Xbox 720 patent.?

Wow incredible silence in this thread..loltormentos

[QUOTE="tormentos"]Wow incredible silence in this thread..lolBadosh

[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="tormentos"]Wow incredible silence in this thread..loltormentos

So it gets casual because of power.. such good logic .. and its rumors about sony and this.. but 6 times more powerful than hd twins ? ill take it no doubt thats quite impressive actually.. but that astounding logic of yours damn. :roll:

Thread to back up :there was a thread about dev kits for ps4 on the other day, which was 1.84 tflops and according to this (which is not a dev kit) is around 1.50 tflops (this thread),: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29222984/specs-for-ps4-alpha-kits-leaked ..

and as you know dev kits is always quite faster than the console the spit out to the consumer.. so the point was, that ps4 is also casual now by your logic then ? some people should think before post imo ... :P

[QUOTE="tormentos"]Wow incredible silence in this thread..lolBadosh

Looks pretty exciting, can't wait to see what Microsoft has in store for us.

Looks pretty exciting, can't wait to see what Microsoft has in store for us.

verbtex

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Looks pretty exciting, can't wait to see what Microsoft has in store for us.

SirDigby84

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Looks pretty exciting, can't wait to see what Microsoft has in store for us.

SirDigby84

:lol:

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Looks pretty exciting, can't wait to see what Microsoft has in store for us.

SirDigby84

LOL. This is why I love System Wars.

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Looks pretty exciting, can't wait to see what Microsoft has in store for us.

SirDigby84

[QUOTE="SirDigby84"][QUOTE="verbtex"]

Looks pretty exciting, can't wait to see what Microsoft has in store for us.

tormentos

lulz, you might wanna look my quote too you above ^^.

So much for being underpowered huh ?

I want a 720, more than any other next gen console in fact. Don't speak for everyone.randomguy15

lulz, you might wanna look my quote too you above ^^.So much for being underpowered huh ?Strutten

[QUOTE="randomguy15"]I want a 720, more than any other next gen console in fact. Don't speak for everyone.Badosh

So like the WiiU external factors will suck a lot of power away from the console.This time it's the app CPU and GPU for the console and hardware confusion for smaller devs.

The hardware looks very similar to the hardware shown in the powerpoint/pdf slides that were leaked by someone and removed by Microsoft.

Platform GPU and CPU = Main console power. These will be used to run the console's next-generation games.

APP GPU and CPU = Possible ARM based solution used to power other multi-media things like movies, TV, music, etc, at a low cost in heat and energy.

Shared Multi-Core CPU = Extra power given to the console. Maybe another ARM chip? Could also be a dedicated Kinectv2 proccessor.

All this wrapped up into a single chip? Could be possible by AMD since they have licensed ARM tech and they have experience in this kinds of things. They make APUs and they do make the XCGPU inside the Xbox 360 S [the unfiied chip that has the Triple-Core IBM proccesoor and ATI Xenos chip]

Cows like you give Sony a bad name. Grow up.randomguy15

[QUOTE="Strutten"]lulz, you might wanna look my quote too you above ^^.So much for being underpowered huh ?tormentos

Reading comprehension ?

and wrong quote wuut are you on about ?

my comment too you from above :
""

So it gets casual because of power.. such good logic .. and its rumors about sony and this.. but 6 times more powerful than hd twins ? ill take it no doubt thats quite impressive actually.. but that astounding logic of yours damn.

Thread to back up :there was a thread about dev kits for ps4 on the other day, which was 1.84 tflops and according to this (which is not a dev kit) is around 1.50 tflops (this thread),: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29222984/specs-for-ps4-alpha-kits-leaked ..

and as you know dev kits is always quite faster than the console the spit out to the consumer.. so the point was, that ps4 is also casual now by your logic then ? some people should think before post imo. :)

""

Which is based on tflops .. just sayin' .. 1.50 tflops (non dev-kit by the looks of the link) vs. thread from the other day 1.84 tflops (dev-kit ps4) ye ye i know it was prolly fake.. but sure ifs goin by rumours, then the ps4 for the consumer wont be that fast - taken in consideration that devkits usually is quite more powerful ..

The hardware looks very similar to the hardware shown in the powerpoint/pdf slides that were leaked by someone and removed by Microsoft.

Platform GPU and CPU = Main console power. These will be used to run the console's next-generation games.

APP GPU and CPU = Possible ARM based solution used to power other multi-media things like movies, TV, music, etc, at a low cost in heat and energy.

Shared Multi-Core CPU = Extra power given to the console. Maybe another ARM chip? Could also be a dedicated Kinectv2 proccessor.

All this wrapped up into a single chip? Could be possible by AMD since they have licensed ARM tech and they have experience in this kinds of things. They make APUs and they do make the XCGPU inside the Xbox 360 S [the unfiied chip that has the Triple-Core IBM proccesoor and ATI Xenos chip]

ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

The hardware looks very similar to the hardware shown in the powerpoint/pdf slides that were leaked by someone and removed by Microsoft.

Platform GPU and CPU = Main console power. These will be used to run the console's next-generation games.

APP GPU and CPU = Possible ARM based solution used to power other multi-media things like movies, TV, music, etc, at a low cost in heat and energy.

Shared Multi-Core CPU = Extra power given to the console. Maybe another ARM chip? Could also be a dedicated Kinectv2 proccessor.

All this wrapped up into a single chip? Could be possible by AMD since they have licensed ARM tech and they have experience in this kinds of things. They make APUs and they do make the XCGPU inside the Xbox 360 S [the unfiied chip that has the Triple-Core IBM proccesoor and ATI Xenos chip]

tormentos

You really dont know jack what you are talking about do you? :|

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Strutten"]lulz, you might wanna look my quote too you above ^^.So much for being underpowered huh ?Strutten

Reading comprehension ?

and wrong quote wuut are you on about ?

my comment too you from above :
""

So it gets casual because of power.. such good logic .. and its rumors about sony and this.. but 6 times more powerful than hd twins ? ill take it no doubt thats quite impressive actually.. but that astounding logic of yours damn.

Thread to back up :there was a thread about dev kits for ps4 on the other day, which was 1.84 tflops and according to this (which is not a dev kit) is around 1.50 tflops (this thread),: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29222984/specs-for-ps4-alpha-kits-leaked ..

and as you know dev kits is always quite faster than the console the spit out to the consumer.. so the point was, that ps4 is also casual now by your logic then ? some people should think before post imo. :)

""

Which is based on tflops .. just sayin' .. 1.50 tflops (non dev-kit by the looks of the link) vs. thread from the other day 1.84 tflops (dev-kit ps4) ye ye i know it was prolly fake.. but sure its goin by rumours ..

[QUOTE="Strutten"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] You mean the one that wrongly quote me.? They aren't going casual because the hardware will be weaker than the PS4.is going casual because of the whole media box push thing,and because of the patent which also talk about kinect in next gen. What is been speculated at GA claim 10 times the PS3 performance based on Gflops,is the same thing used for the xbox next,4 to 6 times the Gflops of the xbox 360 is very weak,considering the PS3 move more Flops than the 360,taking into account both GPU and CPU in both consoles. So 10 times the PS3 power should make for a considerable more powerful console that one that has 4 to 6 times the power of the xbox 360.tormentos

Reading comprehension ?

and wrong quote wuut are you on about ?

my comment too you from above :
""

So it gets casual because of power.. such good logic .. and its rumors about sony and this.. but 6 times more powerful than hd twins ? ill take it no doubt thats quite impressive actually.. but that astounding logic of yours damn.

Thread to back up :there was a thread about dev kits for ps4 on the other day, which was 1.84 tflops and according to this (which is not a dev kit) is around 1.50 tflops (this thread),: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29222984/specs-for-ps4-alpha-kits-leaked ..

and as you know dev kits is always quite faster than the console the spit out to the consumer.. so the point was, that ps4 is also casual now by your logic then ? some people should think before post imo. :)

""

Which is based on tflops .. just sayin' .. 1.50 tflops (non dev-kit by the looks of the link) vs. thread from the other day 1.84 tflops (dev-kit ps4) ye ye i know it was prolly fake.. but sure its goin by rumours ..

I do you dude lol facepalm, and dev kits is faster than the console the consumer gets, which means around(ish) equal or lower than this xbox stats (talking about the console you will get and play on ). and its the same i posted .. did you even read it lol .. DirectX 11.5 lol .. im pretty certain that it would be 11.1 since at least i havent ever seen a direct X with .5 in it before .. and its an dev kit in alpha..

Yet you already jump too conclusions, by using this alpha kit ? also is this what you are on about in 10x power? : aggregate 10x RSX performance, 1.84 TFlops.

You get the point now ?

But like you said we should take this with a pinch of salt , since either one could or could not be fake.. but imo i see the rumours as for now as fake.

You really dont know jack what you are talking about do you? Strutten

I do you dude lol facepalm, and dev kits is faster than the console the consumer gets, which means around(ish) equal or lower than this xbox stats (talking about the console you will get and play on ). and its the same i posted .. did you even read it lol .. DirectX 11.5 lol .. im pretty certain that it would be 11.1 since at least i havent ever seen a direct X with .5 in it before .. and its an dev kit in alpha..Yet you already jump too conclusions, by using this alpha kit ? also is this what you are on about in 10x power? : aggregate 10x RSX performance, 1.84 TFlops.You get the point now ?But like you said we should take this with a pinch of salt , since either one could or could not be fake.. but imo i see the rumours as for now as fake.Strutten

[QUOTE="Strutten"]You really dont know jack what you are talking about do you? tormentos

lol omg, why should the consumer care about this i mean seriously ? point is ms do know if its too expensive people might not buy.. and they need too be in competition.. so plain and simply it wont be expensive , im pretty certain that they will go the same route they did this gen, its ms dude they know how to make the dollars, and it wont be underpowered but pretty equal or as close/better(we dont know as of yet) as they can get too its competition for reasonable price .

They Do know their route to gain whether people like it or not .

[QUOTE="Strutten"]I do you dude lol facepalm, and dev kits is faster than the console the consumer gets, which means around(ish) equal or lower than this xbox stats (talking about the console you will get and play on ). and its the same i posted .. did you even read it lol .. DirectX 11.5 lol .. im pretty certain that it would be 11.1 since at least i havent ever seen a direct X with .5 in it before .. and its an dev kit in alpha..Yet you already jump too conclusions, by using this alpha kit ? also is this what you are on about in 10x power? : aggregate 10x RSX performance, 1.84 TFlops.You get the point now ?But like you said we should take this with a pinch of salt , since either one could or could not be fake.. but imo i see the rumours as for now as fake.tormentos

Ehm yes which was in the point. you based on an article with dx 11.5 you .ohh who am i kidding .. lol nvm you dont seem too understand the point .

[QUOTE="Strutten"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] You mean the one that wrongly quote me.? They aren't going casual because the hardware will be weaker than the PS4.is going casual because of the whole media box push thing,and because of the patent which also talk about kinect in next gen. What is been speculated at GA claim 10 times the PS3 performance based on Gflops,is the same thing used for the xbox next,4 to 6 times the Gflops of the xbox 360 is very weak,considering the PS3 move more Flops than the 360,taking into account both GPU and CPU in both consoles. So 10 times the PS3 power should make for a considerable more powerful console that one that has 4 to 6 times the power of the xbox 360.tormentos

Reading comprehension ?

and wrong quote wuut are you on about ?

my comment too you from above :
""

So it gets casual because of power.. such good logic .. and its rumors about sony and this.. but 6 times more powerful than hd twins ? ill take it no doubt thats quite impressive actually.. but that astounding logic of yours damn.

Thread to back up :there was a thread about dev kits for ps4 on the other day, which was 1.84 tflops and according to this (which is not a dev kit) is around 1.50 tflops (this thread),: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29222984/specs-for-ps4-alpha-kits-leaked ..

and as you know dev kits is always quite faster than the console the spit out to the consumer.. so the point was, that ps4 is also casual now by your logic then ? some people should think before post imo. :)

""

Which is based on tflops .. just sayin' .. 1.50 tflops (non dev-kit by the looks of the link) vs. thread from the other day 1.84 tflops (dev-kit ps4) ye ye i know it was prolly fake.. but sure its goin by rumours ..

Dev kits usually have more of everything RAM, SPEED, POWER whatever you call it, then dev's have to tweak it and optimize it to perform on the real world machine. In this case the machine is not as powerful as the dev kit. Kinda makes you wonder how less powerful it will be from the Dev kit.

lol omg, why should the consumer care about this i mean seriously ? point is ms do know if its too expensive people might not buy.. and they need too be in competition.. so plain and simply it wont be expensive , im pretty certain that they will go the same route they did this gen, its ms dude they know how to make the dollars, and it wont be underpowered but pretty equal or as close/better(we dont know as of yet) as they can get too its competition for reasonable price .They Do know their route to gain whether people like it or not .Strutten

So it's looking like the leaked "IEB Roadmap" document was real.

In the gaf thread they mention that the hardware may be split like this to accommodate for the purported "$99 App/DVR Box". Interesting possibility.

Wonder if they'll bundle Kinect 2 in with X3 and sell it seperately with the AppBox? With the advent of cloud gaming, neither Sony or MS are going to want to push the hardware any further than they have to. It's all about the experience.

For MS it's LIVE, Kinect, Fortazela, and eventually teh cloud(not the ffvii type).

[QUOTE="Strutten"]lol omg, why should the consumer care about this i mean seriously ? point is ms do know if its too expensive people might not buy.. and they need too be in competition.. so plain and simply it wont be expensive , im pretty certain that they will go the same route they did this gen, its ms dude they know how to make the dollars, and it wont be underpowered but pretty equal or as close/better(we dont know as of yet) as they can get too its competition for reasonable price .They Do know their route to gain whether people like it or not .tormentos

You seem too be "mr. know it all" as im afraid. care too explain too me then how ms marketing and business department works then ?

Just fyi thats what i just explained.. also Comparing too this gen . they are pretty equal really - sayin otherwise is merely only fanboy talk .. sure games are different but in terms of gfx their isnt really much blabbering about.. and its also comes down too ones own opinion.. and which also then comes down too they will pretty certain go same(ish) route again.. it works for them and developers, they aint that dumb too change how they/it works right know. they are always been like that - cant see why it should change now.. but yet you already pretty much jumped to conclusions based on rumours .. facepalm

Dev kits usually have more of everything RAM, SPEED, POWER whatever you call it, then dev's have to tweak it and optimize it to perform on the real world machine. In this case the machine is not as powerful as the dev kit. Kinda makes you wonder how less powerful it will be from the Dev kit.Deevoshun

You seem too be "mr. know it all" as im afraid. care too explain too me then how ms marketing and business department works then ?Just fyi thats what i just explained.. also Comparing too this gen . they are pretty equal really - sayin otherwise is merely only fanboy talk .. sure games are different but in terms of gfx their isnt really much blabbering about.. and its also comes down too ones own opinion.. and which also then comes down too they will pretty certain go same(ish) route again.. it works for them and developers, they aint that dumb too change how they/it works right know. they are always been like that - cant see why it should change now.. but yet you already pretty much jumped to conclusions based on rumours .. facepalmStrutten

Reading more into it, seems that it will be powerful 4-6 times but it's games will also scalable. It's a freaken PC now, 2-3 years down the line they will have a more powerful 720 that you can buy.

Deevoshun

Looking at the leaked Roadmap document, they intend to go full-on cloud upgrades starting in 2015. This could be the final "official" hardware gen for MS.

[QUOTE="Strutten"]You seem too be "mr. know it all" as im afraid. care too explain too me then how ms marketing and business department works then ?Just fyi thats what i just explained.. also Comparing too this gen . they are pretty equal really - sayin otherwise is merely only fanboy talk .. sure games are different but in terms of gfx their isnt really much blabbering about.. and its also comes down too ones own opinion.. and which also then comes down too they will pretty certain go same(ish) route again.. it works for them and developers, they aint that dumb too change how they/it works right know. they are always been like that - cant see why it should change now.. but yet you already pretty much jumped to conclusions based on rumours .. facepalmtormentos

OMFG! are you really that du*b i mean seriously. (no offense) :)

Not true at least here and i know some neighbor contries is around the same price. but costs 1129,- DKK here in denmark for a (SLIM 250 gb incl gears 3) which is 199$ via www.elgiganten.dk.

Why should they do the same mistake sony did, i mean think,, Too be in competition you need too be cheaper orcan you say better than its counter-part pretty simple too understand. and ofc business include too get the consumers $$ i thought that was common logic, thats how it works dude

And that you think kinect and so on is overpriced stand alone product which its really not but hey anyway your comment didnt really make any sense .. why are we talking misc ms products , from power ? :|

Actually all i see is that you favor ps brand more than ms .. with all this passive bashing .. ohh who am i kiddin' its a known cow .. :o

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Looks pretty exciting, can't wait to see what Microsoft has in store for us.

SirDigby84

:lol: :lol:

OMFG! are you really that du*b i mean seriously. (no offense) Not true at least here and i know some neighbor contries is around the same price. but costs 1129,- DKK here in denmark for a (SLIM 250 gb incl gears 3) which is 199$ via www.elgiganten.dk.Why should they do the same mistake sony did, i mean think,, Too be in competition you need too be cheaper orcan you say better than its counter-part pretty simple too understand. and ofc business include too get the consumers $$ i thought that was common logic, thats how it works dudeAnd that you think kinect and so on is overpriced stand alone product which its really not but hey anyway your comment didnt really make any sense .. why are we talking misc ms products , from power ? Actually all i see is that you favor ps brand more than ms .. with all this passive bashing .. ohh who am i kiddin' its a known cowStrutten

[QUOTE="Strutten"]OMFG! are you really that du*b i mean seriously. (no offense) Not true at least here and i know some neighbor contries is around the same price. but costs 1129,- DKK here in denmark for a (SLIM 250 gb incl gears 3) which is 199$ via www.elgiganten.dk.Why should they do the same mistake sony did, i mean think,, Too be in competition you need too be cheaper orcan you say better than its counter-part pretty simple too understand. and ofc business include too get the consumers $$ i thought that was common logic, thats how it works dudeAnd that you think kinect and so on is overpriced stand alone product which its really not but hey anyway your comment didnt really make any sense .. why are we talking misc ms products , from power ? Actually all i see is that you favor ps brand more than ms .. with all this passive bashing .. ohh who am i kiddin' its a known cowtormentos

You fail on so many levels its not even funny dude.. get over it - you cant even answer too ye youre own questions.. so now you "attack" me on with where i live facepalm dude a massive one..

and btw link .. : http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/spil-konsol/konsol/X360GOW3BUN/xbox-360-250gb-konsol-inkl-gears-of-war-3 1299,- dkk, can see i wrote it wrong in other comment - but its 199 $.. and no my point isnt mute, you just cant backup like anything, why should i care for the US when i live in eu about the console prices i mean way too spin off "the power of next gen consoles" but i guess you just talk out of your a**, when things doesnt seem too work out for ya ? amirite dude ? but anyway since your spinning it "off-discussion" yet again you still havent explained how ms markting/business department works , you seem too know quite alot .. and while we are at it :

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29225854/pc-to-be-destroyed-next-year.-xbox-720-specs-amd-7990.-16-core-cpu-4gb-ram-- since you are pretty good at jumping too conclusions and so on - i might aswell do so .. if ps4 doesnt come near that or be extreme expensive it will " be teh underP0owerd console of next gen" there is my point again get it now ? omg, why do i even bother i mean seriously..

And if you take that as an insult you really shouldnt be here dude.. :| - its known you favor sony more than ms , and nothing wrong with that at all .. but spinning like here in this threads its kinda obvious, where you want this go ..

pointless discussion is pointless - im done.

[QUOTE="tormentos"],so your point is mute.

you have very little comprehension of the English language,i used to know that feeling..sts106mat

LOL

here, knock yourself out

http://languagerules.wordpress.com/2006/09/25/moot-point-not-mute-point/

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Strutten"]OMFG! are you really that du*b i mean seriously. (no offense) Not true at least here and i know some neighbor contries is around the same price. but costs 1129,- DKK here in denmark for a (SLIM 250 gb incl gears 3) which is 199$ via www.elgiganten.dk.Why should they do the same mistake sony did, i mean think,, Too be in competition you need too be cheaper orcan you say better than its counter-part pretty simple too understand. and ofc business include too get the consumers $$ i thought that was common logic, thats how it works dudeAnd that you think kinect and so on is overpriced stand alone product which its really not but hey anyway your comment didnt really make any sense .. why are we talking misc ms products , from power ? Actually all i see is that you favor ps brand more than ms .. with all this passive bashing .. ohh who am i kiddin' its a known cowStrutten

You fail on so many levels its not even funny dude.. get over it - you cant even answer too ye youre own questions.. so now you "attack" me on with where i live facepalm dude a massive one..

and btw link .. : http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/spil-konsol/konsol/X360GOW3BUN/xbox-360-250gb-konsol-inkl-gears-of-war-3 1299,- dkk, can see i wrote it wrong in other comment - but its 199 $.. and no my point isnt mute, you just cant backup like anything, why should i care for the US when i live in eu about the console prices i mean way too spin off "the power of next gen consoles" but i guess you just talk out of your a**, when things doesnt seem too work out for ya ? amirite dude ? but anyway since your spinning it "off-discussion" yet again you still havent explained how ms markting/business department works , you seem too know quite alot .. and while we are at it :

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29225854/pc-to-be-destroyed-next-year.-xbox-720-specs-amd-7990.-16-core-cpu-4gb-ram-- since you are pretty good at jumping too conclusions and so on - i might aswell do so .. if ps4 doesnt come near that or be extreme expensive it will " be teh underP0owerd console of next gen" there is my point again get it now ? omg, why do i even bother i mean seriously..

And if you take that as an insult you really shouldnt be here dude.. :| - its known you favor sony more than ms , and nothing wrong with that at all .. but spinning like here in this threads its kinda obvious, where you want this go ..

pointless discussion is pointless - im done.

[QUOTE="Strutten"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] My god no wonder you live in denmark,it most be your comprehension of the English language. Second can you link me to the $199 250GB Gear of war 3 xbox 360 because i could not find it on that site, But never the less how many 360 has been sold on Denmark really.? half a million 800k.? Man US is the xbox 360 biggest market and here it cost $300 dollars premium,without games and with no xbox live either,so your point is mute. Kinect is over priced dude every one knows this. You can insult me all you want,but apparently you have very little comprehension of the English language,i used to know that feeling..tormentos

You fail on so many levels its not even funny dude.. get over it - you cant even answer too ye youre own questions.. so now you "attack" me on with where i live facepalm dude a massive one..

and btw link .. : http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/spil-konsol/konsol/X360GOW3BUN/xbox-360-250gb-konsol-inkl-gears-of-war-3 1299,- dkk, can see i wrote it wrong in other comment - but its 199 $.. and no my point isnt mute, you just cant backup like anything, why should i care for the US when i live in eu about the console prices i mean way too spin off "the power of next gen consoles" but i guess you just talk out of your a**, when things doesnt seem too work out for ya ? amirite dude ? but anyway since your spinning it "off-discussion" yet again you still havent explained how ms markting/business department works , you seem too know quite alot .. and while we are at it :

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29225854/pc-to-be-destroyed-next-year.-xbox-720-specs-amd-7990.-16-core-cpu-4gb-ram-- since you are pretty good at jumping too conclusions and so on - i might aswell do so .. if ps4 doesnt come near that or be extreme expensive it will " be teh underP0owerd console of next gen" there is my point again get it now ? omg, why do i even bother i mean seriously..

And if you take that as an insult you really shouldnt be here dude.. :| - its known you favor sony more than ms , and nothing wrong with that at all .. but spinning like here in this threads its kinda obvious, where you want this go ..

pointless discussion is pointless - im done.

Holy shyt seriously dude, you really really must be butthurt or something .. struck a nerve ?.. also you really lack the skill too read , i also said i wrote it wrong.. 1299 is aroundish 199 $ for starters .. and why is my argument dead if i may ask lol , i never ever said anything about the us market , its you that kept spinning it off topic, even when its youre thread? and also why should i when i live in eu.. you seriously fail on so many levels , you still dont get the point ! DONT JUMP TOO CONCLUSIONS ITS EFFING RUMOURS ! ITS THE WHOLE POINT, even you said it in topic , "This was posted on GA so take it with a grain of salt." yet i explained it multiple times, yet you still dont understand .. holy molly dude.. so much facepalm in not even funny .. :lol:

Also so what if its from last month ? it is still rumours, which you seem to believe so much - since now this is sony rumour so it must be true.. your only hold too this is the "10 X faster then current .. " so it must be true .. soo effing hilarious .. and you still cant see it ..

PS: That rumour i posted, is a legit as other rumours , but like i said since its sony it must be true .. anyway im done with you - no point in this since you really dont understand.

Holy shyt seriously dude, you really really must be butthurt or something .. struck a nerve ?.. also you really lack the skill too read , i also said i wrote it wrong.. 1299 is aroundish 199 $ for starters .. and why is my argument dead if i may ask lol , i never ever said anything about the us market , its you that kept spinning it off topic, even when its youre thread? and also why should i when i live in eu.. you seriously fail on so many levels , you still dont get the point ! DONT JUMP TOO CONCLUSIONS ITS EFFING RUMOURS ! ITS THE WHOLE POINT, even you said it in topic , "This was posted on GA so take it with a grain of salt." yet i explained it multiple times, yet you still dont understand .. holy molly dude.. so much facepalm in not even funny .. :lol: Also so what if its from last month ? it is still rumours, which you seem to believe so much - since now this is sony rumour so it must be true.. your only hold too this is the "10 X faster then current .. " so it must be true .. soo effing hilarious .. and you still cant see it .Strutten