Smaller developers leaving XBLA/PSN. Too expensive and closed up.

Schafer pointed at the ease of distribution and a more streamlined updating process on open platforms such as Steam and iOS as the main factors behind the trend away from XBLA and Sony's rival PlayStation Network.

"We can put something up on the App Store pretty easily. We can put stuff up on Steam really easily," he explained.

"I like the Xbox and the PS3. I like Sony and Microsoft, but those systems are closed and curated very closely and it costs a lot more money to go through that system, to patch a game.

"It makes me stressed out that if I put a game up there, I might not be able to patch it because it might cost too much money, whereas these more open platforms will let us manage our own price and our own updates. It's just a lot more appealing right now."

"I mean, it costs $40,000 to put up a patch – we can't afford that! Open systems like Steam, that allow us to set our own prices, that's where it's at, and doing it completely alone like Minecraft. That's where people are going."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-17-schafer-microsoft-has-ignored-warnings-over-xbla-decline

More men for the master race army!

I'm surprised they make it so difficult for smaller devs. It works to simply snuff them out rather than help them grow.

I've not noticed any developers leaving either network....doesn't seem like doublefine is and they aren't exactly large.

More men for the master race army!

NoodleFighter

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

More men for the master race army!

WilliamRLBaker

the App Store is the very definition of closed.

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

More men for the master race army!

WilliamRLBaker

I didn't know my 300 games on Steam went free. Or all of those new releases.

the App Store is the very definition of closed.

XschlistaX

[QUOTE="XschlistaX"]

the App Store is the very definition of closed.

illmatic87

more games for PC

console gamers mad

more games for PC

console gamers mad

HaloinventedFPS

Wanna hear a joke?

Big budget PC exclusive.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

more games for PC

console gamers mad

waltefmoney

Wanna hear a joke?

Big budget PC exclusive.

Then again, consoles are for real games. PCs and mobile devices would obviously be easier to make 'cheap' games with.Mr_Cumberdale

So PC and mobile games are "fake"?

You mean like the one that came out in december and it´s one of the most expensive games ever made(or the most expensive)?

Nanomage

Okay, non-MMO or RTS big budget PC exclusive.

[QUOTE="Nanomage"]

You mean like the one that came out in december and it´s one of the most expensive games ever made(or the most expensive)?

waltefmoney

Okay, non-MMO or RTS big budget PC exclusive.

Changing the parameters when the argument fails? :lol:Nanomage

THHBO.

[QUOTE="Nanomage"]Changing the parameters when the argument fails? :lol:waltefmoney

THHBO.

Yep,pretty massive self ownage you got there! :lol:Nanomage

I know, that's why I said THHBO. :cool:

[QUOTE="Nanomage"]Yep,pretty massive self ownage you got there! :lol:waltefmoney

I know, that's why I said THHBO. :cool:

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"]

You mean like the one that came out in december and it´s one of the most expensive games ever made(or the most expensive)?

Nanomage

Okay, non-MMO or RTS big budget PC exclusive.

A big budget game that is exclusive to one console and not funded by the first party? Ummm...let's see........ShadowDeathX

MGS4.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]A big budget game that is exclusive to one console and not funded by the first party? Ummm...let's see........waltefmoney

MGS4.

This is a golden opportunity for Nintendo to attract these dishearten devs in their new Nintendo Network.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]A big budget game that is exclusive to one console and not funded by the first party? Ummm...let's see........ShadowDeathX

MGS4.

Yakuza.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

MGS4.

waltefmoney

Yakuza.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Yakuza.

Nanomage

Yes.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"] Any else?Nanomage

Yakuza.

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Yakuza.

cain006

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"] Any else?Nanomage

Yakuza.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

MGS4.

waltefmoney

Yakuza.

Yakuza is awesome. :)ShadowDeathX

Never played it, but it looks good.

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Yakuza.

Arach666

a bit like valkyria its a strong seller in its home turf.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yakuza is big budget? lolrazgriz_101

a bit like valkyria its a strong seller in its home turf.

"Those systems as great as they are, they're still closed. You have to jump through a lot of hoops, even for important stuff like patching and supporting your game. Those are things we really want to do, but we can't do it on these systems," he said.

"I mean, it costs $40,000 to put up a patch – we can't afford that! Open systems like Steam, that allow us to set our own prices, that's where it's at, and doing it completely alone like Minecraft. That's where people are going."

source: http://www.megagames.com/news/microsoft-charges-developers-usd-40000-xbox-360-game-patch

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

more games for PC

console gamers mad

waltefmoney

Wanna hear a joke?

Big budget PC exclusive.

It's a shame but it's true. Indie games thrive on PC, specifically Steam, because of the open nature of the platform. Hopefully Sony and MS learn from this in the future.

Wanna hear a better joke? Console game ad campaignswis3boi

That's not a better joke :(

Then again, consoles are for real games. PCs and mobile devices would obviously be easier to make 'cheap' games with.Mr_Cumberdale

[QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]Then again, consoles are for real games. PCs and mobile devices would obviously be easier to make 'cheap' games with.DragonfireXZ95