Tom McShea: Why Beyond Two Souls is Better than a Movie

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#51  Edited By RyviusARC
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@starjet905 said:

@RyviusARC said:

I have the whole series, except for the Epilogue recorded on my YouTube channel.

I am working on recorded the Epilogue right now and will upload it eventually.

Without the Epilogue the recorded footage ends up being 60 hours long.

The game is very hard when it comes to getting 100% completion. Even the walkthrough is hard to understand.

Can't even upload the image here or display it so here is a link so you can understand how complicated it is.

http://i.cubeupload.com/TRPPvY.jpg

Some people have actually watched all 60 hours I have uploaded of the game because they wanted to experience the story rather than go through the process of understanding the walkthrough.

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@RyviusARC said:

Man, I really need to play Yu-No sometime. Bothers me greatly that I still haven't, but I always find myself out of time to begin such a long adventure.

I'd still like to at least try on my own first. It's usually my policy to go blind on my first run with something like this.

Oh, and by the way, if you haven't, you should try Kara no Shoujo.

Well if you go through a blind run on YU-NO you will be spending a ton of time back tracking because you will most likely forget to get an item that you need to progress.

I have played through Kara no Shoujo .

It was actually refreshing to see a Japanese game take place in a different timeline than what is usually seen.

I enjoyed the game but I really disliked the slot machine approach to the story.

While YU-NO also suffers from needing a walkthrough to progress through it smoothly at least with YU-NO you are not on a limit of possible moves.

In Kara no Shoujo you can only make a certain amount of choices on where to go in a day.

And despite being a detective the game does not really treat you (the player) as one when it comes to catching the killer.

It does allow you to discover clues but even if you know who the killer is it won't make a difference unless you get lucky.

It basically comes down to you being lucky enough to consistently choose the right place to go to without mistakenly going to the wrong place and I couldn't see any hints that tell you where you need to go.

It became frustrating because I had to replay the game many times and just repeatedly choose a few places per game day without even knowing if I was making the right choice.

I eventually had to use a walkthrough to get the true ending.

With YU-NO the player gets a map which shows where you are in the game and when there is going to be a split in the story. You will also be warned when there is a special event nearby or an item you need.

With Kara no Shoujo it felt like there was so much more that could of been said in the game.

I guess the sequel that came out last year will explain more.

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#52  Edited By casharmy
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@Lumpy311 said:
@casharmy said:

@UNcartMe said:

@WilliamRLBaker:

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lol Tom Mcshea and by extension all gamespot editors are sellout fools.

Dude liked the game, give him a break. I think it looks interesting.

It's funny because lemmings were defending Toms lower review and score of TLOU when it went against majority critical opinon, lol but now "he is a sell out".

Lemmings are without equal when it comes to flip flopping on arguments when things don't work out to make their console appear to be on top.

Lemmings are nowhere near the level of flip flopping of cows.

lol you and other pro xbox fans don't do a good job of showing that then.

Perhaps you just play whatever script you have written for yourself in your mind and then you act on that. And maybe that is why reality is something that is completely different than what you think and want to believe.

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#54  Edited By casharmy
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@Lumpy311:

I only call what I see buddy.

If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...you know the rest. You aren't the first guy who comes in bashing everything sony or playstation related and completely loves everything xbox/MS that has claimed to be a hermit and you won't be the last. The wild anger, rage, name calling and inability to post reply without displaying the previous tendencies is also a trait shared by most lemmings.

If you are not a lemming, you sure act like one. So there is no reason to treat you as if your were a hermit. Stay up.

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#56 casharmy
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@Lumpy311:

like I said "If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...you know the rest."...Stay up.

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#57 Lumpy311
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@casharmy said:

@Lumpy311:

like I said "If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...you know the rest."...Stay up.

Your posts are just idiotic.

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#58  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@ starjet905

well I don't know about everybody else but stories in video games are in a very sad state right now both in Quality and Execution so mixing and middlegrounding isn't gona do squat to change that, I believe if you you like both passive and interactive intertainment you should get your fill from the medium that specialises in it, it may not do much for the individual, but it't do wonders for the interactive medium, which is bigger than the individual.

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#59 casharmy
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@Lumpy311:

@Lumpy311 said:

@casharmy said:

@Lumpy311:

like I said "If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...you know the rest."...Stay up.

Your posts are just idiotic.

Your opinion has been noted, move along.

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#60 Lumpy311
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@casharmy said:

@Lumpy311:

@Lumpy311 said:

@casharmy said:

@Lumpy311:

like I said "If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...you know the rest."...Stay up.

Your posts are just idiotic.

Your opinion has been noted, move along.

Someone having an hard time proving his claims?

No wonder.

Also, this layout is worse than cancer.

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#61 Lotus-Edge
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@GhoX said:

It may be better than a movie, and indeed some movies are better than crappy games. However, it will always be a lesser experience in the face of a truly mighty game that rivals its story and possesses genuine gameplay. Ignoring the difficulty that would serve as a barrier to some gamers, the Demon's/Dark Souls series is probably at the opposite end of this spectrum - epic story through passive storytelling and masterfully-crafted gameplay.

Extremely passive....

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#62 Lulu_Lulu
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^ But not intrusive. So its not a problem.

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#63 Jankarcop
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I want to play games, not movies.


Consolites can stick with this garbage.

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#64  Edited By rjdofu
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It's not even a good movie, and Ellen Page is not a good actor. Those dead eyes make me wanna turn off youtube.

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#65 jg4xchamp
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Hooray the usual "videogames have so much potential due to being interactive" argument, that completely ignores that by and large Film is a more organic story telling medium since it doesn't have to compromise itself the way a game does.

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#67 Rage010101
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lol so this is basically a glorified movie

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#68  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@ jg4xchamp

Cut the smart talk and just admit it, you prefer movies don't you. They are not better, you just like them more.

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#69 dramaybaz
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A movie being compared to other movies.

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#70  Edited By Jankarcop
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i hope this trend dies soon. consoles really hate games.

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#71 Lulu_Lulu
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^ another coward running his mouth but not explaining squat ! Go save Peach or something !