thw wii will end it for us true gamers

First off all, i wanna be the first one to say that the
wii will kill gaming as it stands and will not allow for further
development or "evolution" of gaming. I work at a game store and i am
so tired of parents coming in asking "you got a wii" well first of
their isn't enough out there to meet demand, so what does that mean
gentleman: that the much needed and reallied tween market is all hogged
by Nintendo. Now what happens here is that games such as painkiller or
bullitwitch get no revenue. So this lack in sales put studios in a
position where they have to decide weather the develop for the wii at
lets say 500K or make a next gen game that costs 1.5m. Now lets say
lets say the profit turn around for the wii game is 60. Good business
eh. So what about next gen game??? well they lost money in cause no one
bought it, cause the wii game came out cheaper and had no one looking
forward to it. Sounds like the wii is the way to go right cheaper
priced games and cheaper priced console. Big problem with that, if the
only machine that makes money is a machine that has games that look
like flash animation (ie wario ware) or they look like they could have
been on a psx or n64 (red steel) it leaves very little room for growth.
Yes people that 800mhz processor does have its limit and when it caps
out visually stunning games like GOW will be lost forever. Also you can
argue the wii has great game play, ok lets look at that, open door
shake controller , reload shake controller, use scalpel move
controller,(I could do that with a mouse or stylus) If user interaction
means great game play is say this "virtual boy" and we all know how
that ended. I will say one more thing the wii is the backwards console.
What do I mean, well I ll go by example. The Gamecube (which I love and
beat zelda TP on) had its handheld the GBA. Games that came for GC had
a version on the Gba. Now we have the Ds in which games for that come
on the wii. On any regular system, its meant to be enjoyed one player
where you could ALONE play for hours on end, ie ps3 or x360, heck even
GC. With the wii you could only really enjoy it truly with friends,
otherwise after an hour of listening to those dam raving rabbits alone
you wanna shoot someone. not to mention your hand gets tired. If i
wanna shake my nunchuk for an extended amount of time ill just well...you know. This way I wont have to spend 20 bucks an add on for a controller.
Gimme a break an add on, thats wii-tarded. Another thing wheres the Ethernet
port? Their online service aside from world news is a joke and even
that, what tween or even teen cares about whats going on in Guam. I do
but than again if i wanna know that I learned how to read or go to
cnn.com. The standard for online now is the xbox live service. Its
better, easier and more enjoyable than that joke of a server nintendo
has (which i have come to the conclusion is Miyamoto's old P2 laptop) I
dont have any bias towards any system, I own a wii , x360 and ps3, (I
get them cheap like 200 bucks off cheap) and my fav is x360. It is the
example of everything we ever wanted to do as a kid in gameing. The ps3
is ahead of its time and we'll only truly see its potential in years to
come. One last thing, if you say that the wii brings in new people to
gaming i say this" they were not interested in gaming before and soon
enough they again will not be interested in gaming" The system is a tribute to our childhood memories and as far as the kids playing it now, their going to get used this level of "game play" Im 24 and I am not that big of a gamer, and i know we will be disappointed.

elmanuel0329

Its the end of the world as we know it....

And I feel fine.

a true gamer plays all games lol

a true gamer plays all games lol

gameofthering

[QUOTE="gameofthering"]

a true gamer plays all games lol

UKNintendoFreak

:o And all this time I thought a true gamer was someone who liked games.....

Are there any other requirements, because I really want to be sure I'm not just an impostor gamer.

[QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="gameofthering"]

a true gamer plays all games lol

YellowPik

:o And all this time I thought a true gamer was someone who liked games.....

Are there any other requirements, because I really want to be sure I'm not just an impostor gamer.

Here is simple explanation, the wii will handbanana  the industryelmanuel0329

Upload the image to a site like imageshack first.

"Wii is the biggest waste of money I have ever spent"

If you don't like your Wii, give it to me.

Peter Moore once said the 360's target market is male, 24 year old, and college graduate. At least he go 2 out of 3 on your case.inerte

Too bad us college students cant afford to spend more then 250 on a console in most cases, cause we like to spend our money on booze instead, seems like a better waste of our money instead of buying a piece of crap and buggy console like the 360.

[QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="gameofthering"]

a true gamer plays all games lol

YellowPik

:o And all this time I thought a true gamer was someone who liked games.....

Are there any other requirements, because I really want to be sure I'm not just an impostor gamer.

[QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="gameofthering"]

a true gamer plays all games lol

YellowPik

:o And all this time I thought a true gamer was someone who liked games.....

Are there any other requirements, because I really want to be sure I'm not just an impostor gamer.

If the ps2 didnt kill gaming with over half of its library being full of shallow, half-a**ed games I am sure the wii wont be able to eitherdonaldo1989

[QUOTE="YellowPik"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="gameofthering"]

a true gamer plays all games lol

Tylendal

:o And all this time I thought a true gamer was someone who liked games.....

Are there any other requirements, because I really want to be sure I'm not just an impostor gamer.

"True Gamers" A true gamer plays all games. You really need to stop whining. Even if Nintendo wins that doesn't mean MS and Sony are going anywhere. N64 and Gamecube weren't market leaders and Nintendo is still here. So if Nintendo won why would it change anything? Dry your tears and put away the cleanex because even if Nintendo wins that won't mean the end for Sony or MS. You act as if only one company can survive the console industry.Blackbond

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="YellowPik"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="gameofthering"]

a true gamer plays all games lol

UKNintendoFreak

:o And all this time I thought a true gamer was someone who liked games.....

Are there any other requirements, because I really want to be sure I'm not just an impostor gamer.

not compelling and way long. Seriously, the only thing you said the wii would discourage graphically impressive games. I just paraphrased your whole article. And that's a fine point, that's been made here 100+ times. It's been expanded to include inferior AI and game length and online, etc.

I disagree with the point. In fact, sony and ms now have MORE incentive to make impressive looking games to differentiate themselves from nintendo. Personally, I dont see how anyone can "destroy" the gaming industry. If nintendo succeeds, that means they are making what people want. How could you fault that? Its not like nintendo is regressive. People like the wii because it is so unique, and you must know that since you admit to playing the dam games. EG WARIOWARE.

It's blindingly obvious to me that the only reason that some wii games are stumbling now is because the tech is so new as a standardized implementation. I imagine that the wii will lay the groundwork for motion sensing and instant cursors in video games in the years to come. You want to know the wii's contribution: in the next generations we'll have consoles that are graphically impressive, with great online, and have motion sensing technology standard, but probably optional. That is something

Let me begin my saying I am most likley older than you, been gaming longer and played more games for more consoles than you have.  I consider myself to be a true gamer.  Anyone who calls themselves a true gamer and then makes such a ridiculous fanboy claim that the wii will "end it" should be ashamed of themselves.  Truly and deeply ashamed for living a lie and believing they actaul care about what gaming is and what it means.   You sir are NOT a true gamer.  You are a poser.  You view gaming the same way you view your car most likely...as something to inflate your ego and make you feel better about yourself.  You only care about gaming so far as it's cool and you can impress others with it.

Now on to your embarasingly fanboy arguement:

First off all, i wanna be the first one to say that the
wii will kill gaming as it stands and will not allow for further
development or "evolution" of gaming.elmanuel0329

The wii comes up with new ways to play games and interact with games.  This will open the door few new TYPES of games.  If you don't consider that to be "further development" or "evolution" then go back to your collection of FPSers and SPlinter Cell sequals. 

 I work at a game store

That explains a lot.  Everytime I talk to some "game store" employee they are almost always clueless and misinformed.

and i am
so tired of parents coming in asking "you got a wii" well first of
their isn't enough out there to meet demand, so what does that mean
gentleman: that the much needed and reallied tween market is all hogged
by Nintendo.

Or maybe they want it because it costs much less.  Or maybe because they themselves are interested in it. I also find it highly difficult to believe that only parents come in asking for the wii.  As if no adult could want the wii for themselves unless they have a kid at home.  Do you know this for a fact or are you just making this crap up once you filter the information through your mental fanboy filter?

Now what happens here is that games such as painkiller or
bullitwitch get no revenue.

OH NOES!  Crappy games nobody wants get no revenue!  We need government subsidies!

 this lack in sales put studios in a
position where they have to decide weather the develop for the wii at
lets say 500K or make a next gen game that costs 1.5m.

If that is what they think then they deserve to go under.  The quality and greatness of a game has very little to do with how much it costs to make.  There is absolutely no proof at all that putting more money into game development will improve sales.  especially considered there is not likely to be ANY console this gen that floods the market the way the PS1 or PS2 did. 

Now lets say
lets say the profit turn around for the wii game is 60. Good business
eh. So what about next gen game??? well they lost money in cause no one
bought it, cause the wii game came out cheaper and had no one looking
forward to it. Sounds like the wii is the way to go right cheaper
priced games and cheaper priced console. Big problem with that, if the
only machine that makes money is a machine that has games that look
like flash animation (ie wario ware) or they look like they could have
been on a psx or n64 (red steel) it leaves very little room for growth.

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.  Innovation and quality have NOTHING...again, NOTHING...to do with how much a game costs to make.  Innovation is being able to do something new with what you are given to work with, not spend a bunch of money cranking out s**t with good graphics.

Yes people that 800mhz processor does have its limit and when it caps
out visually stunning games like GOW will be lost forever.

So?

 Also you can
argue the wii has great game play, ok lets look at that, open door
shake controller , reload shake controller, use scalpel move
controller,(I could do that with a mouse or stylus) If user interaction
means great game play is say this "virtual boy" and we all know how
that ended.

What?  Try making sense next time you make a post.  If you think the controller = gameplay then every non-wii game must suck because what is fun about pushing buttons. How fun the game is and how it plays = gameplay, not waving the controller around.  However, the Wii controller opens the possibility few new TYPES of games with new types of gameplay. 

 I will say one more thing the wii is the backwards console.
What do I mean, well I ll go by example. The Gamecube (which I love and
beat zelda TP on) had its handheld the GBA. Games that came for GC had
a version on the Gba. Now we have the Ds in which games for that come
on the wii. On any regular system, its meant to be enjoyed one player
where you could ALONE play for hours on end, ie ps3 or x360, heck even
GC. With the wii you could only really enjoy it truly with friends,

WHAT?  This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.  I have a Wii.  I play it by myself 90% of the time.  I have FUN....and I don't own Wario or Raving Rabbits. 

otherwise after an hour of listening to those dam raving rabbits alone
you wanna shoot someone. not to mention your hand gets tired.

Wow...you just keep on digging don't you?  Your hand gets tired playing wii?  You haven't played it have you?  Stop lying and fess up. 

If i
wanna shake my nunchuk for an extended amount of time ill just well...you know.

OH SNAP!  With this one sentence you have proven to everyone here that not only are you NOT a real gamer...you are 12.

I can't even go through the entire thread.  You have no idea what you are talking about.  You are nothing but a poser and a liar who thinks he's a real gamer but isn't.  Drop the act and just admit you don't care about gaming.  For you videogames is just an accessory you like to show off to feel cooler.

Sorry, couldn't get past the "true gamers" part.  Is this the opposite of fake gamers?twags82

Oh yeah and IMO, the Wii is moving us closer to VR.Jrob2k8

Let me begin my saying I am most likley older than you, been gaming longer and played more games for more consoles than you have. I consider myself to be a true gamer. Anyone who calls themselves a true gamer and then makes such a ridiculous fanboy claim that the wii will "end it" should be ashamed of themselves. Truly and deeply ashamed for living a lie and believing they actaul care about what gaming is and what it means. You sir are NOT a true gamer. You are a poser. You view gaming the same way you view your car most likely...as something to inflate your ego and make you feel better about yourself. You only care about gaming so far as it's cool and you can impress others with it.

Now on to your embarasingly fanboy arguement:

[QUOTE="elmanuel0329"]First off all, i wanna be the first one to say that the
wii will kill gaming as it stands and will not allow for further
development or "evolution" of gaming.ZIMdoom

The wii comes up with new ways to play games and interact with games. This will open the door few new TYPES of games. If you don't consider that to be "further development" or "evolution" then go back to your collection of FPSers and SPlinter Cell sequals.

I work at a game store

That explains a lot. Everytime I talk to some "game store" employee they are almost always clueless and misinformed.

and i am
so tired of parents coming in asking "you got a wii" well first of
their isn't enough out there to meet demand, so what does that mean
gentleman: that the much needed and reallied tween market is all hogged
by Nintendo.

Or maybe they want it because it costs much less. Or maybe because they themselves are interested in it. I also find it highly difficult to believe that only parents come in asking for the wii. As if no adult could want the wii for themselves unless they have a kid at home. Do you know this for a fact or are you just making this crap up once you filter the information through your mental fanboy filter?

Now what happens here is that games such as painkiller or
bullitwitch get no revenue.

OH NOES! Crappy games nobody wants get no revenue! We need government subsidies!

this lack in sales put studios in a
position where they have to decide weather the develop for the wii at
lets say 500K or make a next gen game that costs 1.5m.

If that is what they think then they deserve to go under. The quality and greatness of a game has very little to do with how much it costs to make. There is absolutely no proof at all that putting more money into game development will improve sales. especially considered there is not likely to be ANY console this gen that floods the market the way the PS1 or PS2 did.

Now lets say
lets say the profit turn around for the wii game is 60. Good business
eh. So what about next gen game??? well they lost money in cause no one
bought it, cause the wii game came out cheaper and had no one looking
forward to it. Sounds like the wii is the way to go right cheaper
priced games and cheaper priced console. Big problem with that, if the
only machine that makes money is a machine that has games that look
like flash animation (ie wario ware) or they look like they could have
been on a psx or n64 (red steel) it leaves very little room for growth.

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Innovation and quality have NOTHING...again, NOTHING...to do with how much a game costs to make. Innovation is being able to do something new with what you are given to work with, not spend a bunch of money cranking out s**t with good graphics.

Yes people that 800mhz processor does have its limit and when it caps
out visually stunning games like GOW will be lost forever.

So?

Also you can
argue the wii has great game play, ok lets look at that, open door
shake controller , reload shake controller, use scalpel move
controller,(I could do that with a mouse or stylus) If user interaction
means great game play is say this "virtual boy" and we all know how
that ended.

What? Try making sense next time you make a post. If you think the controller = gameplay then every non-wii game must suck because what is fun about pushing buttons. How fun the game is and how it plays = gameplay, not waving the controller around. However, the Wii controller opens the possibility few new TYPES of games with new types of gameplay.

I will say one more thing the wii is the backwards console.
What do I mean, well I ll go by example. The Gamecube (which I love and
beat zelda TP on) had its handheld the GBA. Games that came for GC had
a version on the Gba. Now we have the Ds in which games for that come
on the wii. On any regular system, its meant to be enjoyed one player
where you could ALONE play for hours on end, ie ps3 or x360, heck even
GC. With the wii you could only really enjoy it truly with friends,

WHAT? This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. I have a Wii. I play it by myself 90% of the time. I have FUN....and I don't own Wario or Raving Rabbits.

otherwise after an hour of listening to those dam raving rabbits alone
you wanna shoot someone. not to mention your hand gets tired.

Wow...you just keep on digging don't you? Your hand gets tired playing wii? You haven't played it have you? Stop lying and fess up.

If i
wanna shake my nunchuk for an extended amount of time ill just well...you know.

OH SNAP! With this one sentence you have proven to everyone here that not only are you NOT a real gamer...you are 12.

I can't even go through the entire thread. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are nothing but a poser and a liar who thinks he's a real gamer but isn't. Drop the act and just admit you don't care about gaming. For you videogames is just an accessory you like to show off to feel cooler.

No.:|

There will still be hardcore systems for hardcore gamers in the future. The Wii won't change gaming as it is. It's just creating a different path.

I just love it when the fanboys fear the Wii so much they say it will destroy gaming or something!:lol:VGobbsesser