@no-scope-AK47 said:
If all Sony and MS had were the same games you would have a valid point. Sony has 1st party/2nd party and 3rd party basically the most games on console. As seen on the video Nindendo is missing 150 game choices already. Add in the worst online gaming and not even blu-ray playback with 32gb of storage (same as many cell phones) with the weaksauce hardware and the value of the wii u is a joke.
Online gaming and blu-ray playback are functions of other devices not suited to console gaming. The storage can be expanded infinitely with the user's choice of external HDD's (including 2-4TB devices) and the hardware is capable of 1080p @ 60 fps (in as many cases as the PS4 and Xbone). You seem to have made a conclusion and are reaching for reasons to support it.
The Wii U has been good at one thing all this time since it's release: delivering stellar, varied, first party experiences.
@glez13 said:
Probably because that's basically all there is to play most of the time on Nintendo systems. Having almost no 3rd party is a big hit.
"Basically all there is to play" despite the Wii U having the most highly-rated exclusives of all "next-gen" consoles on Metacritic and that won't be changing until well into 2015 (IIRC, it has more than the other two platforms combined). People seem to hold Nintendo to this unrealistically high standard, and then don't apply the same logic to Sony and Microsoft, despite them being guilty of the same things.
@AzatiS said:
Oh , what logic is this ... what is your IQ !!!? :)
The problem is not how many games .... its the fact that every single generation since SNES or N64 if you like , Nintendo provides almost the very same IPs !
Do you get it now ? Zelda / Mario and Metroid are like what .... 30 years old !! Solid games ? Sure but ... same titles and experience , especially when it comes to Smash and Kart or in some cases worse experience than older releases ( for example Twilight princess worse than OoT or SSBB worse than melle)
That is why people getting tired already and the issue here is that ... new age of gamers .. dont feel this nostalgia and dont give a crap about Mario or Metroid or Kart and thats what killing Wii U this very moment ! Newcomers into video gaming dont give a crap !
Most of Nintendo's first party game franchises see more varied changes to their basic formula than Sony/MS's "new" first party IP's. How many similarities were there between Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess? Aside from the basic formula of "Zelda is kidnapped by Ganon, Link needs to save the day, goes to find tools to get through dungeons" almost nothing was the same (and IIRC, Majora's Mask's story was entirely contrary to the established formula).
How much has God of War, Uncharted, Forza Motorsport and Killzone changed, fundamentally, over the years they have been available? Almost nothing.
Nintendo is held to a completely different standard for originality it seems, and Sony and MS are given free passes to pass off the exact same experiences every generation only if they put a new coat of paint over them (i.e. a "new IP").
Should we bring in the ratings argument? How many main-line Mario and Zelda games have scored below 95 on Metacritic? How many God of War's, Killzones, Halos and Gears of Wars? Some of the highest rated games OF ALL TIME are Nintendo games.
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