What will you do if we get same hardware jump next get?

Won't happen. We got weak cpu's and not amazing gpu's because of the transition to APU's and both sony and MS not willing to loss lead with hardware anymore. You'll see a full generational leap (over jaguar) with both the cpu's and gpu's (over 7850) next gen.

Play games.

Possibly not buy a console for the first time but i don't think that it'll be this weak (especially on the MS side).

We won't.

I've all ready quit due to the hardware being on the low end. I don't think much will get me interested in purchasing another, due to the online being held behind a paywall.

The jump will probably be the same.
I thought the whole point of consoles was that you got an inferior experience to PC but it was cheaper (even though many PCs today seem to output console levels of performance cheaper anyway). So there is no reason to make a super powerful console because then nobody would buy it. The audience of people who want the best graphics/performance are already satisfied by the PC market.
Remember the PS3? They made a console that was supposedly more powerful than any PC you could get at the time, but the console was nearly $1000 on launch. It was a giant flop and even the 360 outsold the shit out of it, despite the fact that the PS3 had superior hardware.
If a console wants to be powerful like a PC (or at least a fair bit more powerful than the last gen) it needs to cost more, and console players won't pay big money for that, as evidenced by the fact the PC exists, as well as the PS3 flop at its launch.

To be honest I'm not interested in the twins anymore. I'll probably stick with Nintendo and PC until the end. PC gives me everything I want from 3rd party and Nintendo for first party stuff. Its just tough to buy a console with these specs and their illusion of power.

What is wrong with the text on this poll?

@onesiphorus: One of the coders over at their site seems to weekly be going through the text options and royally fucking them up 1 by one. I leave for a week or two come back and a new option like IMG is 100% broken and links are all fucked now this week they've fucked text after polls.

I'M GONNA BUY A NEW CONSOLE JUST TO SMASH IT THEN PLEDGE MY LIFE TO PC MUSTARD RACE!!!!

Not really, but I just wanted to give True_Gamer a hardon.

The PS3 was not a grand, it was $599 at release.

No one wants to sell consoles for a big loss anymore. Nintendo showed that it's possible to sell launch systems for a profit and still be successful with the Wii, and now everyone's adopted the same model.

We also know that $400 is a psychological barrier for most people to pick up a console. So in terms of jumps, you're looking at basically a repeat of what Sony did with the PS4 in the year 2013 - that's really the best case scenario.

If you want a big jump next gen, better hope for a long generation so that mid-level hardware can be 4K standard. 2020 would be a good release date for that.

I want a PS Cinco

I just get whatever has the games I want to play, and graphics have come so far that by the time the next consoles come out, they'll be easily powerful enough. Hopefully VR is quite successful and works well with some games. I'll probably give Oculus Rift a try after the consumer version comes out. It seems there's exciting times ahead, whether it's on PC or consoles.

It is the manufacturing costs....

And if the next gen consoles are just a $1000 from today that will be pathetic for 2020 and not that bad for 2017....

I'm with you right there on this one. This gen, will probably be my last with MS and Sony despite I'm cool with my PS4/Xbox One but my age is showing, [I'll be 30 years old this month] and the fact that I can only game so much, I won't bother another new Sony/MS console from here on out. As for Nintendo console, I think I'll just stick to there handhelds and I get more value on there handhelds now then there consoles. Nintendo handhelds/PC is what I'm gonna be doing next-gen.

I can still the the full text on Mobile but on the computer, it's cut in half.

Maybe. Just maybe.

I have a gaming PC for high-end graphics. Consoles are for the exclusives.

First what is up with the OP? I cant read the beginnings of your questions.

Second, I think people need to get used to this type of console market. Company's are not going to make cutting edge consoles and sell them at a loss anymore. The industry and costs have risen to high at this point for companies to do it and please stock holders. So new gens will be an increase over last gen and that is enough for the majority of consumers, but for people who frequent forums, and know about PC gaming and its levels it will be a sore point. But they aren't the ones that have to pitch a console to a board of directors and explain why its good to cost $1000 to make but sell it at $400.

Everybody got choices. I chose to play games as long as I can.

Get the new consoles, obviously. The jump this generation was about the same we always have been in the past (12+ times the power).

Do you guys honestly dont understand why we wont see anything as obvious as the transition from 2D sprites to 3D models anymore?

The actual leap in power from gen 7 to gen 8 was actually pretty big. It just didn't seem like it because gen 8 consoles weren't even up to date let alone more powerful than a high end PC at launch and we're now a year and half with two further graphics card and CPU revisions pushing the older hardware even further back.

I get the impression that you have not been playing games maxed at 1440p and 60+ frames per second on a high end PC, in recent history (screenshots and compressed videos don't count). If you had, you wouldn't be saying there is no obvious difference.

So are you saying that something like GTA 5 on PC compared to PS4 is a bigger difference graphically than SNES to PS1? PS1 to PS2? Or even PS3 to PS4?

@GarGx1:

Im not discussing PC superiority. I'm discussing how current gen consoles compare to last gen ones. For console gamers only, PS4 and X1 games look one generation ahead anything they used to play last gen.

if they have great exclusives that interest me then i will get them.

the hardware is meaningless really.the jump is pretty irrelevant.

i currently have a wiiu to go with my PC. i certainly didnt buy the wiiu because i think it has lots of "teh hidden power". as a console its probably the worst console nintendo have designed since the N64. its slow, its badly thought out, its main feature is pointless for games and so on.

but it has great exclusive games and i like to play great games.

when the PS4 and X1 get enough exclsuives that interest me then i will also pick those up.

@undefined: I'll base my purchase decision on the software available, the price, and the length between generations. I figure I'll do embassy I've always done... enjoy the games.

I remember the launch of Xbox360. $1000 PCs trembled in 2005...

Judging by TFLOP performance only the x5 jump will mean that a SLI 980GTX setup will run PS5 games...thats a $1000 PC from 2014...playing console games of 2020....

Probably buy them anyways because at that point, the expectation that PC gamers will like a game inferior to what they actually want will have killed the platform.

Good God is @True_Gamer_ a lousy poster...

I think you'll be just fine with whatever Nintendo handheld they make next. If it has scalable graphics like everyone is claiming, you won't miss out on anything that the console can't do. Plus probably more handheld exclusives and remasters. I would consider the same route if I wasn't such a idiot and loved their consoles.

I shall buy the next batch of consoles for the 9th generation. Whether or not there is a massive jump in hardware specs. But until the start of the 9th Generation we just don't know.

Sorry it seems that this was the case in other countries outside Australia. In Australia it was priced at $900-1000 depending on the hard drive space you got for it.

If the games are there, I'll still buy.

They'll all be muti manufactured Universal Stream Cable boxes in 2020-2022 where you pay monthly / yearly fees per Publisher, hopefully, a' la carte so ya know, just sayin. :P

It is the game design that is more disappointing than the hardware, imo.

I'll buy Xbox and PlayStation 100%.

It is possible, no doubt. Personally I see the industry shrinking over time. These boxes may exist but where there's a proven market there's usually someone in it. Sounds odd to some but I think Nintendo will be the only of the three still putting out dedicated game hardware.

The last part, yup, I can see "N" doing their own thing, not sure how successful they'd be in an environment as I laid out there. Much will depend upon the widespread, economical feasibility of super fast internet connections available but I'm convinced the industry badly wants to go this route and may make it happen by 2022 or so. .

People look at numbers of consoles sold and think it is the be all end all of business. That isn't exactly how it works. For example, the most popular audio amplifiers are the all-in-one 7.1 surround solution yet there is a niche(r) market within this field that still wants the high end gear. As long as people buy the product it will continue to be produced. It is why I don't understand how some are so unknowing of what MS and Sony are striving for in terms of a subscription based service. Even 3rd party developers are doing it in terms of release schedule, dlc, and now even server shut downs, etc.

@Heirren:

Yeah man, I think we're not light years apart from one another train of thought. Should be interesting to see how it all shakes out in the next 10 years. And for the record, I'm not saying what I said because I'm hoping it goes that route but rather just thinking out loud how it might go.

@davillain-: what does your age have to do with anything? 30 is not old (despite what people under 25 may say). I am 36 and will be gaming till the day I die. They will have to pry the controller away from my cold stiff hands lol. I also have 2 kids and gaming has been a great thing, for bonding.

Please don't let preconceived age stereotypes keep you from something you love.

@True_Gamer_: no they did not. PC has always been stronger than consoles. Your 360 had no match for my 2006 pc playing cod2 at twice the resolution... stop spreading that false myth.

I don't really think there will be another generation of consoles. Hardware in our own homes will become obsolete probably

What's wrong with the power of consoles? Have you seen Titanfall?

@Midnightshade29: I guess I should have explain it more. I'm just not hype for a game that I used to be. That said, I'll just stick to Handheld/PC whenever Sony/MS release there next consoles and I have a 7 year old daughter who also loves to game on her Wii U. Of course, if Sony/MS show something good, I'll think about buying there new consoles.

So the 8GB GDDR5 hype is officially dead then?

buy it. exclusives do count for something

I'll remain a PC gamer who dabbles in consoles, both have their advantages as we all know.

One thing I'm hopeful to see is how much of a boost in performance we'll get with DX12, and the new OpenGL goodness, for both PC and consoles. We may see a lot better increase in performance for the next round of consoles.

lol TC is actually a lemming

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/new-xbox-in-november-2017-scenario-what-will-sony--32026514/#49

So it would be more appropriate to say, "So the 20 % GPU boost, Unlimited Cloud for gfx, Direct X hype" is officially dean then.

Since it's the disappointment of an xbox fanboy who wants this generation to be over and have a new system to come out and challenge the PS4 because he have lost faith in xbox one your 8GB GDDR5 comment is completely off the mark. Perhaps you don't know what hype is since 8GB of GDDR5 is reality which is the opposite of hype and all the things xbox fans have been hoping would put it on even grounds with PS4 was/is 'hype".