Who are the least evil game companies?

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#1 jdc6305
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First you have Ubisoft with Assassins Creed rushing a half assed unfinished product to market. Microsoft trying to screw us over with DRM and always online. Then Activision and Bungie releasing a incomplete story just to try and extort more money out of their customers at a later date with dlc. EA and Respawn selling a half assed incomplete game expecting people that bought their game to be beta testers.

It's to the point I won't even buy a product from the above said. So who is the least evil of the gaming companies?

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#2 Cloud_imperium
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Valve .

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CD Projekt Red?

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#4  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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1. There is no such thing as evil, only objective social forces which drive economic and political motives.

2. Whether the people engaging in these horrendous acts are aware of it or not, they are ultimately influenced by the contradictions of the organization of our economy. For example, take Sony's pompous entry into last 'console generation,' telling gamers that they could work another job to afford gaming, then fast forward to MS's attempt to curtail gaming transactions under their spectacle; what is the motivating factor behind both of these? Well it's the same way a company stays alive: profit.

Basically, to win, you need more profit, but what is more difficult is the necessary but inconvenient process of producing (actual quality machines). Any shortcut to yield more profits is the path of least resistance, and Ubi, EA etc. are in a position to perform these maneuvers.

That's why when people say things like "competition helps," be wary, because it is an unfortunately dogmatic assertion.

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Microsoft

EA

Ubisoft

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#6 silversix_
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I like FROMSOFT. They release quality games and support em with quality and non overpriced dlc's.

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Bohemia Interactive. They listen and design content based on community feedback and they embrace modding as much if not more than Valve do.

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Valve. Since they are still a private company, so they are at least capable of being moral. For example, Gaben has very strong shareholding in Valve, so his morality and perspective would influence (if not outright decide) the outlook of Valve. It's not because he has a high position in Valve, or has good PR, it's because of shareholding does he have any true decision-making power.

On the other hand, public companies and studios owned by public companies, including CD Projekt RED, are often incapable of putting the consumers' best interest as the top priority. It's simply impossible. In a large public company, the decision-making power rests entirely with a large group of shareholders who merely treat the company as an investment for monetary return. If they act in anyway, whether for or against our interests, then it'd merely be the coincidence of a calculated move aimed at making more money.

For companies like CD Projekt, it's simply that the majority of shareholders believe that discarding DRM, acting revolutionary and friendly towards its fans for goodwill may generate better returns in the long term, even if there are losses in the short term compared to a stricter approach. However, they are really only capable of holding out for "long term" return because they are still relatively a small company. There is still lots of room for growth in the future, and the shareholders may be willing to go for goodwill instead of quick money, because they'd make more money that way. These same shareholders may very well invest in large giants like EA and Activision Blizzard at the same time, while favouring a more aggressive anti-consumer approach for quick money, because they'd make more money that way.

Public companies don't have morality. The morality of a few people becomes irrelevant in a sea of shareholders. As such, they can only make decisions based on the lowest denominator that everyone can agree on - greed. Public companies only have greed.

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#9 sukraj
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Ubisoft

Microsoft

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Valve, Platnium games, Nintendo

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#11 Salt_The_Fries
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Definitely not Sony despite so many people whiteknighting them.

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#12 Lulu_Lulu
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None of them are Evil....

Do your research and maybe you won't get Screwed.

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#13  Edited By ominous_titan
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Been a big fan of from software since ps2 days and still haven't felt any sting from them

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Money.

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#16  Edited By Heil68
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SONY

Valve

Blizzard

Naughty Gods

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@Heil68 said:

SONY

Do you seriously believe that or it is new way of saying "By gamers for gamers, Sony FTW. PS4 8th gen leader" etc? For Example : I love Blizzard but I still consider them greedy as hell.

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#18 Heil68
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@Cloud_imperium said:

@Heil68 said:

SONY

Do you seriously believe that or it is new way of saying "By gamers for gamers, Sony FTW. PS4 8th gen leader" etc? For Example : I love Blizzard but I still consider them greedy as hell.

My thinking is they knew a $600 console with non standard tech hurt them last gen and seen what gamers want and paid for and thus they gave us the PS4, which seems to be doing rather nicely only 1 year in.

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@sukraj said:

Ubisoft

Microsoft

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#20 jun_aka_pekto
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The only evil I see with publishers/developers is them stirring up gossipy fanboys to a frothing frenzy when what they should be doing is keeping quiet and getting the games ready.

I miss the days when developers said the game will be done when it's done. Then, total blackout.

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@Cloud_imperium said:

Valve .

@santoron said:

CD Projekt Red?

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#22  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@heguain said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Valve .

@santoron said:

CD Projekt Red?

I would have agreed with CD Projekt last year but I'm not convinced yet. We'll see how Witcher 3 does. Latest trailer looked terrible graphics wise and if it was a console version then they should admit it instead of hiding. If it's not console build then they should clarify the situation. They just went ahead and blamed youtube instead.

TBH, despite Witcher 3 being my most anticipated game, I am worried about it at the same time. Valve seems to be only company that almost never betrayed their fanbase since the very first day. They earned trust of their fans.

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#23  Edited By heguain
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@Cloud_imperium said:

@heguain said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Valve .

@santoron said:

CD Projekt Red?

I would have agreed with CD Projekt last year but I'm not convinced yet. We'll see how Witcher 3 does. Latest trailer looked terrible graphics wise and if it was a console version then they should admit it instead of hiding. If it's not console build then they should clarify the situation. They just went ahead and blamed youtube instead.

TBH, despite Witcher 3 being my most anticipated game, I am worried about it at the same time. Valve seems to be only company that almost never betrayed their fanbase since the very first day. They earned trust of their fans.

I saw the video title on youtube saying ''Xone and PS4 version

I saw the video title on youtube saying ''Xone and PS4 version''

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#24 Cloud_imperium
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@heguain said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

@heguain said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Valve .

@santoron said:

CD Projekt Red?

I would have agreed with CD Projekt last year but I'm not convinced yet. We'll see how Witcher 3 does. Latest trailer looked terrible graphics wise and if it was a console version then they should admit it instead of hiding. If it's not console build then they should clarify the situation. They just went ahead and blamed youtube instead.

TBH, despite Witcher 3 being my most anticipated game, I am worried about it at the same time. Valve seems to be only company that almost never betrayed their fanbase since the very first day. They earned trust of their fans.

I saw the video title on youtube saying ''Xone and PS4 version

I saw the video title on youtube saying ''Xone and PS4 version''

You must have watched it on "GamesHQmedia" Channel. They put "PS4 and Xbox One" at the end of every video , even if it is on PC as well. For Example : "Street Fighter V Trailer (PS4)" or "Assassin's Creed: Unity Launch Trailer (PS4 and Xbox One)" etc. It's their way of saying "Fu*k you" to PC community. Official channel only says "Elder Blood Trailer" .

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#25  Edited By deactivated-5b0367b217732
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

None of them are Evil....

Do your research and maybe you won't get Screwed.

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Valve

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#27  Edited By heretrix
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There are no evil game companies, it's just business.

Are there slimy people and practices involved? Sure, but I doubt there are people murdering baby seals and trafficking sex slaves in the industry.

Lets put this evil nonsense to bed. Okay? There are many things we can consider being evil without trivializing the term.

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Indie companies.

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Nintendo.

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I'd have to say indies because they mostly just want to get what they personally love out there and Nintendo because they have a very high devotion to quality in their software.

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#32  Edited By Ballroompirate
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CD Projekt, Naughty Gods and Nintendo (to an extent).

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#33  Edited By Heil68
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Good to see Naughty GODS get recognition they deserve.

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#34 deactivated-5920bf77daa85
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I assume we're talking about Publishers here.

Nintendo springs to mind. Inept and crazy at times, maybe, but they wanna do what they wanna do. CD Projekt as well.

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#36  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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I think the word is greedy not evil....it's not like these companies have Hitler at the helm.

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If Rockstar releases a good PC version of GTA V, I'll vote for them.

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#38 silkylove
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Plenty of indie companies who prioritize the customer and go the extra mile. Of the big guns I'd say Valve and Nintendo. Valve for how they run steam. Always good sales, and customer appreciation. I feel like I can get a good deal on a great game pretty much every day. And Nintendo for how they always release finished products. They've recently delved into DLC but the value added has been much better than your typical DLC. Their hardware is also consumer friendly. They don't charge for online play, are backwards compatible, and allow external storage.

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Take Two.

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#40 mems_1224
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lol at everyone saying valve. what the **** are you guys smoking?

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@heretrix said:

There are no evil game companies, it's just business.

Are there slimy people and practices involved? Sure, but I doubt there are people murdering baby seals and trafficking sex slaves in the industry.

Lets put this evil nonsense to bed. Okay? There are many things we can consider being evil without trivializing the term.

^

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@mems_1224: Were smoking the free DLC and the godly sales they provide.