Why doesn't Sony publish their own RPGs anymore?

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#1 Edited by SolidGame_basic (16572 posts) -

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

#2 Posted by Senor_Kami (8299 posts) -

Sony thinks globally and the type of RPGs that sell well on a global level require a massive investment. Additionally, it really is just Bethesda that can do it with success unless you count Mass Effect where they get rid of RPG gameplay, don't make it open world, and it's essentially a shooter with dialog choices. Sony could probably get away with some Uncharted w/Dialog Choices but I don't think that's the type of thing you're looking for.

#3 Posted by Cloud_imperium (2314 posts) -

Audience .

#4 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (6071 posts) -

Cutbacks from a dying company.

Fun fact: the PS4 is the cheapest console to produce out of all the playstations. EVER.

Tune in for more signs of a corporate giant about to go belly up.

#5 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (6707 posts) -

Who cares? A system doesn't need RPG's to be awesome.

#6 Posted by Shewgenja (8364 posts) -

RPGs take a lot of resources to make and the genre has been shrinking thanks to your tried and true franchises like Final Fantasy absolutely tanking in quality and sales. Also, the big RPGs have moved to handheld like DragonQuest. Essentially the third party has shrunk the fanbase on consoles where it was once dominant. Sony takes risks (LittleBigPlanet, just to shut the idiots in this thread down like the sad jokes they are), but they are calculated risks. A large-scale RPG would be more than a calculated risk. I would be SHOCKED if Sony published an internal RPG ever again.

#7 Posted by bbkkristian (14928 posts) -

@speedfreak48t5p: I beg to differ.

Likely because Sony has the same mindset as Square Enix that there is no audience to obtain a profit (which is wrong on many accounts). JRPGs are doing better today than they have in the past five years.

#8 Edited by KratosYOLOSwag (312 posts) -

There are 2 RPGs in works at Sony right now.

#9 Posted by Nonstop-Madness (9467 posts) -

Cutbacks from a dying company.

Fun fact: the PS4 is the cheapest console to produce out of all the playstations. EVER.

Tune in for more signs of a corporate giant about to go belly up.

So please explain to all of us how Sony published more RPG's during the PS1 era than the PS2 era because as far as I know Sony was at it's peak when the PS2 was released (circa 2000).

Yeah, I didn't think so because this has nothing to do with Sony and everything to do with how the Japanese gaming industry has consistently been dropping the ball generation after generation. Sony can't publish RPG's because 1, they don't have developers that really develop RPG's and 2, there's barely anyone out there willing to develop an RPG.

#10 Posted by Gamerno66666 (161 posts) -

They don't need to. The whole JRPG genre seems to be exclusive to sony.

#11 Posted by DrRockso87 (2507 posts) -

They seem to be relying on third-party Japanese support right now to deliver exclusive titles (e.g. Tales of, Ni No Kuni, Disgaea, Drakengard, etc.) while third-party multiplat RPGs do a good enough job as well but yeah. Sony really need to up their game.

I think we'll see an increase from Sony Japan Studio this generation. There are rumors that the developers of Soul Sacrifice on the Vita have a new game in development for PS4. We'll see.

#12 Edited by TigerSuperman (1975 posts) -

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

Grandia has nothing do with Sony actually.. The rest other than Darkcloud are owned by Sony.

#13 Edited by SolidGame_basic (16572 posts) -

@SolidGame_basic said:

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

Grandia has nothing do with Sony actually.. The rest other than Darkcloud are owned by Sony.

Sony did publish Grandia in North America

#14 Posted by misterpmedia (3363 posts) -

Time will tell I assume.

#15 Posted by lamprey263 (22884 posts) -

probably because they're aiming at titles with potential for greater commercial success, JRPGs are kind of niche, they can be good but that won't guarantee great returns on their investment

#16 Posted by Netret0120 (2009 posts) -

JRPG'S are dominated on sony consoles anyways and 3DS is the only device Sony have to compete with on that front.

#17 Edited by FlamesOfGrey (7479 posts) -

@TigerSuperman said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

Grandia has nothing do with Sony actually.. The rest other than Darkcloud are owned by Sony.

Sony owns the Dark Cloud franchise not Level 5.

#19 Posted by Rocky_Denace (143 posts) -

Time will tell I assume.

Maybe because Sony is Broke

#20 Posted by misterpmedia (3363 posts) -

@misterpmedia said:

Time will tell I assume.

Maybe because Sony is Broke

Time will prove you wrong. Hence my comment.

#21 Posted by lundy86_4 (42877 posts) -

They aren't as big as they used to be... Most JRPG fans have likely migrated to the handhelds... *cough*... The 3DS :P

#22 Posted by cainetao11 (16672 posts) -

Cut backs in money. See SNE financials

#23 Posted by Rocky_Denace (143 posts) -

@rocky_denace said:

@misterpmedia said:

Time will tell I assume.

Maybe because Sony is Broke

Time will prove you wrong. Hence my comment.

Sony has been closing studios and losing IP's and their credit is listed as junk not to mention they are selling off most of their divisions. This is a crumbling company that has been happing for a few years now. It's entirely possible Sony could go bankrupt and not even make it through this entire gen even with the PS4 selling good. This is reality of the situation sorry if this hurts you but look up the facts.

#24 Edited by misterpmedia (3363 posts) -

@misterpmedia said:

@rocky_denace said:

@misterpmedia said:

Time will tell I assume.

Maybe because Sony is Broke

Time will prove you wrong. Hence my comment.

Sony has been closing studios and losing IP's and their credit is listed as junk not to mention they are selling off most of their divisions. This is a crumbling company that has been happing for a few years now. It's entirely possible Sony could go bankrupt and not even make it through this entire gen even with the PS4 selling good. This is reality of the situation sorry if this hurts you but look up the facts.

Time will tell, as I said.

#25 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (6071 posts) -

@Nonstop-Madness: cutbacks.

#26 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28344 posts) -

Cutbacks from a dying company.

Fun fact: the PS4 is the cheapest console to produce out of all the playstations. EVER.

Tune in for more signs of a corporate giant about to go belly up.

that's not something I would be proud of as a lemming since the xbox dOne has inferior parts in it and yet still costs 500 dollars, even If that 100 difference is because of kinect the xbox dOne Would still be 400 dollars for a product with inferior internals.

#27 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (6071 posts) -

@WilliamRLBaker: in my world the Xbox One doesn't consist of inferior parts.

#28 Posted by MonsieurX (29284 posts) -
#29 Posted by danten81 (129 posts) -

Those are all JRPGs, and Legend of Dragoon was in reaction to FFVII. Squaresoft nailed that game, and the commercials at the time showed outstanding CG videos to entice the more casual audience.

Things have changed so much. The 360/PS3 generation grew up with more Western games/genres.

#30 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (13164 posts) -

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

The creator of Grandia also died back in 2011 :(

#31 Posted by cfisher2833 (1554 posts) -

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

Did Sony actually publish those games though? Regardless, the reason those games aren't being published is because they would cost too much money to produce with modern visuals, and the market isn't there to support it. You'd probably see quite a few more JRPGs if Japanese devs took their heads out of their asses and stopped limiting themselves with the traditional console retail release model.

#32 Posted by Nengo_Flow (9401 posts) -

Becuz Sony knows I dont care for RPGs, much less JRPGs

#33 Posted by hippiesanta (9774 posts) -

because Sony is knows that Third Person game like uncharted will sell more and more likely to get awards....

where can u find FPS/RPG with awards these days ..... well ... only a small portion

#34 Edited by KBFloYd (12994 posts) -

when japan turns it back on you...you turn your back on japan

#35 Posted by stationplay_4 (443 posts) -
#36 Posted by Heil68 (43285 posts) -

They don't need to. The whole JRPG genre seems to be exclusive to sony.

Live, Learn and Love, the SONY way,

#37 Posted by Shewgenja (8364 posts) -

@misterpmedia said:

Time will tell I assume.

Maybe because Sony is Broke

Holy shit! How do you come up with such an original burn? Like, dude! Fresh out the box! Never heard it before. Someone get this man a cookie, this thread has been officially shut down!

#38 Posted by Gaming-Planet (13901 posts) -

Because Sony knows the west wants the cowadoodies and doges.

#39 Posted by j_assassin (885 posts) -

They seem to follow whats popular in the US and at the moment its still shooters, hopefully the rpgs comes back this gen, although it doesnt seem like it, US gamers loves shooting stuff

#40 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (6071 posts) -

@MonsieurX: exactly my point. My special world is the world of truth.

#41 Posted by Suppaman100 (3730 posts) -

How many exclusive RPG's did 360 had last gen? LOL

#42 Posted by Floppy_Jim (25562 posts) -

Demon's Souls 2!

Hopefully...

There was Soul Sacrifce a little while ago but that lacks common ground with the games you mentioned.

#43 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (6071 posts) -

@misterpmedia said:

Time will tell I assume.

Maybe because Sony is Broke

Dude I have seen some F'd up Avatars and Names on here but yours in simply brilliant. Bravo!

#44 Edited by LJS9502_basic (150088 posts) -

They really don't need to publish their own.....they have RPGs enough.

#45 Posted by ChronosChris (172 posts) -

@WilliamRLBaker: in my world the Xbox One doesn't consist of inferior parts.

Yes, your own little delusional world where Xbone is beating PS4.

#46 Posted by Gue1 (9466 posts) -

aren't they making a new Wild Arms for the Vita or something?

#47 Posted by ominous_titan (563 posts) -

Sony is broke and sold the farm to make one last console. I'll be surprised if the company makes it to the true ending of the cycle without selling the play station brand.

#48 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (6071 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@WilliamRLBaker: in my world the Xbox One doesn't consist of inferior parts.

Yes, your own little delusional world where Xbone is beating PS4.

Did you come up with that great material all on your own? I see an new SW King in the making.

#49 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (13164 posts) -

Sony is broke and sold the farm to make one last console. I'll be surprised if the company makes it to the true ending of the cycle without selling the play station brand.

You mean like 360?

#50 Edited by ChronosChris (172 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@chronoschris said:
@FoxbatAlpha said:

@WilliamRLBaker: in my world the Xbox One doesn't consist of inferior parts.

Yes, your own little delusional world where Xbone is beating PS4.

Did you come up with that great material all on your own? I see an new SW King in the making.

So you accept my response as correct? Good. I'm glad that you could come to terms with your delusional xboner behavior. It's good to be honest with yourself.