will the BAD NEWS about RARE LTD ever end??? LOTS of info inside.

Great thread Mayce :D, though i feel sorry for the rare devolopement team :cry:

blame rare , for dispatching goldeneye team ,, blame sony for making them dispatch a second time

and most of all blame microsoft for their greed

how many dlc do we have to pay for -seriously ,

we pay 60 for these games already , , and 50 for xbox live

and rare didnt die with cube silly , xbox killed it

rare only made 1 gamecube game and that was all that time they had, with cube

yes ill be getting perfect dark ,,

already got my 800 points waiting

if they were with sony their games would have sold better........im telling unless your shooting things......its not going to sell on the 360.......cause it caters to americans and they like to blow **** up

RARE has been headed downhill for a LONGGGGGGG time now

With the exception of PDZ single player every game that came out was a good to great EVEN Banjo Nuts and Bolts was a great game even though people never gave it a chance and to all the people that said RARE was dead how could it have died after Microsoft bought them if they came out with the Xbox conker game that people praise as a great title?

its not rares decisions, its microsofts. The only game this gen thats not being made was due to rare was any form of a conker sequel, as many members of the rare staff thought it was immature and embarassing due to its rude humour.

Terrible poll results so far. I'm disappointed with anyone who voted no, even if the majority of them are jealous ps3 fanboys or wii fanboys who think they were betrayed or something. In regard to the OP, I think Rare knows what they're doing. Every game they've released this gen has been good, maybe not great, but it still shows they are very capable developers. Between the assumptions people have made on Natal, as well as Rare, people are already expecting the worst, but there's really no reason to. Sure, Rare might be taking a risk here.. but isn't that what people want in gaming nowadays?Karnage108

Nicely done - nailed it - and agreed. :)

God, we need a new Jet Force Gemini! Oh, and an old school Banjo..!

Yah they only make AA after AA game, you guy are pathetic what do you only play AAA games :roll:

rare has definatelly flopped,

since xbox`1

their only good games believe it or not are on the gameboy and ds

and the arcade , other then that,

pd0 -sales good considering userbase at the time but now its like nothing ,

and it didnt surpass goldeneyes 8 million set in the n64 era , ,

or pds ,

so ya

they wont make another pd because they lost their goods

[QUOTE="Karnage108"]Terrible poll results so far. I'm disappointed with anyone who voted no, even if the majority of them are jealous ps3 fanboys or wii fanboys who think they were betrayed or something. mitu123

100%? Really? Not 60%? The full 100?

I would argue those are good results so far (it's almost 50/50) considering SW is made up of Hermits, Cows, Sheep that don't have a 360...and Lemmings that don't want this game at all (for whatever reason).

I'm getting it, but imagine this...some poster comes in this thread and only owns a Wii. The question is asking very simply if he is getting a PD XBLA?. Yes or No. Well, he answers no, and automatically he's a jealous Wii or PS3 fanboy thinking of betrayal?

I would assume he just isn't getting the DL XBLA game because he doesn't have a 360.:P You know? :lol:

According that guy's logic, most of the world are fanboy's FOR NOT buying PD XBLA...geez! There is no room for people not liking it, or not having a console!:P

The kicker in all of this? This isn't even going to be made by RARE? :o. It's a whole different team.:P So even the hardcore RARE fanboys are not supporting Rare on this one. :P

This Download game is made by 4J studios (not Rare? D'oh!) who made Wuggle for Iphone, AMF Bowling for DS, Breeders Cup World Thoroughbred for PS2, Star Trek for Wii and PS2, etc.

It's all good.:P

What happened to Rare? They don't work with Nintendo anymore. THAT's what happened.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Karnage108"]Terrible poll results so far. I'm disappointed with anyone who voted no, even if the majority of them are jealous ps3 fanboys or wii fanboys who think they were betrayed or something. SolidTy

100%? Really? Not 60%? The full 100?

I would argue those are good results so far (it's almost 50/50) considering SW is made up of Hermits, Cows, Sheep that don't have a 360...and Lemmings that don't want this game at all (for whatever reason).

I'm getting it, but imagine this...some poster comes in this thread and only owns a Wii. The question is asking very simply if he is getting a PD XBLA?. Yes or No. Well, he answers no, and automatically he's a jealous Wii or PS3 fanboy thinking of betrayal?

I would assume he just isn't getting the DL XBLA game because he doesn't have a 360.:P You know? :lol:

According that guy's logic, most of the world are fanboy's FOR NOT buying PD XBLA...geez! There is no room for people not liking it, or not having a console!:P

The kicker in all of this? This isn't even going to be made by RARE? :o. It's a whole different team.:P So even the hardcore RARE fanboys are not supporting Rare on this one. :P

This Download game is made by 4J studios (not Rare? D'oh!) who made Wuggle for Iphone, AMF Bowling for DS, Breeders Cup World Thoroughbred for PS2, Star Trek for Wii and PS2, etc.

It's all good.:P

That it seems is always the issue more then say the inferred posters only question.. PD XBL or not.

Oh and PD XBLA will be saweet - AAAE. :o

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Karnage108"]Terrible poll results so far. I'm disappointed with anyone who voted no, even if the majority of them are jealous ps3 fanboys or wii fanboys who think they were betrayed or something. SolidTy

100%? Really? Not 60%? The full 100?

I would argue those are good results so far (it's almost 50/50) considering SW is made up of Hermits, Cows, Sheep that don't have a 360...and Lemmings that don't want this game at all (for whatever reason).

I'm getting it, but imagine this...some poster comes in this thread and only owns a Wii. The question is asking very simply if he is getting a PD XBLA?. Yes or No. Well, he answers no, and automatically he's a jealous Wii or PS3 fanboy thinking of betrayal?

I would assume he just isn't getting the DL XBLA game because he doesn't have a 360.:P You know? :lol:

According that guy's logic, most of the world are fanboy's FOR NOT buying PD XBLA...geez! There is no room for people not liking it, or not having a console!:P

The kicker in all of this? This isn't even going to be made by RARE? :o. It's a whole different team.:P So even the hardcore RARE fanboys are not supporting Rare on this one. :P

This Download game is made by 4J studios (not Rare? D'oh!) who made Wuggle for Iphone, AMF Bowling for DS, Breeders Cup World Thoroughbred for PS2, Star Trek for Wii and PS2, etc.

It's all good.:P

Rare was dead the moment they left Nintendo.. sorry but leaving nintendo was the worst decision rare ever made.. In fact in the Rare deal only nintendo got a nice profit. since until then Rare was a hitmaker. I doubt MS is happy with the purchase..

and this is comming from someone that loved Rare more then Miyamoto himself and bought a 360 just for Rare games (and Silicon Knights game.. but Too human was a big big dissapointement) funnily enough i only really played conker remake on my 360 and didnt finished kameo since it disgusted me

Im glad Nintendo sold them and bought Retro.

Rare actually made some pretty good games this gen PDZ, Kameo, Viva Pinata.. But the problem is that, as peter moore stated late last year, the industry kinda passed by Rare. Most of the games they produce are colorful, vibrant and aren't traditional games ie. Viva and Banjo N&B.. Having said that, most of the "hardcore" gamers on the PS3/360 are looking for Hack & Slashers, FP/TPS's, and to a lessor extent Sports games. If you look at the sales numbers Ratchet & Clank didn't light up the sales charts either. I think the reason LBP was so successful was because of word of mouth and the social aspect it provided. Bottom line.. Rare's talents were redirected towards M$'s Natal project because it's the rare area (no pun intended) in which they can shine. If Rare creates a "must have" title using Natal, we'll all understand M$'s intent.

Rare actually made some pretty good games this gen PDZ, Kameo, Viva Pinata.. But the problem is that, as peter moore stated late last year, the industry kinda passed by Rare. Most of the games they produce are colorful, vibrant and aren't traditional games ie. Viva and Banjo N&B.. Having said that, most of the "hardcore" gamers on the PS3/360 are looking for Hack & Slashers, FP/TPS's, and to a lessor extent Sports games. If you look at the sales numbers Ratchet & Clank didn't light up the sales charts either. I think the reason LBP was so successful was because of word of mouth and the social aspect it provided. Bottom line.. Rare's talents were redirected towards M$'s Natal project because it's the rare area (no pun intended) in which they can shine. If Rare creates a "must have" title using Natal, we'll all understand M$'s intent.

OhSnapitz

I'm betting yes... :)

Rare actually made some pretty good games this gen PDZ, Kameo, Viva Pinata.. But the problem is that, as peter moore stated late last year, the industry kinda passed by Rare. Most of the games they produce are colorful, vibrant and aren't traditional games ie. Viva and Banjo N&B.. Having said that, most of the "hardcore" gamers on the PS3/360 are looking for Hack & Slashers, FP/TPS's, and to a lessor extent Sports games. If you look at the sales numbers Ratchet & Clank didn't light up the sales charts either. I think the reason LBP was so successful was because of word of mouth and the social aspect it provided. Bottom line.. Rare's talents were redirected towards M$'s Natal project because it's the rare area (no pun intended) in which they can shine. If Rare creates a "must have" title using Natal, we'll all understand M$'s intent.

OhSnapitz

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Rare actually made some pretty good games this gen PDZ, Kameo, Viva Pinata.. But the problem is that, as peter moore stated late last year, the industry kinda passed by Rare. Most of the games they produce are colorful, vibrant and aren't traditional games ie. Viva and Banjo N&B.. Having said that, most of the "hardcore" gamers on the PS3/360 are looking for Hack & Slashers, FP/TPS's, and to a lessor extent Sports games. If you look at the sales numbers Ratchet & Clank didn't light up the sales charts either. I think the reason LBP was so successful was because of word of mouth and the social aspect it provided. Bottom line.. Rare's talents were redirected towards M$'s Natal project because it's the rare area (no pun intended) in which they can shine. If Rare creates a "must have" title using Natal, we'll all understand M$'s intent.

farnham

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Agreed 100%.

mitu123

100%? Really? Not 60%? The full 100?

I would argue those are good results so far (it's almost 50/50) considering SW is made up of Hermits, Cows, Sheep that don't have a 360...and Lemmings that don't want this game at all (for whatever reason).

I'm getting it, but imagine this...some poster comes in this thread and only owns a Wii. The question is asking very simply if he is getting a PD XBLA?. Yes or No. Well, he answers no, and automatically he's a jealous Wii or PS3 fanboy thinking of betrayal?

I would assume he just isn't getting the DL XBLA game because he doesn't have a 360.:P You know? :lol:

According that guy's logic, most of the world are fanboy's FOR NOT buying PD XBLA...geez! There is no room for people not liking it, or not having a console!:P

The kicker in all of this? This isn't even going to be made by RARE? :o. It's a whole different team.:P So even the hardcore RARE fanboys are not supporting Rare on this one. :P

This Download game is made by 4J studios (not Rare? D'oh!) who made Wuggle for Iphone, AMF Bowling for DS, Breeders Cup World Thoroughbred for PS2, Star Trek for Wii and PS2, etc.

It's all good.:P

Great, that's one hell of a price. Sold! :P

I was planning on getting it anyways, but that was my pricepoint. Now, I get it day one...yay! :P I have exactly 800 points left over for about 6 months now, lol.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

100%? Really? Not 60%? The full 100?

I would argue those are good results so far (it's almost 50/50) considering SW is made up of Hermits, Cows, Sheep that don't have a 360...and Lemmings that don't want this game at all (for whatever reason).

I'm getting it, but imagine this...some poster comes in this thread and only owns a Wii. The question is asking very simply if he is getting a PD XBLA?. Yes or No. Well, he answers no, and automatically he's a jealous Wii or PS3 fanboy thinking of betrayal?

I would assume he just isn't getting the DL XBLA game because he doesn't have a 360.:P You know? :lol:

According that guy's logic, most of the world are fanboy's FOR NOT buying PD XBLA...geez! There is no room for people not liking it, or not having a console!:P

The kicker in all of this? This isn't even going to be made by RARE? :o. It's a whole different team.:P So even the hardcore RARE fanboys are not supporting Rare on this one. :P

This Download game is made by 4J studios (not Rare? D'oh!) who made Wuggle for Iphone, AMF Bowling for DS, Breeders Cup World Thoroughbred for PS2, Star Trek for Wii and PS2, etc.

It's all good.:P

SolidTy

Great, that's one hell of a price. Sold! :P

I was planning on getting it anyways, but that was my pricepoint. Now, I get it day one...yay! :P I have exactly 800 points left over for about 6 months now, lol.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Yeah, that's true, but this game is 800 points(10 bucks).

mitu123

Great, that's one hell of a price. Sold! :P

I was planning on getting it anyways, but that was my pricepoint. Now, I get it day one...yay! :P I have exactly 800 points left over for about 6 months now, lol.

It is a few gens ago port, so definitely some credit to be shared...but 4J deserves the most credit or blame depending. I figure, since Xbox makes all decisions for RARE at this point anyways.

Look at it this way, if it's really, really awesome in HD and online, etc...4J deserves the cred...but if it's terrible...4J deserves the blame.:P

Yeah, I don't buy pics and themes and stuff, I just sit on my points until a new game comes along. I buy in $5 or $10 intervals when possible.:P

Im glad Nintendo sold them and bought Retro.

p3anut

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

WRONG they are working on KI3

See? Do you see?

shawn7324

I wish for a Killer instinct for this gen. just hearing the commentator yelling out "ULTRAAA ULTRAA"... is orgasmic and rewarding

Perfect Dark 2 might exist, according to this link and a quote from it:

GP: In your own words, can you tell us why it's important to keep Perfect Dark alive as a franchise?

NF: Bringing the original Perfect Dark to XBLA gives us an opportunity to remind core fans just how good the first game was, whilst also introducing the franchise to a whole new generation of players who never got the opportunity to play the original.

If you want to see more of Joanna Dark on Xbox 360, the single best thing you can do is pick up Perfect Dark for Xbox LIVE Arcade. If you like it... tell your friends. We're watching this one closely!

So they are relying on the sales of this game in order to create Perfect Dark 2. Must warn friends on my friends list for 360, which is in the 90s.

And they say sales don't matter?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Karnage108"]Terrible poll results so far. I'm disappointed with anyone who voted no, even if the majority of them are jealous ps3 fanboys or wii fanboys who think they were betrayed or something. SolidTy

100%? Really? Not 60%? The full 100?

I would argue those are good results so far (it's almost 50/50) considering SW is made up of Hermits, Cows, Sheep that don't have a 360...and Lemmings that don't want this game at all (for whatever reason).

I'm getting it, but imagine this...some poster comes in this thread and only owns a Wii. The question is asking very simply if he is getting a PD XBLA?. Yes or No. Well, he answers no, and automatically he's a jealous Wii or PS3 fanboy thinking of betrayal?

I would assume he just isn't getting the DL XBLA game because he doesn't have a 360.:P You know? :lol:

According that guy's logic, most of the world are fanboy's FOR NOT buying PD XBLA...geez! There is no room for people not liking it, or not having a console!:P

The kicker in all of this? This isn't even going to be made by RARE? :o. It's a whole different team.:P So even the hardcore RARE fanboys are not supporting Rare on this one. :P

This Download game is made by 4J studios (not Rare? D'oh!) who made Wuggle for Iphone, AMF Bowling for DS, Breeders Cup World Thoroughbred for PS2, Star Trek for Wii and PS2, etc.

It's all good.:P

If the Wii user you talk about really is...why did he come into the thread any ways? its about a rare microsoft, its about a 360 only game...its not about Wii, Ps3 or any other company. he came into the thread and voted on a game he never would have gotten anyways...that makes him a fanboy. Why should people that have no ability to play the game or want to get the game cause they don't own the system its on vote? one would think it would be a poll of those capable of getting the game and weither or not they will get it. your logic is flawed the only reason to come into a thread about a game not on the system you own and vote on it when you had no intention of getting the system and the game is because your a fanboy.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Agreed 100%.

WilliamRLBaker

100%? Really? Not 60%? The full 100?

I would argue those are good results so far (it's almost 50/50) considering SW is made up of Hermits, Cows, Sheep that don't have a 360...and Lemmings that don't want this game at all (for whatever reason).

I'm getting it, but imagine this...some poster comes in this thread and only owns a Wii. The question is asking very simply if he is getting a PD XBLA?. Yes or No. Well, he answers no, and automatically he's a jealous Wii or PS3 fanboy thinking of betrayal?

I would assume he just isn't getting the DL XBLA game because he doesn't have a 360.:P You know? :lol:

According that guy's logic, most of the world are fanboy's FOR NOT buying PD XBLA...geez! There is no room for people not liking it, or not having a console!:P

The kicker in all of this? This isn't even going to be made by RARE? :o. It's a whole different team.:P So even the hardcore RARE fanboys are not supporting Rare on this one. :P

This Download game is made by 4J studios (not Rare? D'oh!) who made Wuggle for Iphone, AMF Bowling for DS, Breeders Cup World Thoroughbred for PS2, Star Trek for Wii and PS2, etc.

It's all good.:P

If the Wii user you talk about really is...why did he come into the thread any ways? its about a rare microsoft, its about a 360 only game...its not about Wii, Ps3 or any other company. he came into the thread and voted on a game he never would have gotten anyways...that makes him a fanboy. Why should people that have no ability to play the game or want to get the game cause they don't own the system its on vote? one would think it would be a poll of those capable of getting the game and weither or not they will get it. your logic is flawed the only reason to come into a thread about a game not on the system you own and vote on it when you had no intention of getting the system and the game is because your a fanboy.

No, because the TC wooed people into the thread with this title :

"will the BAD NEWS about RARE LTD ever end??? LOTS of info inside."

SW is a place of information, and many different types are on the boards. So, let's go with the Wii guy again.

New information on Rare, a previous Nintendo exclusive developer. Lots of info inside promised by the TC. Seems like a great information thread.

Then, when he comes in, there is a poll. He answers honestly, and reads about the info.

Besides, there are many, many, many 360 owners that won't be buying this, and some of those guys could again, pop in the thread, and just vote no, but want the information. Again, they wouldn't be a fanboy.

Sure, fanboy's definitely vote in polls, they are broke in SW for years, but the original statement is just false.

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"Terrible poll results so far. I'm disappointed with anyone who voted no, even if the majority of them are jealous ps3 fanboys or wii fanboys who think they were betrayed or something."

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How can he knows who the majority is, in fact, if anything if Cows and Sheep ran this poll, XBLA PD wouldn't be winning...but it is.

All I'm saying is it's not a fanboy thing just to not like or want a game, or even if you do want it, the question specifically askes if they are going to get it. If they don't own a 360, and they are being honest, the answer is no.

Perfect Dark 2 might exist, according to this link and a quote from it:

GP: In your own words, can you tell us why it's important to keep Perfect Dark alive as a franchise?

NF: Bringing the original Perfect Dark to XBLA gives us an opportunity to remind core fans just how good the first game was, whilst also introducing the franchise to a whole new generation of players who never got the opportunity to play the original.

If you want to see more of Joanna Dark on Xbox 360, the single best thing you can do is pick up Perfect Dark for Xbox LIVE Arcade. If you like it... tell your friends. We're watching this one closely!

So they are relying on the sales of this game in order to create Perfect Dark 2. Must warn friends on my friends list for 360, which is in the 90s.

And they say sales don't matter?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Perfect Dark 2 might exist, according to this link and a quote from it:

GP: In your own words, can you tell us why it's important to keep Perfect Dark alive as a franchise?

NF: Bringing the original Perfect Dark to XBLA gives us an opportunity to remind core fans just how good the first game was, whilst also introducing the franchise to a whole new generation of players who never got the opportunity to play the original.

If you want to see more of Joanna Dark on Xbox 360, the single best thing you can do is pick up Perfect Dark for Xbox LIVE Arcade. If you like it... tell your friends. We're watching this one closely!

So they are relying on the sales of this game in order to create Perfect Dark 2. Must warn friends on my friends list for 360, which is in the 90s.

And they say sales don't matter?

mayceV

[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

Perfect Dark 2 might exist, according to this link and a quote from it:

GP: In your own words, can you tell us why it's important to keep Perfect Dark alive as a franchise?

NF: Bringing the original Perfect Dark to XBLA gives us an opportunity to remind core fans just how good the first game was, whilst also introducing the franchise to a whole new generation of players who never got the opportunity to play the original.

If you want to see more of Joanna Dark on Xbox 360, the single best thing you can do is pick up Perfect Dark for Xbox LIVE Arcade. If you like it... tell your friends. We're watching this one closely!

So they are relying on the sales of this game in order to create Perfect Dark 2. Must warn friends on my friends list for 360, which is in the 90s.

And they say sales don't matter?

"Rare" is meant to describe the number of actual good games coming out of that studio.beekayjay