What games have a perfect harmony of gameplay and story telling?

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#1 dustinbarnes
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I'm just wondering what games captured your heart, mind, and soul when you played it and has a perfect harmony of gameplay and story telling?

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#2 felipebo
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Not one. Gaming as a whole doesn't seem to understand you can tell a story without a cutscene.

EDIT: Actually, I'd have to concede that Portal accomplished this quite well, but one game doesn't prove much.

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#3 Chris_Williams
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mgs 3, final fantasy 10, devil may cry 3, uncharted, persona 3.. meh alot of games for me actually

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SUPER MEAT BOY


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#5 dercoo
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Nothing perfect, but Uncharted 2 was pretty darn close.

It brought you right into the cinematic action.

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Not one. Gaming as a whole doesn't seem to understand you can tell a story without a cutscene.

felipebo

Half-Life changed that.

Recently, I'd say Uncharted 2. Had cutscenes, but the gameplay and the moment-to-moment story were seamless.

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#7 Zanoh
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A balance of the two hmm?

Ocarina of Time

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#8 Not-A-Stalker
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Heavy Rain, haters gonna hate
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A lot of RPGs.
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Not one. Gaming as a whole doesn't seem to understand you can tell a story without a cutscene.

felipebo

Sometimes it serves stories better to use cutscenes.

I'd say Uncharted or Half Life, maybe Mass Effect(I haven't played it yet but from what I've seen)

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#11 alanthreonus
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Not one. Gaming as a whole doesn't seem to understand you can tell a story without a cutscene.

felipebo

Not true. Although there are many problems with the plot of Heavy Rain, that game proved that gameplay and story can be interwoven seamlessly. Other examples I can think of are Metroid Prime 1, Portal, and Braid.

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#12 Kholdstare14
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Final Fantasy 10

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Obviously MGS4, everybody knows it.

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Deus Ex comes to mind.
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Half-Life 2. Mhmm.
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#16 CaptainAhab13
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I'm just wondering what games captured your heart, mind, and soul when you played it and has a perfect harmony of gameplay and story telling?

dustinbarnes
That's a tough question. Metal Gear Solid 4 or Neverwinter Nights, maybe.
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a lot of games for me
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Cold Winter

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#19 travisstaggs
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None this gen for me yet.

As for some older games I would have to say Castlevania Symphony of the Night and Final Fantasy X.

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a lot of games for mecampzor

Your sig made me think of Left 4 Dead. That's a perfect harmony of gameplay and story because the moment you start playing you think "Oh, it's the zombie apocalypse and we're survivors." and that's pretty much the entire story. :P

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[QUOTE="campzor"]a lot of games for meCherokee_Jack

Your sig made me think of Left 4 Dead. That's a perfect harmony of gameplay and story because the moment you start playing you think "Oh, it's the zombie apocalypse and we're survivors." and that's pretty much the entire story. :P

And with this, you reminded me of SotC... "wanna save your girl?? kill these mofos"

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#22 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]a lot of games for meGreenGoblin2099

Your sig made me think of Left 4 Dead. That's a perfect harmony of gameplay and story because the moment you start playing you think "Oh, it's the zombie apocalypse and we're survivors." and that's pretty much the entire story. :P

And with this, you reminded me of SotC... "wanna save your girl?? kill these mofos"

lol, yeah. But I was just sitting there saying "...what?" through the entire ending, so maybe they didn't do it quite perfectly.
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#23 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Your sig made me think of Left 4 Dead. That's a perfect harmony of gameplay and story because the moment you start playing you think "Oh, it's the zombie apocalypse and we're survivors." and that's pretty much the entire story. :P

Cherokee_Jack

And with this, you reminded me of SotC... "wanna save your girl?? kill these mofos"

lol, yeah. But I was just sitting there saying "...what?" through the entire ending, so maybe they didn't do it quite perfectly.

You fool!! What's not to get there?? He paid a price for his "sins".

DISCLAIMER: Mods, I don't think Cherokee is a fool, I was just saying :P

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Homeworld. Play it to find out. It may have come out 12 years ago, but it still beats most RTSs today in terms of gameplay.

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#25 Bigboi500
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Nothing really. I've played a hell of a lot of games too, but nothing in story telling in games has been what I would call superb.

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

And with this, you reminded me of SotC... "wanna save your girl?? kill these mofos"

GreenGoblin2099

lol, yeah. But I was just sitting there saying "...what?" through the entire ending, so maybe they didn't do it quite perfectly.

You fool!! What's not to get there?? He paid a price for his "sins".

DISCLAIMER: Mods, I don't think Cherokee is a fool, I was just saying :P

[spoiler] But who was that dude in the mask? Did Wander really turn into a colossus/monster? Was the baby him? Was it Ico? How did Agro get to the garden when it was on top of the fricking tower? How did the girl get up there, for that matter? Just WTF. [/spoiler]

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Heavy Rain, haters gonna hateNot-A-Stalker
Not even close btw interactive movies for been around since the 90's (it's the least popular of the Adventure genre). There so many games that do a better job in regards to story telling compared to Heavy rain (not to mention far better writing)

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#28 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]Heavy Rain, haters gonna hatejasonharris48

Not even close btw interactive movies for been around since the 90's (it's the least popular of the Adventure genre). There so many games that do a better job in regards to story telling compared to Heavy rain (not to mention far better writing)

To be fair, the OP asks for "a perfect harmony of gameplay and story", not for good gameplay or story.
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] lol, yeah. But I was just sitting there saying "...what?" through the entire ending, so maybe they didn't do it quite perfectly.Cherokee_Jack

You fool!! What's not to get there?? He paid a price for his "sins".

DISCLAIMER: Mods, I don't think Cherokee is a fool, I was just saying :P

The director never really states what happens, but he did mention that part sets up the misfortunes of Wanders bloodline. (within the Ico universe) I'm sorry I had to erase your post, glitchspot is at it again.

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Metroid Prime, Portal, Mirror's Edge... that's about it, actually.

EDIT: HOLY CRAP HOW COULD I FORGET MAJORA'S MASK AND SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS!?!?!?!?!?!?

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#31 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]Heavy Rain, haters gonna hateCherokee_Jack

Not even close btw interactive movies for been around since the 90's (it's the least popular of the Adventure genre). There so many games that do a better job in regards to story telling compared to Heavy rain (not to mention far better writing)

To be fair, the OP asks for "a perfect harmony of gameplay and story", not for good gameplay or story.

Which Heavy Rain didn't process.

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#32 Master_ShakeXXX
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MGS4 is the only true answer to this question. In terms of successfully intertwining excellent gameplay with mind-blowing cinematics and story telling, it's unmatched to this very day. Nothing comes close.

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#33 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] lol, yeah. But I was just sitting there saying "...what?" through the entire ending, so maybe they didn't do it quite perfectly.Cherokee_Jack

You fool!! What's not to get there?? He paid a price for his "sins".

DISCLAIMER: Mods, I don't think Cherokee is a fool, I was just saying :P

SPOILERRIFIC QUESTIONS

[spoiler] that dude was some kind of shaman or something trying to avoid Wander to do what he did, kinda like some kind of guardian. That demon possesed Wander after the fool killed all the colossi and the shaman guy sealed him away inside Wander, who then became a horny baby. Don't know if he is Ico though, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was. Because Agro kicks ass, that's why!! She got there with... WTF does it matter man?? you just messing with me!!! :cry: [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

You fool!! What's not to get there?? He paid a price for his "sins".

DISCLAIMER: Mods, I don't think Cherokee is a fool, I was just saying :P

GreenGoblin2099

SPOILERRIFIC QUESTIONS

SPOILERIFIC ANSWERS

Uh, wait. No, you got it all wrong. ALL WRONG.

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MGS4 is the only true answer to this question. In terms of successfully intertwining excellent gameplay with mind-blowing cinematics and story telling, it's unmatched to this very day. Nothing comes close.

Master_ShakeXXX
[spoiler] MGS3 is better, you know it's true [/spoiler]
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#37 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

MGS4 is the only true answer to this question. In terms of successfully intertwining excellent gameplay with mind-blowing cinematics and story telling, it's unmatched to this very day. Nothing comes close.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

SPOILER

Pfft, Pokemon beats them both. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] SPOILERRIFIC QUESTIONS

charizard1605

SPOILERIFIC ANSWERS

Uh, wait. No, you got it all wrong. ALL WRONG.

I always make stuff up, so I highly doubt it!!

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i feel that games with great story and great gameplay are mgs 4 and assasinss creed 2 and brotherhood (desmounds story for brotherhood) and probaly mass effect

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

SPOILERIFIC ANSWERS

GreenGoblin2099

Uh, wait. No, you got it all wrong. ALL WRONG.

I always make stuff up, so I highly doubt it!!

You can't make things up, that's MY JOB! :evil:

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

MGS4 is the only true answer to this question. In terms of successfully intertwining excellent gameplay with mind-blowing cinematics and story telling, it's unmatched to this very day. Nothing comes close.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

[spoiler] MGS3 is better, you know it's true [/spoiler]

Naaaaah. MGS4 >>>>> MGS3, which is saying a lot because MGS3 is still amazing. GOTY 2004 that one was.

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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Uh, wait. No, you got it all wrong. ALL WRONG.

charizard1605

I always make stuff up, so I highly doubt it!!

You can't make things up, that's MY JOB! :evil:

I thought your job was derailing topics...

What's my job then?? :|

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

I always make stuff up, so I highly doubt it!!

GreenGoblin2099

You can't make things up, that's MY JOB! :evil:

I thought your job was derailing topics...

What's my job then?? :|

My job is essentially messing System Wars up. That includes spamming, derailing topics and making things up. Your job is to play along.

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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

MGS4 is the only true answer to this question. In terms of successfully intertwining excellent gameplay with mind-blowing cinematics and story telling, it's unmatched to this very day. Nothing comes close.

Master_ShakeXXX

Naaaaah. MGS4 >>>>> MGS3, which is saying a lot because MGS3 is still amazing. GOTY 2004 that one was.

You know you're my buddy Shake, but MGS3>>>>>MGS4 (just to upset you Peace Walker>>MGS4 :twisted: )

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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] You can't make things up, that's MY JOB! :evil:

charizard1605

I thought your job was derailing topics...

What's my job then?? :|

My job is essentially messing System Wars up. That includes spamming, derailing topics and making things up. Your job is to play along.

Ok, I'll play along but I want my cookies upfront, you hear?

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Games made by Looking Glass Studios and Irrational Games also come to mind, not to mention Deus Ex.
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] SPOILERRIFIC QUESTIONS

charizard1605

SPOILERIFIC ANSWERS

Uh, wait. No, you got it all wrong. ALL WRONG.

Then kindly grant us your wisdom on this matter.

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"] jasonharris48

Naaaaah. MGS4 >>>>> MGS3, which is saying a lot because MGS3 is still amazing. GOTY 2004 that one was.

You know you're my buddy Shake, but MGS3>>>>>MGS4 (just to upset you Peace Walker>>MGS4 :twisted: )

Ah it seems we are destined to always disagree about that (MGS4 is soooo much better :P ). But in the end it is our love for MGS as a series that will always keep us remaining friends :D

Can't argue the Peace Walker comment as I haven't played it unfortunately, but I refuse to believe that a mere handheld title could ever come near MGS4!

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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Naaaaah. MGS4 >>>>> MGS3, which is saying a lot because MGS3 is still amazing. GOTY 2004 that one was.

Master_ShakeXXX

You know you're my buddy Shake, but MGS3>>>>>MGS4 (just to upset you Peace Walker>>MGS4 :twisted: )

Ah it seems we are destined to always disagree about that (MGS4 is soooo much better :P ). But in the end it is our love for MGS as a series that will always keep us remaining friends :D

Can't argue the Peace Walker comment as I haven't played it unfortunately, but I refuse to believe that a mere handheld title could ever come near MGS4!

PW is the ****, man... if you say you love MGS but haven't played PW, then you're doing it wrong.

So wrong that you don't even deserve to play Vanquish anymore.

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Naaaaah. MGS4 >>>>> MGS3, which is saying a lot because MGS3 is still amazing. GOTY 2004 that one was.

Master_ShakeXXX

Nope,that would be World of Warcraft. ;)