Why is the DS4 battery so bad?

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#1 Posted by FLOPPAGE_50 (770 posts) -

Compared to the DS3 that would last ages, the DS4 is terrible.. the battery lasts 5/6 hours max and needs to be constantly charging or charged.

at this point, i'd take replaceable batteries that could last ages, my Xbox 360 when using normal batteries would last a good 15-20 hours

How long does the X1 controller battery last? because right now the PS4 is great but the controller is awful.

#2 Edited by stereointegrity (10680 posts) -

i played killzone today for a little over seven hours and it was down to half way.....

#3 Posted by aroxx_ab (9157 posts) -

Must be that lighting thing that drain it

#4 Edited by KillzoneSnake (1635 posts) -

it has a lot of stuff, light, speaker, rumble... as an online gamer i gotta turn rumble off so i get much more battery time.

#5 Posted by sukraj (21660 posts) -

This is why I'm getting a play N charge kit for the xbox one.

#6 Posted by Mr-Kutaragi (1867 posts) -

i played killzone today for a little over seven hours and it was down to half way.....

dat first post troll kill. Ouch.

#7 Edited by EddyG0RD0 (2567 posts) -

why does xbox controller still uses batteries?

#8 Posted by remiks00 (1548 posts) -

i played killzone today for a little over seven hours and it was down to half way.....

I haven't had a chance to evaluate my DS4 battery life properly. I've been working so much I haven't had a chance to really play since launch week. But from what I remember I think mine was at the halfway point after 6-7 hours I think. At least that's what it felt like lol

#9 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (3807 posts) -

why does xbox controller still uses batteries?

Did you want it to use solar power or something?

#10 Edited by PinkiePirate (2083 posts) -

My friends and I played it from 6pm to 2am (8 hours) last night and I never got the "low battery" notification. It wasn't even fully charged when I started playing.

#11 Posted by danabo (2474 posts) -

@EddyG0RD0 said:

why does xbox controller still uses batteries?

Did you want it to use solar power or something?

#12 Edited by XxR3m1xInHDn3D (1967 posts) -

@EddyG0RD0 said:

why does xbox controller still uses batteries?

It still uses batteries because despite popular system wars belief, they are superior to USB charging when it comes to gaming controllers. You DON'T need to buy the official Microsoft play and charge kit as I have a rechargeable battery stand and 2 pairs of rechargeable batteries since 2005 and they still work for up to 15 hours each. If I have one pair charged I can take the back off my controller and replace them in 2 seconds once every 15 hours. How exactly is that a bad thing?

#13 Posted by JangoWuzHere (15940 posts) -

In my experience, my DS4 battery drains in 8-9 hours of gameplay. It really doesn't bother me, I'm close enough to my PS4 to plug in the cord and still play.

#14 Posted by Suppaman100 (3609 posts) -

LOL at the lemmings defending old previous gen tech.

#15 Posted by mems_1224 (45841 posts) -

LOL at the lemmings defending old previous gen tech.

isn't a built in battery old previous gen tech?? lol idiot.

#16 Posted by Suppaman100 (3609 posts) -

@Suppaman100 said:

LOL at the lemmings defending old previous gen tech.

isn't a built in battery old previous gen tech?? lol idiot.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA! You butthurt fool!

Are you really defending batteries now?

Have fun with your previous gen console lems.

#17 Posted by GTSaiyanjin2 (5700 posts) -

So why didn't MS include rechargeables again? People say it uses AA batteries, so you can have options. But why not include at least one battery for the controller. The PS4 is fine as long as you recharge the controller over night, leave the PS4 in standby mode, otherwise it wont recharge the controller.

#18 Edited by mems_1224 (45841 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

LOL at the lemmings defending old previous gen tech.

isn't a built in battery old previous gen tech?? lol idiot.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA! You butthurt fool!

Are you really defending batteries now?

Have fun with your previous gen console lems.

moo

#19 Posted by ohgeez (909 posts) -

@FLOPPAGE_50: As some websites have been reporting, the DS4 controller seems to have vastly superior sensitivity to the motion controls versus the sixaxis controller. I'm sure that and the light inside have something to do with it.

Personally, I enjoyed the sixaxis controls and wish more games supported it. There were some great examples in a few games such as flow, flower, and folklore. Folklore was actually a great example of how it should be implemented into a more "core" game. Think about it. One of the best wii games, mario galaxy, simply used the motion control shake as an extra button.

On another note, some games had poor implementation like the original uncharted grenade throws. But surprisingly unpopular knowledge was the fact that grenades were also mapped to a button on the controller and there was no obligation to use the six axis.

#20 Posted by Mr-Kutaragi (1867 posts) -

LOL at the lemmings defending old previous gen tech.

lemming love AA bettery milking from MS. Xbone is two gen behind haha.

#21 Posted by RR360DD (11425 posts) -

Because it has to power like 10 different gimmicks that Sony stuck in the controller.

#22 Posted by TheRealBigRich (707 posts) -

After getting my 4 pack eneloop rechargeable batteries i would say batteries aren't that bad of a deal. I would say if i had to choose i would want built in battery pack as long as it last a long time . If its only going to last 6 hours I would take the replacement batteries

#23 Edited by k2theswiss (16598 posts) -

because sony wanted put entire lightbulb on the controller.

While MS just put 2 little red dots on there's... Does the same thing lol

#24 Posted by Truth_Hurts_U (9054 posts) -

Yes it does die rather fast compared to what last gen offered. It's because of that damn light on the front. They need an option to turn it off.

Other then that it charges fast around 2 hours or less.

#25 Edited by _Matt_ (8799 posts) -

@k2theswiss said:

because sony wanted put entire lightbulb on the controller.

While MS just put 2 little red dots on there's... Does the same thing lol

It uses LEDs which consume next to no power at all. You could power the LEDs (when alone) in the back of the Dualshock for probably 4 days straight before losing power.

It's the rest of the controller that takes the charge, and they probably have too many resistors in there wasting power as well which won't help

#26 Posted by Heil68 (42747 posts) -

I'm getting 11-12 hours of playtime with mine.

#27 Posted by Heil68 (42747 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@k2theswiss said:

because sony wanted put entire lightbulb on the controller.

While MS just put 2 little red dots on there's... Does the same thing lol

It uses LEDs which consume next to no power at all. You could power the LEDs (when alone) in the back of the Dualshock for probably 4 days straight before losing power.

#28 Edited by blue_hazy_basic (27244 posts) -

@Suppaman100 said:

LOL at the lemmings defending old previous gen tech.

isn't a built in battery old previous gen tech?? lol idiot.

lol *dips hat*

#29 Posted by Truth_Hurts_U (9054 posts) -

@_Matt_:

They are using a high watt LED and not a half watt.

The brighter the LED the more power it takes.

#30 Posted by shellcase86 (1934 posts) -

Valid point, TC. However, I don't do gaming marathon sessions so not a concern. I imagine they will tweak the controller to get more battery life though in the next few years.

#31 Posted by OhSnapitz (17957 posts) -

8 hours? 12 hours? I'm calling bull shit. I may get 6-7 hours out of a fully charged battery. The battery life on the DS4 is terrible but considering how many bells and whistles they threw in.. I'm not surprised.

#32 Edited by Sagem28 (10498 posts) -

@Suppaman100 said:

LOL at the lemmings defending old previous gen tech.

isn't a built in battery old previous gen tech?? lol idiot.

It is.
And AA batteries is freaking Game Boy age tech.

#33 Posted by PAL360 (26588 posts) -

does the ds4 come will full batery charge?

#34 Edited by Truth_Hurts_U (9054 posts) -

@PAL360:

No, all reachable devices always come with half or low charge... Unless other wise stated.

My PS4 remote had right around half charge when I connected it to my PS4 on launch day during system setup.

#35 Edited by PAL360 (26588 posts) -
#36 Posted by Heil68 (42747 posts) -

@Sagem28 said:

@mems_1224 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

LOL at the lemmings defending old previous gen tech.

isn't a built in battery old previous gen tech?? lol idiot.

It is.

And AA batteries is freaking Game Boy age tech.

#37 Posted by l34052 (3068 posts) -

@Suppaman100 said:

LOL at the lemmings defending old previous gen tech.

isn't a built in battery old previous gen tech?? lol idiot.

No its convenient reliable technology that works.

#38 Posted by MBirdy88 (7216 posts) -

it has a lot of stuff, light, speaker, rumble... as an online gamer i gotta turn rumble off so i get much more battery time.

what is the speaker like? does it add any little charming effects like the Wii-Mote did with certain games? (e.g zelda)

#39 Edited by k2theswiss (16598 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@k2theswiss said:

because sony wanted put entire lightbulb on the controller.

While MS just put 2 little red dots on there's... Does the same thing lol

It uses LEDs which consume next to no power at all. You could power the LEDs (when alone) in the back of the Dualshock for probably 4 days straight before losing power.

It's the rest of the controller that takes the charge, and they probably have too many resistors in there wasting power as well which won't help

not my fault they wanted put weak ass 1000mh battery in there.

#40 Posted by dobzilian (2475 posts) -

Stil almost double the time of a wiiu game pad.

#41 Posted by Gue1 (9178 posts) -

can't the controller be opened up to cut the cable that feeds the led? I used to open up my DS3 to cut the cables of the rumble since I always hated the feature... And that led looks like it's gonna annoy the hell out of me even worse than the rumble.

#42 Posted by sts106mat (18799 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

can't the controller be opened up to cut the cable that feeds the led? I used to open up my DS3 to cut the cables of the rumble since I always hated the feature... And that led looks like it's gonna annoy the hell out of me even worse than the rumble.

surely you could just switch the rumble off in the games / settings without the need to do that.

#43 Posted by clr84651 (5285 posts) -

If gaming for 7-9 hours without having to recharge is short, then people have some real issues. Buy extra controllers that charge while you're playing or take a frickin break for an hour.

#44 Posted by Zophar87 (4337 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

LOL at the lemmings defending old previous gen tech.

isn't a built in battery old previous gen tech?? lol idiot.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA! You butthurt fool!

Are you really defending batteries now?

Have fun with your previous gen console lems.

If read closely, he isn't defending shit. He's just making you look stupid.

#45 Edited by AmazonTreeBoa (16505 posts) -

TC is either trolling or got a bad battery in his controller.

#46 Posted by Gue1 (9178 posts) -

why does xbox controller still uses batteries?

because M$ are always behind the curve when it comes to tech. That's why Xbox has always been so redundant.

#47 Edited by sts106mat (18799 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

@EddyG0RD0 said:

why does xbox controller still uses batteries?

because M$ are always behind the curve when it comes to tech. That's why Xbox has always been so redundant.

twonk

#48 Edited by _Matt_ (8799 posts) -

@_Matt_:

They are using a high watt LED and not a half watt.

The brighter the LED the more power it takes.

I compensated for that by halving the time. A standard LED would happily go for roughly 8 days, so I figured 4 for the LED found in the DS4. Obviously no specifics are known as such about that LED, so it's rough. Either way though, I highly doubt the LED is having a significant enough impact on the controller battery life to result in less than half the drain time of the DS3.

#49 Edited by II_Seraphim_II (20486 posts) -

i played killzone today for a little over seven hours and it was down to half way.....

I think thats good battery life. Anyone that sits down for 14hrs+ of continuous gaming really needs to reevaluate their life. Heck, even 5hrs straight is pushing it. After 3 hours or so you should probably head outside and do something productive or hell, just get some vitamin D, and your controller can be on the charger while you do that.

#50 Posted by GoldenElementXL (2626 posts) -

The DS4 battery does drain a lot faster than the DS3. I would say in my experiences it lasts around 8 hours. It charges pretty quick though which is nice. I also have the play and charge kit for the 2 Xbox One controllers I have. Those controllers last noticeably longer than the DS4. But there is no speaker so it makes sense.