Why are Valve still treating PS3 like trash?

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#1 normal_gamer
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Seriously,that makes zero sense to me. First they admit that they "Messed up on PS3" and then they announce that there's "No Portal 2 for PS3".

As I see it they are still treating the PS3 like trash by not porting any of their games to it and thinking of PS3 ports as an afterthought,why is that?

Thanks.

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#2 Phoenix534
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Gabe Newell is a massive ******bag.

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#3 AnnoyedDragon
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People make it sound like developers are obligated to release games on their platform of choice.

Although development expenses are driving developers cross platform, who they make games for at the end of the day is still entirely up to them. Valve has low development expenses thanks to the use of their old engine, two platforms (PC/360) must be enough for them right now.

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#4 Xire_XII
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Treating the PS3 like trash =/= Not wanting to develop for the PS3 for their own good reasons.

They're not obligated to develop games for the PS3. I think they are considering on giving it some thought in the future but I wouldn't expect any projects as of right now to happen for it.

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#5 killzonexbox
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I mean, why not just release the game on the ps3 and expand there potential market. The ps3 must have a fairly close market share by now and its growing everyday, I can think of maybe 3 reasons why they don't: 1)They're lazy and don't wanna learn the ps3 2)They're not happy with their skill with the ps3 yet and want their first proper release on the system to be of a high standard.(hopefully) 3)(For the conspiracy lovers)Microsoft t in coalition with the reverse vampires are paying them off not to release titles for the ps3 in an effort to destroy the ps3 and eliminate the meal of dinner.
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#6 dontshackzmii
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valbe knows they wont do well with ps3. they are a lazy small team who love old techology . they are a 1 trick pony . they will make a fps with some theme like tf2 .

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#7 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="normal_gamer"]

Seriously,that makes zero sense to me. First they admit that they "Messed up on PS3" and then they announce that there's "No Portal 2 for PS3".

As I see it they are still treating the PS3 like trash by not porting any of their games to it and thinking of PS3 ports as an afterthought,why is that?

Thanks.

Valve apparently wants to beat SE when it comes to BS-ing the public
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#8 Jipset
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Gabe Newell is a massive ******bag.

Phoenix534
I agree.
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#10 normal_gamer
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People make it sound like developers are obligated to release games on their platform of choice.

Although development expenses are driving developers cross platform, who they make games for at the end of the day is still entirely up to them. Valve has low development expenses thanks to the use of their old engine, two platforms (PC/360) must be enough for them right now.

AnnoyedDragon

Did I ever mention that they are "obligated" to develop for the PS3? :? I understand that porting their games to the PS3 may not help their business,but why they try to look like they care for PS3 development even though that doesn't seem to be the case is beyond me.

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#11 EndorphinMaster
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"Mass Effect 2? pfft...we can play that on our super PC"

"WTF Valve not developing for teh ps3!? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU VALVE!"

:|

:lol:

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#12 patriots7672
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It's "Why is Valve still treating PS3 like trash?" The answer is because Valve is a blind Xbox fan.

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#13 Karnage108
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Because the ps3 is not worthy of Valve's greatness.
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#14 SF_KiLLaMaN
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It's "Why is Valve still treating PS3 like trash?" The answer is because Valve is a blind Xbox fan.

patriots7672
So when console games don't get ported to PC it's fine but when A PC game doesn't get ported to a console it is suddenly a big issue? hypocrites.
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#15 normal_gamer
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[QUOTE="93soccer"]Looky here, all the Valve hate threads started again. Seriously, do you cows have nothing better to do?

I'm not even a fanboy or favor any system over another,heck I was happy when FF XIII got ported to the Xbox 360 because more gamers get to play it,but I just don't see why Valve are still ignoring PS3 ports of their games even though they promised that "They will get better on the system".
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#16 VendettaRed07
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Gabe Newell is a massive ******bag.

Phoenix534

No not really. His reasons for not developing for the ps3 make total sense. They have to put twice as much work in, spend more money ect. to make the ps3 version every bit as good as the 360 version, and in the end it will only sell half the copies anyway. I dont get why people find that so ridiculous. I mean with how massive their games are on 360 and especially PC, they dont need to at all. Its just not worth it

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#17 buddog22
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It's about minimizing costs. They also might have internal data suggesting PS3 owners play Portal less than PC and 360 players so they decided it wasn't worth it to support the PS3. Far fetched? Perhaps.

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#18 True_Gamer_
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People make it sound like developers are obligated to release games on their platform of choice.

Although development expenses are driving developers cross platform, who they make games for at the end of the day is still entirely up to them. Valve has low development expenses thanks to the use of their old engine, two platforms (PC/360) must be enough for them right now.

AnnoyedDragon
And yet EA dished millions into the FIFA engine and billions into licences and still keeps it exclusive to PS3/Xbox360....(PC FIFA is PS2 port) go figure....
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#19 EndorphinMaster
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It's "Why is Valve still treating PS3 like trash?" The answer is because Valve is a blind Xbox fan.

patriots7672

How can Vale be Xbox fanboys when none of their games are exclusive? :o

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#20 Richymisiak
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because they don't *have* to develop for the ps3 if they don't want to? I know that cows have trouble understanding this...
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#21 normal_gamer
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"Mass Effect 2? pfft...we can play that on our super PC"

"WTF Valve not developing for teh ps3!? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU VALVE!"

:|

:lol:

EndorphinMaster

"It's a PS3 exclusive because only teh cell can handle it!!"

"It's an Xbox 360 Exclusive? Lazy devs can't work with teh cell!!"

:shock::|:lol:

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#22 AHUGECAT
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Because their games would sell like trash on the PS3?

Valve has NO reason to release on the PS3, it's not profitable or worth the time.

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#23 tomarlyn
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They underestimate the power of playstation

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#24 nervmeister
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because they don't *have* to develop for the ps3 if they don't want to? I know that cows have trouble understanding this...Richymisiak
Doesn't stop lemmings from making countless threads declaring that ports for MGS4 or Versus XIII will be made despite their respective heads of development being PS loyalists and repeatedly stating that they will remain exclusive.
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#25 2mrw
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let's just be honest here guys, games like left4dead and portal will never sell well on the PS3 (speculations), i think they will start developing on the PS3 when a bigger project is planned, something like HL3.

anyway, portal was great, half life 1 was great, their other games are just turn off for me.

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#26 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="Richymisiak"]because they don't *have* to develop for the ps3 if they don't want to? I know that cows have trouble understanding this...nervmeister
Doesn't stop lemmings from making countless threads declaring that ports for MGS4 or Versus XIII will be made despite their respective heads of development being PS loyalists and repeatedly stating that they will remain exclusive.

Lemmings want MGS4 because we ended up getting every other former PlayStation exclusive (ie Devil May Cry, Tekken, Final Fantasy) and the Xbox got Metal Gear Solid 2. Valve will NEVER develop for the PS3, and that's a guarantee. No reason to.

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#27 Mystic-G
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Because Valve is racist against Sony.

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#28 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Would you rather the game gets released but is a piece of crap ala the Orange Box or wait and possibly get the release but with the same polish Valve uses on the 360 and of course PC?

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#29 normal_gamer
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Would you rather the game gets released but is a piece of crap ala the Orange Box or wait and possibly get the release but with the same polish Valve uses on the 360 and of course PC?

Whiteblade999
But why would it be a piece of crap? We still don't know when the game will be released or how much time it will take from them to develop.
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#30 2mrw
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Richymisiak"]because they don't *have* to develop for the ps3 if they don't want to? I know that cows have trouble understanding this...AHUGECAT

Doesn't stop lemmings from making countless threads declaring that ports for MGS4 or Versus XIII will be made despite their respective heads of development being PS loyalists and repeatedly stating that they will remain exclusive.

Lemmings want MGS4 because we ended up getting every other former PlayStation exclusive (ie Devil May Cry, Tekken, Final Fantasy) and the Xbox got Metal Gear Solid 2. Valve will NEVER develop for the PS3, and that's a guarantee. No reason to.

but but, valve already developed for the PS3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"Mass Effect 2? pfft...we can play that on our super PC"

"WTF Valve not developing for teh ps3!? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU VALVE!"

:|

:lol:

EndorphinMaster

:lol:

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#32 Holden1985
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They underestimate the power of playstation

tomarlyn

Lmao sony and there adverts, i think there gettingworse though:shock:

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#33 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] Doesn't stop lemmings from making countless threads declaring that ports for MGS4 or Versus XIII will be made despite their respective heads of development being PS loyalists and repeatedly stating that they will remain exclusive.2mrw

Lemmings want MGS4 because we ended up getting every other former PlayStation exclusive (ie Devil May Cry, Tekken, Final Fantasy) and the Xbox got Metal Gear Solid 2. Valve will NEVER develop for the PS3, and that's a guarantee. No reason to.

but but, valve already developed for the PS3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When?

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#34 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

"Mass Effect 2? pfft...we can play that on our super PC"

"WTF Valve not developing for teh ps3!? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU VALVE!"

:|

:lol:

BlindfireMcgee

:lol:

L4D

L4D 2

Portal 2

None of them are on PS3

Hurts doesn't it? :lol:

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#35 BlindfireMcgee
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y and there adverts, i think there gettingworse though:shock:

Holden1985

Doesn't matter if Mass Effect 2, Portal 2, Splinter Cell: Conviction and well 80% of our "exclusives" are on PC, still..

:lol:

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#36 killzonexbox
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[QUOTE="BlindfireMcgee"]

[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

"Mass Effect 2? pfft...we can play that on our super PC"

"WTF Valve not developing for teh ps3!? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU VALVE!"

:|

:lol:

EndorphinMaster

:lol:

L4D

L4D 2

Portal 2

None of them are on PS3

Hurts doesn't it? :lol:

you mean L4D 1.5......

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you mean L4D 1.5......

killzonexbox

W-wait, b-b-but you forgot...

:lol:

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#38 Phaze-Two
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they made that speech about "messing up on PS3" as pre-damage control for the fact that Portal wouldn't be on PS3. They were apoligizing for outsourcing The Orange Box, I said they wouldn't let any game on PS3 until they learned the hardware.

newsflash to valve: You could learn PS3s hardware by making Portal 2 for it! Then your future games could go on it, and you would make more money! It's investment, ya know?

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#39 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

[QUOTE="BlindfireMcgee"]

:lol:

killzonexbox

L4D

L4D 2

Portal 2

None of them are on PS3

Hurts doesn't it? :lol:

you mean L4D 1.5......

Sure, whatever helps you cope :lol:

L4D2 = 9.0

Hurts doesn't it?

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#40 heretrix
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Valve never said they messed up on the PS3. It's an assumption made by a writer that should know better.

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#41 EndorphinMaster
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they made that speech about "messing up on PS3" as pre-damage control for the fact that Portal wouldn't be on PS3. They were apoligizing for outsourcing The Orange Box, I said they wouldn't let any game on PS3 until they learned the hardware.

newsflash to valve: You could learn PS3s hardware by making Portal 2 for it! Then your future games could go on it, and you would make more money! It's investment, ya know?

Phaze-Two

So Valve should spend twice the money on the PS3 version only to have it sell 1/3 the copies as the 360 version? :lol:

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#42 BlindfireMcgee
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Sure, whatever helps you cope :lol:

L4D2 = 9.0

Hurts doesn't it?

EndorphinMaster

But, this isn't System Wars...

It's Company Wars right? :lol:

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#43 jasonharris48
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It's "Why is Valve still treating PS3 like trash?" The answer is because Valve is a blind Xbox fan.

patriots7672

But they favor PC more than anything else lol.

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Because it is?
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#45 AnnoyedDragon
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And yet EA dished millions into the FIFA engine and billions into licences and still keeps it exclusive to PS3/Xbox360....(PC FIFA is PS2 port) go figure....True_Gamer_

Sport is a mass audience genre; and consoles are a mass audience platform. It makes sense for consoles to become the preferred platform of such a genre. Using a PS2 port for the PC version keeps the system requirements at a minimum, enabling a very broad range of people on PC to access it. Accessibility is essential for the success of the genre, making it so pretty much anyone with a PC can run the games is a logical move.

EA is simply favouring the platform that the genre will thrive on the most, as they do with the RTS genre on PC.

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Valve is and always will be a PC developer in my eyes, I cant imagine myself playing any of their first person shooters on consoles
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[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]

you mean L4D 1.5......

BlindfireMcgee

W-wait, b-b-but you forgot...

:lol:

Lol, TC has no comebacks besides the pic above. Shows how TC has a really crappy counter arguement of why ME2, ME, L4D, L4D2 is not on the ps3..

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Lol, TC has no comebacks besides the pic above. Shows how TC has a really crappy counter arguement of why ME2, ME, L4D, L4D2 is not on the ps3..

Modern_Unit


And you in comparison have no counter responses to why 90% of Xbox 360's "exclusives" have been butt-raped by the PC. :lol:

Seriously, Lemmings must be pissed.

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#49 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="BlindfireMcgee"]

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]

you mean L4D 1.5......

Modern_Unit

W-wait, b-b-but you forgot...

:lol:

Lol, TC has no comebacks besides the pic above. Shows how TC has a really crappy counter arguement of why ME2, ME, L4D, L4D2 is not on the ps3..

It's really getting on his nervous that he can't play Portal 2 on teh ps3 :lol:

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#50 _SWAG_
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valve is the most overated developers anyway n they havent made a good game recently imho