UH OH, Angry JOE is MAD! StarField REviEW .

There's a good chance the game gets nominated at this point for an award. There is also a pretty good chance it gets talked about to during the awards.

And smacked down Xbox peeps too ( referred to them of course )

I have just one last long winded rant on the subject of gaming the system.

I never liked RPGs growing up and avoided them, but I had a couple friends who got me into both Morrowind on OG Xbox and Fallout 2 on PC. I came to appreciate the design, ideas like leveling, understanding the stats, picking skills and upgrading gear. Generally just understanding the design of the gameplay. And over the years broadened my appreciation by branching out to gameplay styles and game genres that use similar designs. I'm glad I jumped on board when I did, because since then we've seen a broadening of hybridization with RPG elements into lots of mainstream games and perhaps I wouldn't have come to appreciate many of these new games without first overcoming that initial hurdle.

The games are fun as games themselves, but I felt a drive to understand them by ways of gaming the system. These days you can find shortcuts online that suck all the fun of discovering those exploits yourself but I steer clear, I don't want to rob myself of making such discoveries on my own.

Back in original Morrowind I discovered I could get around the leveling wall, which was tied to your major and minor skills improving, but once those are capped, that's that. You could level up other skills but not achieve the point to put points into attributes anymore... until I discovered the debuff gear. There was some item I came across, I think it might have been some shackle, it had a penalty of lowering a skill while equipped and like most stuff in this game you disregard to avoid encumbrance, overall the item seem inconsequential, then it suddenly occured to me, this debuff applies to one of my major skills... EUREKA!! I equipped it, found a master trainer, even though I had maxed the major skill out and couldn't be trained, equip the debuff gear, suddenly the game thinks there's room for improvement and allows me to train, and with the debuff gear applied I could do it again and again until oh look, opportunity to start adding more and more attribute points to ridiculous levels. I ended up with the most OP character that paled all my previous attempts at that game.

And perhaps by accident, when I first played Skyrim I did the most perfect character design with skill focuses applied to some mix of alchemy, enchantment, and blacksmithing. I essentially circled the buffs back into each other like potions to create better enchantment, enchantments to create better potions, round and round until I was tired of it and just settled on something to buff my blacksmithing, used my best resources and created some of the most ridonkulous OP armor and bow and I could take down dragons and trolls with single shot, basically what I did in Morrowind all over again.

These games scream for players to game the system, but to do that you have to understand that system. Now, these two examples are perhaps the most grotesque examples because they suck all the fun out of the game afterwards, but they were fun to unravel. But gamers at large game the system whenever and wherever they can. Perhaps people's limits are just inherent in their comprehension and observation and problem solving, but no doubt the drive is universal. I imagine if a game has a casino and offers high stakes games and players can save before throwing everything they own at a roulette table or a single hand of blackjack, they will, and if they fail, they'll just reload. Or rather than spend a skill point to upgrade pick-pocketing, if they need something from an NPC, perhaps just walk up to their back pocket sneaking, save, attempt, if failed, reload and repeat until successful. It comes in all ways shapes and forms, and people will do it.

I don't want to say Joe didn't have more fun because he didn't game the system, but he certainly exhibited positions that told me he'd be incapable of doing so because he never really understood what that system was. He'd scream about things he just couldn't wrap his head around. And it's rather shocking he never did get a grasp on a better understanding, be it with the several weeks he put into it, his engagement with others online, his two goons standing over his shoulder the last several weeks.

Overall I'd say regardless I stand with his assessment of flawed but fun. But the hour-plus of minutiae that brought him to that conclusion are largely flawed. And here is a game that can be improved. No doubt devs are listening. But to get good feedback... well, they need people to offer good feedback to be heard. Joe's feedback is largely counter-productive because it just doesn't nail the issues right or also fails to recognize causality, but unfortunately, that's the kind of dumb shit the devs will have to placate.

And I won't fault him for being wrong, people should be allowed to be wrong, he at least tried his best, but if you're going to be a critic, if you're going to critique a game, you have to do some critical thinking. Joe let his lizard brain dictate this review.

8 years for this turd. I'll say it again - I am so glad I didn't make the mistake of buying another Xbox.

the game sucks

Suck isn't the word. Just disappointing is what Starfield is. But I did enjoy what was given, but the flaws just really hurts the immersion.

Flogging a dead horse

Another Starfield thread.

Here, bro. Have some more copium:

Interesting perspective. Defiantly can wait till many patches have been applied.

Just watched the Angry Joe review. Hilarious lol. Badthesda continues to disappoint.

Get real man, you guys hyped this game up for over 2 years as the 2nd coming. It flopped HARD, now you want to use the "rent free" argument since it's getting clowned. Sit down and take the L, you guys made the bed now lie in it.

@dabear said:

@daredevils2k said:

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He felt lied too. Thinks the game looks outdated and FUGLY and controls are cumbersome, NPC are lifeless, AI is stupid. I can go on and on.

Another Starfield thread.

Here, bro. Have some more copium:

Dude, what are you even saying with your copium? This is not how you use it properly. What is wrong with you as of late?

I dont have intention of playing this game but i would casually watch AJ review just for fun. The stealth mode of this game is really a joke lol. And seem countless hour wasted on inventory management, loading times etc

Sold millions,played by millions on gamepass gave xbox record profits and got an 86 meta,the only flop here is your post 🤣😂

just like pokemon does that mean its good?

people been hyped for this game just to be like he said lied to. so far myself I know 5 people who played it only one is still playing it.

im level 29 but I can see why so many are turned off.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm gonna get my hands on some of that G-fuel. You know, cuz I'm a real gamer!

@hardwenzen said:

@dabear said:

@daredevils2k said:

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He felt lied too. Thinks the game looks outdated and FUGLY and controls are cumbersome, NPC are lifeless, AI is stupid. I can go on and on.

Another Starfield thread.

Here, bro. Have some more copium:

Dude, what are you even saying with your copium? This is not how you use it properly. What is wrong with you as of late?

He is "coping" with the fact that he cannot play Starfield and that ABK is now a division of Microsoft Game Studios. So, I am giving him some copium.

So, yes, that is the correct usage.

@dabear said:

@hardwenzen said:

@dabear said:

@daredevils2k said:

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He felt lied too. Thinks the game looks outdated and FUGLY and controls are cumbersome, NPC are lifeless, AI is stupid. I can go on and on.

Another Starfield thread.

Here, bro. Have some more copium:

Dude, what are you even saying with your copium? This is not how you use it properly. What is wrong with you as of late?

He is "coping" with the fact that he cannot play Starfield and that ABK is now a division of Microsoft Game Studios. So, I am giving him some copium.

So, yes, that is the correct usage.

Posting a review from someone who does great reviews for over a decade is not coping, but exposing how weak and outdated Starfield is.

I can't be bothered to watch a 1 hour review. I had rather just play Starfield. Sorry Joe.

You don't have to watch it. You can listen it while doing other stuff, such as collecting rocks in Starfield😎

@hardwenzen said:

@dabear said:

@hardwenzen said:

@dabear said:

Another Starfield thread.

Here, bro. Have some more copium:

Dude, what are you even saying with your copium? This is not how you use it properly. What is wrong with you as of late?

He is "coping" with the fact that he cannot play Starfield and that ABK is now a division of Microsoft Game Studios. So, I am giving him some copium.

So, yes, that is the correct usage.

Posting a review from someone who does great reviews for over a decade is not coping, but exposing how weak and outdated Starfield is.

@hardwenzen oh he's right. I need all the copium i can get, because ive been dealing with the floppage of Starfield really badly. It reminded me of the death of my pet queen ant that had passed away. So with starfield being hyped as the second coming of the messiah to these poor reviews, my heart has been broken :(

Four threads on Starfield from him just this month. The loyalty people have to inanimate objects always raises an eyebrow here.

@hardwenzen: "Great reviews for over a decade".

You're a troll.

@daredevils2k: You should go back to just admitting you're a dumba$$.

The only reason you're saying this is because he gave Infinite the correct score, which was a 6🤣

@hardwenzen: I can honestly say I have never watched one of his videos, and I never will. The guy is trash.

Posting his videos as some sort of confirmation is an act of desperation.

Worried Spider-Man 2 is going to fall to the 80s on MC?

Oh, and you have no idea what Starfield "should" get - you've never played it, troll.

Your game, on which you're at a desperate NG+4 is almost in the 70's, and you're talking about Spiderman2, a title that has zero chance of going lower? By NG+20 you will have less experience with Bethesda titles than i already do, and you want me to play Starfield? Lets not play around a barrel of dogwater, and just say it how it is. Starfield is below everage, and doesn't even deserve to be running for goty of this year. You heard it, it should be bg3, totk, wonder, re4r and Alan Wake 2🤣Starfield nowhere to be seen🤣NG+4 for what? The game isn't even running for the goty award🤣

Is that stuff really that good? If it is, I'll switch from Mountain Dew to G-Fuel😋

Does this apply to all the Xbox victims constantly gaslighting everyone in this very forum?

Hmmm, I'd have to watch an Angry Joe review. No thanks.

Do you believe loyalty to inanimate objects only goes one way, hmm? What does your critical thinking cap say? Or are you too engrained that you have to project your whataboutism?

Everyone on SW are so anty aj. His reviews are pretty much always much more accurate than GS lmao.

@Stevo_the_gamer: huh? Starfield was hyped as the next biggest system seller/saviour for Xbox. Now that people have had the opportunity to let the game simmer, it appears that it didn’t quite move the needle for Xbox.

So now that people are calling out how mediocre it is after all that chest beating and hype (rightfully so), it’s a result of people having a “loyalty to inanimate objects?”

How bout just that the game was mid and forum users are calling out all the Xbox peeps who evangelized how great it was going to be. it’s always the green team that is so fragile when they’re called out.

What was confusing to you and your thinking cap?

@hardwenzen: Spider-Man 2 is 90. One more 8/10 score, and it's at 89.

Starfield is at 83, but it was released almost 2 months ago - how many more reviews are out there?

@randy_lahey: Did you see the news articles about Startfield being credited for record numbers for Xbox?

Just... ignored that news day, huh?

@dabear: lol fluff PR numbers don’t mean shit. The MS propaganda machine seems to always get you guys.

Do you think 11 million people that touched the game for at least 10 seconds is a meaningful stat? Xbox continuously manipulates definition of success to suit them.

@daredevils2k said:

@hardwenzen said:

@dabear said:

@hardwenzen said:

@dabear said:

Another Starfield thread.

Here, bro. Have some more copium:

Dude, what are you even saying with your copium? This is not how you use it properly. What is wrong with you as of late?

He is "coping" with the fact that he cannot play Starfield and that ABK is now a division of Microsoft Game Studios. So, I am giving him some copium.

So, yes, that is the correct usage.

Posting a review from someone who does great reviews for over a decade is not coping, but exposing how weak and outdated Starfield is.

@hardwenzen oh he's right. I need all the copium i can get, because ive been dealing with the floppage of Starfield really badly. It reminded me of the death of my pet queen ant that had passed away. So with starfield being hyped as the second coming of the messiah to these poor reviews, my heart has been broken :(

Look your copium is helping me a lot these past few weeks. with the floppage of redfall, one of my favorite MP game Overwatch series getting so much hate these days and loadingfield getting bad reviews and will not win GOTY, the copium you gave me have got me through such hard times.

Spiderman 2 will never reach 89, so stop dreaming.

@hardwenzen: Probably not. But, it's possible.

I really don't care what it scores. I'm notcgoing to buy a PS5, so it makes no difference to me.

You will buy a ps5. Might not be this year, but i am expecting you to get it by the end of next year.

@randy_lahey said:

@uitravioience said:

@iambatman7986: you're in a forum called "system wars", where a game that Microsoft payed $8 billion for and 25 years in the making. And then scored a low 7. Of course people are still dunking on that flop.

If that makes ya'll feel better about what you have to play, cool I guess. I haven't played Starfield yet, but I will. I'm too busy with Bulder's Gate III and I still have Spiderman 2 to play after I finish that. I will try Starfield sometime in November or December. My expectations were always of Skyrim in space, so if that is what it is, then it meets my expectations. I didn't keep up with the development of the game, so I don't know what was expected or promised by the developer. I know a few people who are enjoying their time with it, but like I said, I am expecting a good game, not a great game. I haven't found Bethesda games great since Morrowind though.