Xbox GPU speed bump.?

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

You xbox fans are so desperate that you want to even use a damn sound block to claim superiority..That sad you people are..:lol:

marklarmer

lol at Tormentos calling other people desperate and sad.

Indeed.

I wonder who created this d/c thread and has 100+ posts in it?

It's a small, but welcome bump. It sure won't change the world, but any upgrade is better than no upgrade.

What else needs to be said?

[spoiler] Bu, bu, but the downgrade! LMAO [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

Superclocked pulled them numbers out his ass like string cheese man

superclocked

8 CU=512 SP *2 OPS*853 mhz= 873 gigaflops for graphics rendering for the Xbox One, compared to the 1.43 tflops for PS4 for graphics rendering...

"based" on what i read this is true 

Superclocked pulled them numbers out his ass like string cheese man

Douevenlift_bro

PS4 still has 4 more CU's then Xbox One for graphics rendering "based" on what i read these numbers are 100% accurate :lol: 

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

Superclocked pulled them numbers out his ass like string cheese man

chaflifi

8 CU=512 SP *2 OPS*853 mhz= 873 gigaflops for graphics rendering for the Xbox One, compared to the 1.43 tflops for PS4 for graphics rendering...

"based" on what i read this is true 

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]OWNED OMG :LOL:chaflifi

[QUOTE="chaflifi"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]You didn't have to eat the string cheese just to prove a point. I already believed that you would put anything in your mouth before you did that.. Seriously, though, the numbers were based on 100% fact.. 14CU = 896SP * 2OPS * 800MHz = 1.43 TFLOPSsuperclocked

8 CU=512 SP *2 OPS*853 mhz= 873 gigaflops for graphics rendering for the Xbox One, compared to the 1.43 tflops for PS4 for graphics rendering...

"based" on what i read this is true 

Havent the 14+4 changed since the alpha dev kits?

Im sure i heard Cerny saying in an interview that the ALU usage is up to devs now, if they want to use 11+7 they can or whatever combination suits them best.

Havent the 14+4 changed since the alpha dev kits?

Im sure i heard Cerny saying in an interview that the ALU usage is up to devs now, if they want to use 11+7 they can or whatever combination suits them best.

ManatuBeard

[QUOTE="chaflifi"][QUOTE="superclocked"]"OZMG, I'm so cool cause I make fun of people on the internet cause they can't punch me in the face!" Wow, man. I admire you so much. You're so cool...superclocked

Digital Foundry:Going back to GPU compute for a moment, I wouldn't call it a rumour - it was more than that. There was a recommendation - a suggestion? - for 14 cores [GPU compute units] allocated to visuals and four to GPU compute...

Mark Cerny: That comes from a leak and is not any form of formal evangelisation. The point is the hardware is intentionally not 100 per cent round. It has a little bit more ALU in it than it would if you were thinking strictly about graphics. As a result of that you have an opportunity, you could say an incentivisation, to use that ALU for GPGPU.

lol dude you just got shitted on, Cerny said it simply came from a leak and isnt any form of truth, and he simply says its a incentitive to use the extra ALU in the 4 CU's, he isnt recommending it, he isnt saying that its concrete and that there is a hard cap on how much CU's you can use for graphics rendering.... your a dam fraud and i just proved you wrong countless times in this thread for everyone to see... you have been completely embarrassed man and still pulling bogus claims out your ass without any proper cititation/information 

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

Havent the 14+4 changed since the alpha dev kits?

Im sure i heard Cerny saying in an interview that the ALU usage is up to devs now, if they want to use 11+7 they can or whatever combination suits them best.

superclocked

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

You xbox fans are so desperate that you want to even use a damn sound block to claim superiority..That sad you people are..:lol:

SUD123456

lol at Tormentos calling other people desperate and sad.

Indeed.

I wonder who created this d/c thread and has 100+ posts in it?

It's a small, but welcome bump. It sure won't change the world, but any upgrade is better than no upgrade.

What else needs to be said?

[spoiler] Bu, bu, but the downgrade! LMAO [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

lol at Tormentos calling other people desperate and sad.

superclocked

Indeed.

I wonder who created this d/c thread and has 100+ posts in it?

It's a small, but welcome bump. It sure won't change the world, but any upgrade is better than no upgrade.

What else needs to be said?

[spoiler] Bu, bu, but the downgrade! LMAO [/spoiler]

Think about it for a moment, son. The GPU was already weak. To have it downclocked would have been lulzworthy.

A slight upclock is just "meh, the PS4 is still stronger".

It's psychology.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

Havent the 14+4 changed since the alpha dev kits?

Im sure i heard Cerny saying in an interview that the ALU usage is up to devs now, if they want to use 11+7 they can or whatever combination suits them best.

chaflifi

in order for the Xbox One to compete with PS4 in compute, its going to have to use some of its CU's for compute aswell, so it wont have 1.18 teraflops of power for graphics alone, it will have less then that when the Xbox One does compute chaflifi

Oh wow... Someone finally said the obvious.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Indeed.

I wonder who created this d/c thread and has 100+ posts in it?

It's a small, but welcome bump. It sure won't change the world, but any upgrade is better than no upgrade.

What else needs to be said?

[spoiler] Bu, bu, but the downgrade! LMAO [/spoiler]

 

 

 

 

CallOfDutyRulez

Think about it for a moment, son. The GPU was already weak. To have it downclocked would have been lulzworthy.

A slight upclock is just "meh, the PS4 is still stronger".

[QUOTE="chaflifi"]in order for the Xbox One to compete with PS4 in compute, its going to have to use some of its CU's for compute aswell, so it wont have 1.18 teraflops of power for graphics alone, it will have less then that when the Xbox One does compute CallOfDutyRulez

Oh wow... Someone finally said the obvious.

so he says that the Ps4 will have 1.4 teraflops of power for graphics rendering while also saying that the xbox one gpu will have all 1.18 teraflops of graphics rendering for graphics, and none of that torwards compute, he is a dam huge Microsoft fanboy trying to "close" the gap between the two with bullshit ass numbers 

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="chaflifi"]in order for the Xbox One to compete with PS4 in compute, its going to have to use some of its CU's for compute aswell, so it wont have 1.18 teraflops of power for graphics alone, it will have less then that when the Xbox One does compute chaflifi

Oh wow... Someone finally said the obvious.

[QUOTE="chaflifi"][QUOTE="superclocked"]Yeah, that's definitely the case. Developers can use the resources as they see fit...superclocked

for real man, stop spreading lies, you have been completely embarrassed

[QUOTE="chaflifi"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Oh wow... Someone finally said the obvious.

superclocked

Please, elaborate further. If you mean what I think you mean, then you're very misinformed. The XBox One has far more custom hardware than the PS4. The PS4 has a few enhancements over traditional architecture, too, but Microsoft took it to the extreme.. The XBox One has some very innovative memory enhancements. Besides the additional large L4 cache for the GPU, it also has uses move engines to move data around the system, which feature custom compression hardware and texture tiling hardware. DDR3 ram is faster than GDDR5, but it doesn't move as much data. The XBox One's move engines make it so that the XBox One won't use nearly as much memory bandwidth, thus not needing GGDR5 type memory that moves more data. It allows the use of snappier DDR3 RAM that CPU's favor. And the texture tiling hardware in the move engines will allow the use of insanely detailed textures the likes of which have never before seen in video games, while the PS4 must use additional GPU processing power for this technique. The Xbox One also has a very advanced voice decoder chip, which can completely separate a person's voice from nearly any amount of ambient noise, it uses Smartglass technology that allows you to use a tablet PC as an extension and controller for your XBox One, and, of course, it has the Kinect 2.0, which is used for advanced motion controls, as a very high quality 1080p video camera that sees perfectly in the dark, and it can even create a digital version of you for your videogames by scanning your head and making perfectly accurate, insanely detailed 3D models of your face and head. The Playstation 4 has a custom cache label that improves cache performance during simultaneous GPU compute and shader processing, it has a separate bus that connects the GPU and CPU without having to address the cache first, there is a small touchscreen built into the PS4 controller, similar to a laptop mouse, and the PS Vita can be used as a tablet controller and screen for the PS4. The XBox One GPU's total floating point performance is 1.31 TFLOPS, while 10% is reserved for OS type functions. The PS4 GPU's total floating point performance is 1.84 TFLOPS, while 22.222% of that is reserved for GPU compute, and it is not known how much power is reserved for the OS. If we assume the same 10% OS reserve for both consoles, and with only 14 compute units available for graphics in the PS4, the final floating point comparison numbers are.. 1.29 TFLOPS (PS4) vs1.18 TFLOPS (XB1)<.b>available for game graphics. That makes the final numbers roughly 1.3 vs 1.2, which is nearly identical...superclocked

why didnt you apply any potential compute being done on the Xbox One here? why say that the PS4 will do compute, but no compute on the Xbox One? if the xbox one ever did compute, it wouldnt have 1.18 teraflops for graphics rendering...LOL :lol: i love shutting up little teenage boys spouting nonsense, 

LOL :lol: i love shutting up little teenage boys spouting nonsense, 

chaflifi

[QUOTE="chaflifi"]

LOL :lol: i love shutting up little teenage boys spouting nonsense, 

superclocked

its all 1.84 teraflops for graphics rendering can be used IF a developer chooses so, while the Xbox one only has 1.18 teraflops of maximum graphics rendering power.

1.84 >>>>>>1.18 teraflops=660 gigaflop advantage for the PS4 in potential graphics rendering 

This is 2006 all over again. A bunch of people quoting various articles from different people giving their opinion about hardware they haven't had much time to use. None of you are getting anywhere and it's frankly sad to see you guys arguing over hardware theoretical (which is all it is right now).

My suggestion? Wait until the damn things come out. Back last gen in 2006 I frequently argued the theoreticals of unproven hardware by devs with very limited experience with unfinished development kits and brand new software only for the next few years for all of their claims to be proven wrong in one way or another. 

You guys need to take a chill pill and get some perspective.