I don't think it can touch Half Life 2, let alone Half Life 2 PLUS the two expansions PLUS Portal PLUS TF2. I think Halo 3 MP is more satisfying than TF2, though... but a few more downloadable maps for TF2 may make me less hasty in saying so.

Ah I love good debates so I guess ill join in.

I have played both, read a few halo books and what not. Halo 3 IS better than Half-Life 2. Unfortunatly Half-Life 2 was made three years ago and for older machines with less graphic capabilities. As a whole though the Orange Box destroys Halo 3 and everything it has to offer. The Half-Life story (2, ep. 1 + 2) offer a much better story than Halo 3. Combined those games should last you in the range of 20-25 hours while H3 somewhere along 8-11. Half-Life also has much more variety than Halo 3. H3 is basically get to said checkpoint, kill guys, move on. Now there is nothing wrong with this. While Halo 3 wasnt very challenging on the brain, it was very fun to play. There is something very satisfying about punching grunts in the face while they flail their arms in terror.

I'm probably in the minority on this one but I would much rather play TF2 over H3 multiplayer anyday. H3 multiplayer bores me because its the same thing every time. Not to mention all achievements must be earned in lone wolf, which sucks. You could play the same gametype on the same map in TF2 (and you do!) except every time it can be 100% different. You can go in as a sniper with all his pros and cons or maybe you want to build turrets or maybe you just want to destroy people with rocket launchers.

I have not even begun to mention Portal yet either. Very short but very fun and amusing.

To wrap it up Halo 3 single player beats Half-Life 2 single player. The Orange Box beats Halo 3 by quite a long shot in my opinion. But both games are well worth the $60 and the ability to finish the fight felt good (although it was a crap ending IMO). Hopefully we can get some good discussion outta this and not mindless fanboy blabber.

I liked Half life 2.

The driving sequences sucked. The controls for the every vehicle suuuuuuuucked.

The rest fo the game was pretty great, just the driving killed it.

I think Half-Life 2 is great. Had it for the computer but never was able to upgrade my computer enough to get the full graphics out of it (stupid only PCI supported mother board.) I found that Half-Life 2 had way much more replay value. One because you could just fool around with the physics and two because mods gave it amazing replay value. (GMod anyone?)

Now that it has come to the 360 I have not only been able to get practically full graphics out of it but also with the great achievements and the additions of HL2:e1 and HL2:e2 it feels so much more appealing and fun than Halo.

And yes, I have Halo 1, 2, and 3. I finished the Halo 3 campaign in roughly 7 hours. The HL2 campaign has taken me much longer. The perfectly placed fight scenes of HL2 seem well more placed then Halo 3's. I also find that the Airboat and Buggy scenes give it so much more depth and character. It definatly gives you a sense that the enviroment is huge. (thus needing a vehicle to get around)

But those are your opinions and these are mine. If you really don't like HL2 then all we really can do is explain or differences.

I agree with ya but COD4>both. HL2 and its eps are probally the most overated games I've EVER played (maybe even more so than gears). They are quality, theres no mistaking that, but to claim HL2 as the holy grail of FPSs is a massive joke.ninjaxams

I agree. I found myself extremely bored and frustrated playing HL2. Got sick to death of those little obstacles and the shooting was just meh. Halo absolutely destroys half life. I have 100 times more fun playing the Halo games (which I don't even think are that great) than playing HL2. Portal was the only game in the "box" that was any good. Seriously, I just finished HL2 for the achievements. Never playing that trash ever again.