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#51 Silverbond
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It's not something I'm pushing for, but I'd try it out.
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#52 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Even though Nintendo as a publisher was a pioneer of console FPS's, first with Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, and then with the Metroid Prime trilogy of games (please don't let this thread degenerate into a 'Metroid Prime isn't an FPS' discussion), they themselves have never actually quite made an FPS.

With many top Nintendo execs, including Miyamoto, expressing interest in the idea, and with Nintendo shooters, including this year's Kid Icarus: Uprising, having generally seen great success, the idea isn't completely alien.

So, my question to you all is, would you like to see a core Nintendo team develop an FPS?

darkdude2k12

Geist was a pretty good FPS by Nintendo. Perhaps something similar wouldn't be bad or a sequel altogether.

The Conduit was a Wii exclusive; does that count?

High Voltage Software developed The Conduit. SEGA published it.
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#53 p3anut
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Well Nintendo worked closely with N-Space when they made Geist. It was a decent game. Being able to possess items was a cool gameplay mechanic.

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#54 p3anut
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I would love to see Miyamoto's idea of a first person shooter. I can't even begin to conceive what that would look like, but the idea of it definitely arouses my interest.

slothboyadvance

Well look at Metroid Prime then. It was his idea to make it a FPA.

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#55 AdrianWerner
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Nah. I think it would be average at best. Nobody at Nintendo simply has the experience to compete with western giants in this genre.

Even Yu Suzuki underwhelmed everyone when he tried FPS, Nintend wouldn't be any different.

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#56 SuperFlakeman
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Nah. I think it would be average at best. Nobody at Nintendo simply has the experience to compete with western giants in this genre.

Even Yu Suzuki underwhelmed everyone when he tried FPS, Nintend wouldn't be any different.

AdrianWerner

What about GoldenEye and Perfect Dark ?

The same team members that once worked under Nintendo also did TimeSplitters.

If you are talking about a BF3 killer no just no. It has to have stylized graphics and arcady gameplay. Imagine TS4 made today. Smaller maps, cartoony graphics, lots of parody with characters like monkeys/mad scientists/zombies/italian mobsters, insane weapons. Do not look at typical western output with cliche voice acting, realistic environments/weapons, real life soldiers; those are boring games.

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#57 nintendoboy16
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Nah. I think it would be average at best. Nobody at Nintendo simply has the experience to compete with western giants in this genre.

Even Yu Suzuki underwhelmed everyone when he tried FPS, Nintend wouldn't be any different.

AdrianWerner
Yu Suzuki made an FPS?
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#58 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Nah. I think it would be average at best. Nobody at Nintendo simply has the experience to compete with western giants in this genre.

Even Yu Suzuki underwhelmed everyone when he tried FPS, Nintend wouldn't be any different.

SuperFlakeman

What about GoldenEye and Perfect Dark ?

You realize those were done by a UK developer, right?
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#59 AdrianWerner
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What about GoldenEye and Perfect Dark ?

SuperFlakeman

Western made. The TC specified Nintendo making it, not just publishing it. He wants a japanese-made Nintendo FPS.

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#60 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Nah. I think it would be average at best. Nobody at Nintendo simply has the experience to compete with western giants in this genre.

Even Yu Suzuki underwhelmed everyone when he tried FPS, Nintend wouldn't be any different.

nintendoboy16

Yu Suzuki made an FPS?

I'm not sure how much involvment he actually had in it, but AM2 made Outtrigger when Suzuki was the head of the studio

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#61 AmayaPapaya
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Eh, IDK. I usually go to Nintendo games to get away from everything else.

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#62 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Nah. I think it would be average at best. Nobody at Nintendo simply has the experience to compete with western giants in this genre.

Even Yu Suzuki underwhelmed everyone when he tried FPS, Nintend wouldn't be any different.

nintendoboy16

What about GoldenEye and Perfect Dark ?

You realize those were done by a UK developer, right?

I didn't read the OP :P

We can't comment on that then since there is no track record to go by.

Nintendo EAD aka "core Nintendo team" has never really made a first person perspective game period.

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#63 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Nah. I think it would be average at best. Nobody at Nintendo simply has the experience to compete with western giants in this genre.

Even Yu Suzuki underwhelmed everyone when he tried FPS, Nintend wouldn't be any different.

AdrianWerner

Yu Suzuki made an FPS?

I'm not sure how much involvment he actually had in it, but AM2 made Outtrigger when Suzuki was the head of the studio

Never knew that. Interesting.
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#64 KungfuKitten
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Really? I think the western companies leave a lot of room for improvement, and I don't view the FPS genre as being one of the more difficult genres to make a good game for. To simply try a whole different genre with a team that came together to work on RPG or platforming or action-RPG games sounds like a bad idea. Maybe if it would come with the acquisition of a small endearing dev experienced with FPS it could work.
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#65 KungfuKitten
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Eh, IDK. I usually go to Nintendo games to get away from everything else.

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Yes I think that goes for most of us. However after many years the competing developers are slowly but surely starting to create nintendo-esque games. Mostly Mario Kart competitors. So, Nintendo can't just crawl into an ever shrinking corner. They will have to keep innovating, but maybe this is also an opportunity to try and be good at more variations of games.
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#66 Wiimotefan
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First person adventure like the Prime games? Sure.

I really dont care to see anyone make a fps at this point. So sick of em and the last thing we need is for Nintendo on that bandwagon.

Unless the game really sets itself apart like the Prime series, or Oddworld Strangers Wrath I could go without fps for the rest of my days.

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#67 AdrianWerner
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First person adventure like the Prime games? Sure.

Wiimotefan

Prime were adventure games?

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#68 Wiimotefan
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[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

First person adventure like the Prime games? Sure.

AdrianWerner

Prime were adventure games?

Please man, I don't care for a semantics battle. You know exactly what I'm saying.

No, its not even close to being a traditional adventure game. Happy? But its hardly your standard fps experience either. Guess I'll say first person action adventure. Cool?

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#69 AdrianWerner
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Guess I'll say first person action adventure. Cool?

Wiimotefan

Cool because first person action adventure is exactly what it is, which is a completely different genre from adventure. Metroid Prime plays a lot more like FPS than adventure game, so you either squeeze it into FPS or just call it for what it really is -action-adventure. The second option makes much more sense.

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#70 Cherokee_Jack
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I think the Japan teams could do something cool in the first-person perspective, maybe with combat. Sounds like an Intelligent Systems thing, though I couldn't say why. A game centered on shooting dudes with firearms, though - that's not something I would trust most Japanese developers with, let alone Nintendo. It would be a cool experiment if Miyamoto busted out with an FPS, but I can't imagine he would understand the conventions of the genre very well.
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#71 simomate
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Even though Nintendo as a publisher was a pioneer of console FPS's, first with Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, and then with the Metroid Prime trilogy of games (please don't let this thread degenerate into a 'Metroid Prime isn't an FPS' discussion), they themselves have never actually quite made an FPS.

With many top Nintendo execs, including Miyamoto, expressing interest in the idea, and with Nintendo shooters, including this year's Kid Icarus: Uprising, having generally seen great success, the idea isn't completely alien.

So, my question to you all is, would you like to see a core Nintendo team develop an FPS?

charizard1605


Why not? As long as it isn't generic, COD clone like most of the others.

In any case, this is now a "Metroid Prime isn't an FPS" discussion :cool:

Metroid Prime isn't an FPS :P
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#72 TheShadowLord07
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i think japanese devs can make a good fps just as good as a western dev doing it. shinji as made vanquish(would count re4 to but i dont want to start a battle now) and last time I check people love that game and saying it was the best tps(well maybe before max payne 3 came out) this gen.we also got shadows of the damned and binary domain and those are suppose to be pretty good.so i dont see why cant a japnese dev cant do a fps.

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#73 SPYDER0416
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Goldeneye was amazing, Nintendo allowing the James Bond license and Rare to slip through was a poor move. Now we have Rare slowly dying in creative ventures while the Bond license stagnates under Activision (though they have made good efforts, but EA's Bond games were much better, especially Everything or Nothing).

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#74 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Goldeneye was amazing, Nintendo allowing the James Bond license and Rare to slip through was a poor move. Now we have Rare slowly dying in creative ventures while the Bond license stagnates under Activision (though they have made good efforts, but EA's Bond games were much better, especially Everything or Nothing).

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Nintendo letting Rare go was stupid, although from what I understand, they initially tried very hard to retain the team, and then when the core talent had left Rare, they decided to let them go, because they figured that they wouldn't be worth the cost of keeping around.
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#75 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Goldeneye was amazing, Nintendo allowing the James Bond license and Rare to slip through was a poor move. Now we have Rare slowly dying in creative ventures while the Bond license stagnates under Activision (though they have made good efforts, but EA's Bond games were much better, especially Everything or Nothing).

charizard1605

Nintendo letting Rare go was stupid, although from what I understand, they initially tried very hard to retain the team, and then when the core talent had left Rare, they decided to let them go, because they figured that they wouldn't be worth the cost of keeping around.

Rare imploded just before they sold them to MS for an insane amount of money. It was probably the best decision Nintendo ever made.

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#76 nchan
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No way. We don't want another first person shooter. There're just too many of them out there already. They all play the same anyway. Unless Nintendo do something entirely different with the genre, I'm all for it. But if they just give us a new paint with the same crappy gameplay like all the other first person shooters out there, then no.

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#77 AtariKidX
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But nintendo don't know to make a new or a good game anymore.
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#78 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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But nintendo don't know to make a new or a good game anymore.AtariKidX
Neither does Sony :(
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#79 nitekids2004
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Would probably flop in sales considering Ninty's fanbase.

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#80 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Would probably flop in sales considering Ninty's fanbase.

nitekids2004
What fanbase would this be?
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#81 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Would probably flop in sales considering Ninty's fanbase.

charizard1605

What fanbase would this be?

the one who plays cooking mama and wii sports of course

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#82 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Would probably flop in sales considering Ninty's fanbase.

TheShadowLord07

What fanbase would this be?

the one who plays cooking mama and wii sports of course

Yes, I keep forgetting that games like that are all that Nintendo fans ever play.
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#83 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]But nintendo don't know to make a new or a good game anymore.charizard1605
Neither does Sony :(

Poor kid.......you need to buy a PS3 first to see the amazing PS3 games.
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#84 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Would probably flop in sales considering Ninty's fanbase.

TheShadowLord07

What fanbase would this be?

the one who plays cooking mama and wii sports of course

Are you suggesting that Nintendo would make an FPV? First Person Vaccuumin.
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#85 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"]But nintendo don't know to make a new or a good game anymore.AtariKidX
Neither does Sony :(

Poor kid.......you need to buy a PS3 first to see the amazing PS3 games.

Yes, see, I do have a PS3, and most of the games I have for it are all Sony developed games. Unlike you, I don't comment on a system I don't own.
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#86 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] What fanbase would this be?charizard1605

the one who plays cooking mama and wii sports of course

Yes, I keep forgetting that games like that are all that Nintendo fans ever play.

Somebody is not aware of 3DS' library / sales lolol

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#87 SuperFlakeman
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Is there even a fanbase for Vita?

:lol:

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#88 SecretPolice  Online
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Yes, they should make one in the same vein as a Conker but using Mario or one of their other many characters. :D

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#89 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] What fanbase would this be?charizard1605

the one who plays cooking mama and wii sports of course

Yes, I keep forgetting that games like that are all that Nintendo fans ever play.

wait i forgot wii fit and wii music.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]the one who plays cooking mama and wii sports of course

TheShadowLord07

Yes, I keep forgetting that games like that are all that Nintendo fans ever play.

wait i forgot wii fit and wii music.

And Nintendogs.
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#91 LegatoSkyheart
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Seriously though, Nintendo could really dominate with a Portal or Mirror's Edge Type FPS Game.

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#92 PsychoLemons
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Would probably flop in sales considering Ninty's fanbase.

nitekids2004

Like that's new to any other fanbases.

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Yeah, and I want them to call it Mario Galaxy 3. Mario can be like a mushroom kingdom space marine and have the cliched solid snake attitude.

He can have his music played in a slow orchestral minor.

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#94 simomate
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Would probably flop in sales considering Ninty's fanbase.

TheShadowLord07

What fanbase would this be?

the one who plays cooking mama and wii sports of course

I assume you forget that their fanbase includes people who play Metroid Prime.
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#95 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] What fanbase would this be?simomate

the one who plays cooking mama and wii sports of course

I assume you forget that their fanbase includes people who play Metroid Prime.

i was kidding:|

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#96 stuff238
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No. A nintendo made FPS would suck. Nintendo has yet to prove it can make any game with good enemy AI. All nintendo games feature enemies who stand still waiting to be killed or enemies who walk back and forth. A current FPS has smart enemies that take cover, flank you, shoot back at you and use strategy to kill you. Nintendo doesnt know how to program games with that much AI interaction or animations. Even the mighty metroid prime had some of the dumbest AI ive even seen in a game. The bosses were horrible too because they followed to N64 standards of hit this boss here, wait, do it again 3 more times until he dies bs. Ive said it before, nintendo makes simple N64 3D games with gamecube quality graphics. They are stuck in the past and never put any money or effort into their games. Let me know when nintendo actually makes a big budget game and not something that couldve been done on the N64.
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Isn't Metroid already an FPS? If you're talking about a brand new FPS then no Nintendo should not bother. The market is already saturated with the genre the last thing we need is for Nintendo to start following that trend, they're far too talented for that. What I would like to see is a mature game directly from Nintendo, something with horror elements, and I mean real horror not being chased by Goomba's 'horror' :p

And Im to believe Nintendo owns one of my favourite IPs from last gen now, Fatal Frame. They could do a lot of good with that franchise, hopefully.
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Ive said it before, nintendo makes simple N64 3D games with gamecube quality graphics. They are stuck in the past and never put any money or effort into their games. Let me know when nintendo actually makes a big budget game and not something that couldve been done on the N64.stuff238
Super Mario Galaxy is something that can be done on N64? :lol:

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#99 YoshiYogurt
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If it's anything like Metroid Prime, count me in
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#100 ugoo18
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No. A nintendo made FPS would suck. Nintendo has yet to prove it can make any game with good enemy AI. All nintendo games feature enemies who stand still waiting to be killed or enemies who walk back and forth. A current FPS has smart enemies that take cover, flank you, shoot back at you and use strategy to kill you. Nintendo doesnt know how to program games with that much AI interaction or animations. Even the mighty metroid prime had some of the dumbest AI ive even seen in a game. The bosses were horrible too because they followed to N64 standards of hit this boss here, wait, do it again 3 more times until he dies bs. Ive said it before, nintendo makes simple N64 3D games with gamecube quality graphics. They are stuck in the past and never put any money or effort into their games. Let me know when nintendo actually makes a big budget game and not something that couldve been done on the N64.stuff238

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Someone obviously hasn't played Metroid Prime 3 then.