TLOU: Left Behind vs MGS5: Ground Zeroes

I haven't played GZ yet.

Ground Zeroes, worst best game of all time.

Left Behind was meh... Too overrated and we know why. Ground Zeroes was also cash grab (should've been free or at least like 10$ or lower on launch) but it's a lot better than Left Behind. Ground Zeroes has a lot of replay value.

You mean best demo we all bought.

glad I grabbed it for $6 on a flash sale versus paying whatever ungodly price everyone else did

Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - best payable demo of all time

Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - best game of all time

B)

Ground Zero had a slightly advantage over Left Behind, GZ was free on PS+ last month and Left Behind wasn't all that, and it felt like it wanted to focus on using Facebook stuff. GZ all the way.

Godjima-San.

I got Ground Zeroes free on PSN. And it's fucking incredible. Leaving aside the price, it's just a really awesome piece of next gen gaming. I'd have to rank it higher than Left Behind, I think.

If Ground Zeroes is a demo, then it's the greatest demo ever made.

I haven't played Left Behind, but I spent more time with Ground Zeroes than the entirety of TLOU.

I bought Ground Zeroes twice, once on 360 then again on PS4. So yeah that should give my answer. :p

Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg... and my arm... even my fingers. The body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our past.

Quite a sadistic choice.

I guess Ground Zeroes.

havent played GZ, so i won't vote.

But Left Behind was a great DLC. It was short, straight to the point, emotional, story-driven and added all of the elements to the IP that I felt the original TLOU lacked. A game based around Ellie surviving, by usually trying to avoid conflict, is a much different experience than a game around Joel surviving (by killing scores of infected).

Ground Zeroes.

Crazy amount of replay value and freedom given to the player.

Naughty Dog can only dream of surpassing Kojima. even MGS4, a game that gets shat on by people here has more replay value and gameplay options than any Naughty Dog game.

Kojima> Naughty Dog easily.

Same... well I bought PS4 and then PC. But yep, still worth it lol.

From what I've played of GZ it's better Left Behind was good but a little slow, however Final Fantasy XV Episode Duscae is very good and seems to fit in with GZ/LB

GZ by a landslide.

I actually got a lot of time with GZ. I didn't look up every strat to get the trophies and how to beat ever mission in 2 minutes like many ppl did.

Well worth $30.

@ConanTheStoner: It is such a smooth experience, Kojima definitely took notice of how to make the series even better. TPP is looking to be absolutely amazing.

Right on bro. I've always enjoyed MGS gameplay, but this is the overhaul it needed and they damn knocked it out of the park. I was shocked at how well GZ played when I first got it.

Nah, bruh. Episode Duscae is scrub tier.

I haven't played either one.

But I will say that TLOU > MGS4.

Definitely. But to be fair even Ground Zeroes shits on MGS4.

@ConanTheStoner: I agree 100%. I have loved every game in the series, even with the clunky controls from MGS 1 -3 and 4, I was astonished by what they were able to accomplish. I pray Kojima can take that talent into new heights now.

@ConanTheStoner: I've actually liked it a lot more than I thought I would, can't judge GZ too much though think I've played it for like 20 minutes so far, but from that I was having fun with it

Ground Zeroes by a lot. Never understood the love for Left Behind. It was fine but didn't think it was such a great thing.

Wow. No way for me. I can still enjoy playing MGS4. I haven't touched TLOU in a long time.

@meathead373:

lol I'm just talking shit man (and wanted an excuse to use that gif). I haven't even played Episode Duscae, I just watched it on Youtube and read some impressions.

Metal Gear Online had me coming back over and over again, but my first play of MGS4 should have been my last. Of course being the MGS fanboy that I am, I had to see how the game played out with no kills/no alerts... then the emblem hunts. I felt like I was obligated to know the game inside out. Haven't touched it since then though.

MGS1, 2 and 3? Played dozens of times each. Ground Zeroes? I'm pushing dozens of hours on that.

Occasionally I'm tempted to check out the first chapter or two of MGS4, but that's about it.

TLOU has the best multiplayer.

Completely forgot left behind exists. I'm gonna download and play that tonight depending on how much it costs. Ground Zeroes though, I love it! But then I'm a MGS fanboy. I admit it took me a while to get into for some reason.

Didn't score 10/10 on most major websites for no reason you know.

I probably completed MGS4 dozens of times and still enjoyable as the first time.

That's how people easily get 30-40 hours of gameplay out of a 2 hour long demo.

@ConanTheStoner: all in good fun my man, that gif was amusing I'll definitely give you that one

Do you guys think The Phantom Pain will be better than TLOU?

And does Kiefer Sutherland do a better job than David Hayter?

MGS4 went to shit after act 2. Granted Act 4 wasn't terrible but disappointing.

Plus NANOMACHINES.

Yes

And yes

Why will Phantom Pain be better, because of it's graphics?

Remember how MGS IV had amazing graphics but it was boring?

Ground Zeroes.

Enjoyed the extra story in LB, but the encounters felt a bit too forced.

I got it with PSN+, but then decided to not play it and experience full game when it releases.

Not a fan of the kiss? Haha

@drekula2: MGS5 will certainly beat Uncharted 4, buddy.

Left Behind is a one-and-done 1 hour long bit of Oscar bait story.

If GZ'd only included the story mission and had been linear from start to finish, there would be room for comparison.

As it stands, GZ is a vastly superior videogame.

Oh right. Forgot about that lol.

Yeah, it kinda came off like Naughty Dog was desperate to be the first videogame developer to win a GLAAD award.

some people are gay, get over it lol

Both of them are overpriced and extremely short. GZ shouldn't even cost a penny but at least it has replay value unlike Left Behind. Although the replay value is essentially doing the same thing in a very boring manner. I say spend your money on something else like Pillars of Eternity which is a far far far superior game.

Yeah, but being gay doesn't make someone any more or less interesting...

I don't think anyone is hyping MGSV over its graphics. It's a cross gen title. It's an open world game. In some instances it does look pretty decent, but in others (the latest gameplay demo for example) it occasionally looks like a dated PS3 game.

I'm not saying the game will look bad, but it's not going to be selling on graphics, that's for sure.

Why do people think Phantom Pain will be better? Because we already have a lengthy playable demo that showcases ridiculously good gameplay and replay value. Then we've seen multiple lengthy stage demos that show us how well that gameplay pans out in a much larger world with far more options. We don't have to guess about how well it will play, we already know what we're getting.

With MGS4, all we really got before launch was a bunch of story trailers and little snippets of the media attempting to play while failing. We only had a vague idea of how the game would play, based on what we read in articles.

Well, you might want to check it out because..

1. It is its own thing and won't be included in The Phantom Pain.

2. Playing Ground Zeroes will unlock content for The Phantom Pain.