Well, SEGA is dead to me.

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#1 SonicNextGen2
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http://www.tssznews.com/2012/11/27/sega-launches-shining-force-dmca-campaign-on-youtube/ Another franchise bites the dust. What do they develop now in the West anyways? Sonic, Platinum Games, Aliens, and their 77th rehashed port! God, what happened SEGA?
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#2 battlefieldfan4
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Thanks to Nintendo, Microsoft and all their 8-year-old fanboys, other companies are finding it to be more profitable to milk series instead of making new ones.
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#3 DarkLink77
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Um... what? Where does it say the game won't be released in the West?

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#4 AmnesiaHaze
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binary domain was so cool so it isnt for me

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#5 SonicNextGen2
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Um... what? Where does it say the game won't be released in the West?

DarkLink77
SEGA hasn't released a new Shining game in the West in almost 6 years, and they've made over 7 games in that time, it isn't coming over soon.
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#6 Lief_Ericson
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Only thing I care about that Sega is involved with is Total War and that is still going strong :)


Skies of Arcadia was a 2nd but that has long since been gone, also Phantasy Star and PSO 2 is coming out too.

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#7 the9thinning
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God, what happened SEGA?SonicNextGen2
This gen happened
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#8 psymon100
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DMCA'ing gameplay footage?

Well technically they have the legal recourse to do so. However normally video game intellectual property owners see reviews/let's plays as 'fair use' of their content. Particularly if the content is not monetised.

You might lol,Mega64 - Sonic Sucks

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Thanks to Nintendo, Microsoft and all their 8-year-old fanboys, other companies are finding it to be more profitable to milk series instead of making new ones.battlefieldfan4
To an 8 year old, it's likely all new. This is the most idiotic thing I've read all week. What's your real account?
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Thanks to Nintendo, Microsoft and all their 8-year-old fanboys, other companies are finding it to be more profitable to milk series instead of making new ones.battlefieldfan4
It's called the end of the gen, son. This always happens.
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#11 AznbkdX
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Well for me if Sega keeps on producing and devving Total War and the better Sonic games that have come out just recently, then they are fine.

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#12 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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It was dead to me the moment it rejected funding Bayo2 for the 360/PS3 giving it to Nintendo to turn it WiiU exclusive

F*CK YOU SEGA

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#13 Kinthalis
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They only thing they do that I care about is the Total War series. It's one of the few things making them money, and they are treating the series well, so I got no beef with them.

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#14 mjf249
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I really can't remember the last great Sega game I've played... Perhaps Panzer Dragoon Orta on Xbox. I've stayed clear away from them, because their franchises really suck now a days. Such a hue shame, because Sega use to be one of my favorite companies!
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#15 Wiimotefan
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I quit caring about Sega some time in the mid-late 90's.

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Virtua Fighter 5 is the best fighter this gen.
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It was dead to me the moment it rejected funding Bayo2 for the 360/PS3 giving it to Nintendo to turn it WiiU exclusive

F*CK YOU SEGA

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maybe the next gen sony and ms will get a port , its not segas fault that only nintendo is next gen and the ohers use ancient hardware
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#18 Zeviander
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It was dead to me the moment it rejected funding Bayo2 for the 360/PS3 giving it to Nintendo to turn it WiiU exclusive F*CK YOU SEGAVatusus
Without Nintendo there wouldn't have been a Bayonetta 2. Sega didn't have the money to invest in a niche franchise. Welcome to the world of business. Don't like it? Tough sh!t.
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#19 Newhopes
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Last Shining force game released in the EU was 10 years ago....

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#20 burgeg
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I still love Sega. They may not be what they once were, but they're still among my top companies in gaming right now. People give them way too much unfair stick.

Just gonna lay a cool fact here. If somehow Sega had the funds to launch a new console, their console would have one of if not the best first party lineup. Basically what I'm saying is that this gen Sega have developed and published more quality titles than the big three console companies.

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#21 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

It was dead to me the moment it rejected funding Bayo2 for the 360/PS3 giving it to Nintendo to turn it WiiU exclusive

F*CK YOU SEGA

AmnesiaHaze
maybe the next gen sony and ms will get a port , its not segas fault that only nintendo is next gen and the ohers use ancient hardware

Yeah, that wasn't the reason Bayonetta 2 isn't on the PS3 / 360 and Nintendo's hardware is hardly crushing the competition.
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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]It was dead to me the moment it rejected funding Bayo2 for the 360/PS3 giving it to Nintendo to turn it WiiU exclusive F*CK YOU SEGAZeviander
Without Nintendo there wouldn't have been a Bayonetta 2. Sega didn't have the money to invest in a niche franchise. Welcome to the world of business. Don't like it? Tough sh!t.

Sega dont have money to invest in anything other then some Sonic sh1tty game.

So, again, F*CK YOU SEGA

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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

It was dead to me the moment it rejected funding Bayo2 for the 360/PS3 giving it to Nintendo to turn it WiiU exclusive

F*CK YOU SEGA

AmnesiaHaze

maybe the next gen sony and ms will get a port , its not segas fault that only nintendo is next gen and the ohers use ancient hardware

Come talk to me again when the WiiU produces a better looking game than th best ones on PS3/X360

until then... no

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#24 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Wow, are they really banning youtube channels for showing gameplay footage? Countless of people use youtube for this.. WTF sega. May as well start banning twitch tv channels also. Seen plenty of SEGA games being live streamed on there including Shining Force just recently.

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#25 nameless12345
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Virtua Fighter 5 Final, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Valkyre Chronicles, Total War Shogun 2, Yakuza, Mad World, Sonic Generations, Sonic Colors, Sonic Racing Transformed, Outrun Online, After Burner Climax, NiGHTS HD, Crimson Dragon (Kinect, tba), ect.

Lots of good games from them this gen...

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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]It was dead to me the moment it rejected funding Bayo2 for the 360/PS3 giving it to Nintendo to turn it WiiU exclusive F*CK YOU SEGAVatusus

Without Nintendo there wouldn't have been a Bayonetta 2. Sega didn't have the money to invest in a niche franchise. Welcome to the world of business. Don't like it? Tough sh!t.

Sega dont have money to invest in anything other then some Sonic sh1tty game.

So, again, F*CK YOU SEGA

Actually, Sega still wins either way. Because they own the franchise, they still get a cut of the profits without having to lift a finger. Platinum Games will be devleoping it, while Nintendo handles the costs and effort of promoting the game. By not investing in Bayonetta 2's development, Sega atcually comes out as a major winner in all of this. They will still get their cut, while two other companies handle all the costs involved with making the game.

I'm not sure if Sega had any hand in making this happen, but they got themselves a pretty sweet deal.

And Sega does invest in other games besides Sonic. Look at their release schedule for this generation, and you'll see other franchises like Total War, Shinobi, Virtua Fighter, and countless other IPs being made.

Sonic is at the forefront due to one simple reason. It's a major moneymaker franchise for Sega and their flagship IP. It's always been that way since the 16-bit era. Unless Sonic bombs in sales, expect them to invest money into making a Sonic game.

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#27 KBFloYd
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nintendo should totally buy sega..

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#28 AznbkdX
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nintendo should totally buy sega..

KBFloYd

There are two companies that I think they should buy if they ever someday felt like splurging.

One of them is Sega. Another notable one is Platinum Games. There is a third but I cant put my finger on the last as of now.

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#29 Ghost120x
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All I want is those shining force DS games, Valkyria chronicles 3, yakuza and I'm done with them.
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#30 Mr_BillGates
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nintendo should totally buy sega..

KBFloYd
RIP Total War.
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#31 Capitan_Kid
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nintendo should totally buy sega..

KBFloYd
That'd be kinda sad on Sega's part. Ninty's greatest rival and an old titan in gaming reduced to their whipping boy.
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#32 locopatho
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I'm a big fan of SRPGs, so it really sucks that Shining and Valkyria are both so inconsistant/tought to play. It's sometimes easier to just forget they exist rather then punish myself with pointless hope, sadly :(
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Virtua Fighter 5 Final, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Valkyre Chronicles, Total War Shogun 2, Yakuza, Mad World, Sonic Generations, Sonic Colors, Sonic Racing Transformed, Outrun Online, After Burner Climax, NiGHTS HD, Crimson Dragon (Kinect, tba), ect.

Lots of good games from them this gen...

nameless12345

the thing is that most of those games will never see another sequel ever again!

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#34 AznbkdX
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

nintendo should totally buy sega..

Capitan_Kid

That'd be kinda sad on Sega's part. Ninty's greatest rival and an old titan in gaming reduced to their whipping boy.

Eh I think they have resolved their differences enough considering iirc they got one of the main Sonic devs on their side as of now.

I think Ninty should supply them with money and let them do what they want for the most part with some restriction, like some of the other companies it owns. I bet with more financial backing they can create even better things.

Also Total War shouldn't be ruled out. It would be weird to see a Nintendo publishing logo on a PC game, but it would be kinda cool at the same time.

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#35 lolatyoulol
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sega doesnt exist anymore they merged with sammy.
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#36 Kjranu
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Sega buying up Creative Assembly from Activisison was probably their only smart move since 9/11 hit Dreamcast. Sega don't have the money nor do they have the talent to make great games from their existing franchises anymore. Sega is in a certain mire and has been since they became a third party publisher. I don't see them coming out of the mire anytime soon unless they finally release a big hit like T2 has with GTA, Red Dead or Activision with COD, etc...
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#37 Kjranu
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I am a Sega fanboy at heart and I still have a functioning Dreamcast that I bought way back in 1999. This is all deeply sad somehow. :(
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I am a Sega fanboy at heart and I still have a functioning Dreamcast that I bought way back in 1999. This is all deeply sad somehow. :(Kjranu

I think they did fairly well these past few years.

I also think nameless gave out a large list of games. The ppl ragging on them now are a group that only focused on their failed games and endeavors.

Try to look at them with no tinted shades. You might see something better or maybe worse. You can't tell until you dispel the initial hate though.

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#39 ReadingRainbow4
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over the next year you're going to see alot more of this practice from companies not just sega, let's players are going to be having a hell of a time.

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#40 psymon100
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over the next year you're going to see alot more of this practice from companies not just sega, let's players are going to be having a hell of a time.

ReadingRainbow4

Why do you think this?

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That's nice, I'm having a blast with Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed.

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over the next year you're going to see alot more of this practice from companies not just sega, let's players are going to be having a hell of a time.

ReadingRainbow4
I agreed with Playthrough channels being hit but I know Youtubers who reviews of Shining games got them copyright strikes for just using a little footage. Funny thing is those reviewes were PRAISING the games. Sega is just backwards.
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Thanks to Nintendo, Microsoft and all their 8-year-old fanboys, other companies are finding it to be more profitable to milk series instead of making new ones.battlefieldfan4
At least as far as Nintendo is concerned your statement doesn't explain Dillon's Rolling Western, Spirit Camera, Pushmo, Sakurai Samurai and so many other new games from them.
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#44 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

over the next year you're going to see alot more of this practice from companies not just sega, let's players are going to be having a hell of a time.

psymon100

Why do you think this?

It's no secret many companies consider let's plays a form of piracy. It's a huge stretch, but they would rather have you buy and play the games for yourself instead of watching others.
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#45 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

over the next year you're going to see alot more of this practice from companies not just sega, let's players are going to be having a hell of a time.

FlamesOfGrey
I agreed with Playthrough channels being hit but I know Youtubers who reviews of Shining games got them copyright strikes for just using a little footage. Funny thing is those reviewes were PRAISING the games. Sega is just backwards.

The funny thing is I just did a quick search on youtube and there's still plenty of prominent let's players with their shining force play through's.
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

over the next year you're going to see alot more of this practice from companies not just sega, let's players are going to be having a hell of a time.

ReadingRainbow4

I agreed with Playthrough channels being hit but I know Youtubers who reviews of Shining games got them copyright strikes for just using a little footage. Funny thing is those reviewes were PRAISING the games. Sega is just backwards.

The funny thing is I just did a quick search on youtube and there's still plenty of prominent let's players with their shining force play through's.

I'm sure SEGA will get to them eventually. 3 copyright strikes and your channel is gone. All Sega needs to do is file complaints on 3 of the playthrough videos and any one channel is finished.

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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

nintendo should totally buy sega..

Capitan_Kid
That'd be kinda sad on Sega's part. Ninty's greatest rival and an old titan in gaming reduced to their whipping boy.

thats in the past though and business is business.. Im sure if Nintendo buys Sega,they would want them to make some great games and not rub it in their faces lol
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#48 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

nintendo should totally buy sega..

jessejay420
That'd be kinda sad on Sega's part. Ninty's greatest rival and an old titan in gaming reduced to their whipping boy.

thats in the past though and business is business.. Im sure if Nintendo buys Sega,they would want them to make some great games and not rub it in their faces lol

I'd rather not see Nintendo purchase sega, that would be the end for any versions of anything on PC. Because as we all know, Nintendo doesn't deal with pc.
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#49 Lief_Ericson
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

nintendo should totally buy sega..

Mr_BillGates

RIP Total War.



Mario Total War: Koopa Kingdoms

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#50 lolatyoulol
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sega needs to buy themself back from sammy lol it's no wonder they completely suck now.