What can Sony do to become top dog again?

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#1 sagax03
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Know i am a nintendo fanboy the most but i love all my next-gen systems except maby the 360..but aside the point.... Sony was top dog until the wii came out infact the PS2 AND PS1 easily are one of the best systems ever made, PS3 has been destroyed because of the WIIS more libary of games and 360s better live (even though i do prefer PS3 MORE than 360) the PS3 has lost the console war against nitedno without a doubth,what sony needs to do?i think they need to grab the 3rd part support first.Second create a new system thats so unique every hardcore gamer and even some casual gamers woud go to it.and 3rd become like SEGA spread insults thats why SEGA beat nintendo in the SNES AND NES saga,with help from sonic but yo u now.Oh yeah then finally create a mascot.One thatll wow the crowds.Okay im done know what do you guys think?

P.S I didnt know where to put this in the leagacy platforms or here so i just decided here if i have put it in the wrong spot i will gladly move it to the legacy platforms.

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#2 Lionheart08
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Find a good balance between the "core" market and casual market while having a customer friendly price and releasing games at a good rate...like the PS2. :P

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#4 Squall18
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Honestly, I doubt they will reign like they did thhe PS2, BUT, they are making a sizeable competition.

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#5 Giancar
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price, they have the games (some jrpgs wouldn't hurt) but at this point it comes to price...
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#6 GreenGoblin2099
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It all comes down to a better pricing IMO.

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#7 campzor
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price... then KABOOM!
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Travel back in time and stop the idea of including Blue-Ray on its console. Also use cartridges for the PSP. Ah, and cancel ALL the PR declarations.
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Just keep pumping out good games and for the the love of sohee.... ADVERTISE! :P

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Travel back in time and stop the idea of including Blue-Ray on its console. Also use cartridges for the PSP. Ah, and cancel ALL the PR declarations.IronBass

Blue Ray will be very profitable for them in the long runjust like CD was profitable with PSX and DVD was very profitable with PS2

what they just need is a price cut they got the games already.

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#11 Fumpa
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Release the PS4 right now, along with a decent library of games and previews of upcoming ones.
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#12 VideoGameGuy
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Nintendo has forever changed the market and what a videogame company can hope to accomplish. Either flat=out copy Nintendo or fight over the so-called "Hardcore"
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#13 _SWAG_
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i think in sonys mind theyre still the top dog, so maybe if they stop thinking that they can really get the ball rolling again

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#14 sagax03
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yeah sony DEFINITLY NEEDS A BETTER PR. I just read the article where sony badmouthed the DSI but it wasnt the way i was thinking.He made sony sound so stupid "Having great blockbuster hits" WTF?! WHAT ABOUT THE GAMES?! sigh oh man sony sony sony, i use to love you thats why i created this god darn topic ( Censored) but seriously at LEAST try...sigh...

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Travel back in time and stop the idea of including Blue-Ray on its console. Also use cartridges for the PSP. Ah, and cancel ALL the PR declarations.dayshot

Blue Ray will be very profitable for them in the long runjust like CD was profitable with PSX and DVD was very profitable with PS2

what they just need is a price cut they got the games already.

And Blue-Ray is the reason why they can not make price cuts.
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Stop OVERHYPING the system's capabilities and games, Stop saying your games cant be done on another system, stop relying on "brand loyalty" to sell the system and ADVERTISE!! Hire some new PR guys that actually PROMOTE the system instead of tearing down others. (i know MS does it too, but we all know what im talkin about here) Start selling the PS3 as a GAMING system, and not this all purpose entertainment center with "value" that casuals care nothing about. They need to release countless surveys so that they actually know what gamers want(MS does this all the time, thats why i think they make great decisions for the most part) instead of releasing text chat on PSN when we all want voice chat. Cancel HOME and use that money to make PSN on par or better than LIVE.

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#17 GodofBigMacs
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Advertise... a LOT...
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#18 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Erase the existence of their competition from the face of the Earth. How else?
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#19 Bigboi500
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Start fresh next gen.

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#20 sagax03
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well sony was right about one thing.MGS4 really cant be played on any other system.......but i agree with you man in my opininon sony is making alot of money and i like HOME i just think they need to up there live.
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#21 cool_beans1
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It probably comes down to advertising IMO, plus not to have bad publicity (from what I've seen).
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#22 ActicEdge
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Wait until next gen since its over this gen.

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more RPG.. like ps2 and psx
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#24 TechGuru89
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They are fine where their at now. You guys have to look at the bigger picture.
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#25 Swift_Boss_A
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Advertise. thats all. PS3 has arguebly the best line up of games this year, the system itself is amazing so if Sony can advertise the PS3 really well and also the games then they may have shot. Perosnally I dont care if Sony becomes top dog or not, they have the best games in my opinion and are working much harder then both Ninty and MS with their 1st/2nd party offerings. If you ask me they are still top dog, not sales wise but quality wise definitely.
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Know i am a nintendo fanboy the most but i love all my next-gen systems except maby the 360..but aside the point.... Sony was top dog until the wii came out infact the PS2 AND PS1 easily are one of the best systems ever made, PS3 has been destroyed because of the WIIS more libary of games and 360s better live (even though i do prefer PS3 MORE than 360) the PS3 has lost the console war against nitedno without a doubth,what sony needs to do?i think they need to grab the 3rd part support first.Second create a new system thats so unique every hardcore gamer and even some casual gamers woud go to it.and 3rd become like SEGA spread insults thats why SEGA beat nintendo in the SNES AND NES saga,with help from sonic but yo u now.Oh yeah then finally create a mascot.One thatll wow the crowds.Okay im done know what do you guys think?

P.S I didnt know where to put this in the leagacy platforms or here so i just decided here if i have put it in the wrong spot i will gladly move it to the legacy platforms.

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price.

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#27 Bigboi500
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more RPG.. like ps2 and psx___gamemaster__
Here here. That's what I've been saying all along. It's taken a while but it seems that they finally got the message and slowly but surely the PS3 is starting to get some.

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[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]more RPG.. like ps2 and psxBigboi500

Here here. That's what I've been saying all along. It's taken a while but it seems that they finally got the message and slowly but surely the PS3 is starting to get some.

Even RPGs won't save them at this point. We're too late into the gen for anything to really help propel them to top dog.

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]more RPG.. like ps2 and psxActicEdge

Here here. That's what I've been saying all along. It's taken a while but it seems that they finally got the message and slowly but surely the PS3 is starting to get some.

Even RPGs won't save them at this point. We're too late into the gen for anything to really help propel them to top dog.

Just a question.

How long do you think this gen will be and how long do you want it to be?

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[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]more RPG.. like ps2 and psxBigboi500

Here here. That's what I've been saying all along. It's taken a while but it seems that they finally got the message and slowly but surely the PS3 is starting to get some.

they still haven't got the message I don't see those 1st party jrpgs anywhere...
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#31 jdsteffen
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take a page from Microsoft and Nintendo. Strip some of the options out of the current models to lower the price. Not everyone needs wireless adapters, memorycard readers, or hard drives.

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#32 TechGuru89
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take a page from Microsoft and Nintendo. Strip some of the options out of the current models to lower the price. Not everyone needs wireless adapters, memorycard readers, or hard drives.

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It's nice to have though. :D
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Here here. That's what I've been saying all along. It's taken a while but it seems that they finally got the message and slowly but surely the PS3 is starting to get some.

FragTycoon

Even RPGs won't save them at this point. We're too late into the gen for anything to really help propel them to top dog.

Just a question.

How long do you think this gen will be and how long do you want it to be?

Probably about 6-7 years. That is about how long I want it too more leaning to seven though for me.

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#34 FFCYAN
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Start fresh next gen.

Bigboi500

This sums it up well. Maybe the PS3 did not do well this gen because Sony wanted people to work harder and get TWO jobs to want to buy one. Can't imagine many people getting two jobs to buy a console because they want it so bad. Crazy Sony.:lol:

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#35 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]more RPG.. like ps2 and psxGiancar

Here here. That's what I've been saying all along. It's taken a while but it seems that they finally got the message and slowly but surely the PS3 is starting to get some.

they still haven't got the message I don't see those 1st party jrpgs anywhere...

You're right about that. Atleast it looks like some pretty good ones are coming like Cross Edge, WKC, FFXIIIvs, Atelier Rorona to go with games like Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles that are already out. That's enough to sell me on a PS3 pretty soon.

Hopefully even more follow along with some of those 1st party JRPGs you spoke of. I think both the Wii and PS3 will really start pumping out good Japanese games soon.

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Travel back in time and stop the idea of including Blue-Ray on its console. Also use cartridges for the PSP. Ah, and cancel ALL the PR declarations.IronBass

Looking back DVD was what killed their competition - the Dreamcast. So it wasn't exactly a stupid decision, and the PS3 IS better off with the bluray. It's just more expensive.

I can't decide whether or not it's better or not without it.

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What can Sony do to become top dog again?

sagax03

Price Drop, then 2nd place is as good as theirs.

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#38 -Melix-
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Travel back in time and stop the idea of including Blue-Ray on its console. Also use cartridges for the PSP. Ah, and cancel ALL the PR declarations.IronBass

Remember that because of the ps3 having blue ray, it allowed them to win the format war...They might not make profit on the ps3, but they sure are making profit from blue ray ;)

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Travel back in time and stop the idea of including Blue-Ray on its console. Also use cartridges for the PSP. Ah, and cancel ALL the PR declarations.

cartridges for PSP? liek max 500mb per cartridge?
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Travel back in time and stop the idea of including Blue-Ray on its console. Also use cartridges for the PSP. Ah, and cancel ALL the PR declarations.curp11
cartridges for PSP? liek max 500mb per cartridge?

Anything that solves the never-ending load screens.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Travel back in time and stop the idea of including Blue-Ray on its console. Also use cartridges for the PSP. Ah, and cancel ALL the PR declarations.-Melix-

Remember that because of the ps3 having blue ray, it allowed them to win the format war...They might not make profit on the ps3, but they sure are making profit from blue ray ;)

But we are talking about gaming . Righ now, the only gaming related results Blue-Ray have shown are losless sound and a more expensive console. Two not very useful results, if you ask me.
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Uh... selling their collective souls to the Devil? Other than that, I don't know, as I'm not a businessman.

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#43 -GeordiLaForge-
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If you look at the game attachment rate for the PS3, you'll see the true reason the PS3 was designed as it was. It's main purpose was helping to win the BluRay / HD-DVD war... Next time around, I'm hoping that they'll invest more money into the gaming aspect of their console, instead of throwing in a low tech GPU to save money...
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[QUOTE="curp11"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Travel back in time and stop the idea of including Blue-Ray on its console. Also use cartridges for the PSP. Ah, and cancel ALL the PR declarations.IronBass
cartridges for PSP? liek max 500mb per cartridge?

Anything that solves the never-ending load screens.

Improving the umd drive reading speed is a more viable solution me thinks
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Improving the umd drive reading speed is a more viable solution me thinkscurp11
If that's possible is fine by me. I was just looking at the DS.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="curp11"] cartridges for PSP? liek max 500mb per cartridge?curp11
Anything that solves the never-ending load screens.

Improving the umd drive reading speed is a more viable solution me thinks

I'[m sure that would mean less battey life.

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[QUOTE="curp11"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Anything that solves the never-ending load screens.FFCYAN

Improving the umd drive reading speed is a more viable solution me thinks

I'[m sure that would mean less battey life.

There's a compromise between cartridge(much smaller media space) or improving the drive's speed( less battery life)
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umm, what is PR?:oops: (i feel pretty stupid)

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#49 FFCYAN
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[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="curp11"] Improving the umd drive reading speed is a more viable solution me thinkscurp11

I'[m sure that would mean less battey life.

There's a compromise between cartridge(much smaller media space) or improving the drive's speed( less battery life)

I think this sums up my feelings that Sony did not design the PSP to be a portable machine as much as it should have. There are payoffs, but the PSP as a whole seems just like the PS3; load them upwith the best technology and hope the comsumers want that the most. We all know how that turned out.:P

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umm, what is PR?:oops: (i feel pretty stupid)

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Public relations.