There was a new RollerCoaster Tycoon

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#1 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

It was released for 3DS about a month ago and noone cared (probably because it was made by n-space)

It has a score of 38 on metacritic with 0 positive reviews.

What was Atari thinking ?

#2 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -

its a shame they gained the rights, honestly the only person who does rct justice as we have seen is Chris Sawyer.But afaik he's left the industry all together.

Shame to see an IP that was developed in basically my back garden get destroyed by atari who have a habit of wrecking games with potential...im looking at you TDU2.

#3 Posted by freedomfreak (38717 posts) -
Damn. That's pretty bad. Closest I got to Rollercoaster Tycoon was Theme Park World, which was awesome
#4 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

its a shame they gained the rights, honestly the only person who does rct justice as we have seen is Chris Sawyer.But afaik he's left the industry all together.

Shame to see an IP that was developed in basically my back garden get destroyed by atari who have a habit of wrecking games with potential...im looking at you TDU2.

razgriz_101

Last I heard he wasn't to happy with how they made RCT3 (something about royalties) and sued Atari.

Oh yeah TDU2 is another great example of a good series turned to crap.

Luckily though TDU and RCT 1 &2 are still a lot of fun to play:)

#5 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

Damn. That's pretty bad. Closest I got to Rollercoaster Tycoon was Theme Park World, which was awesomefreedomfreak

Never played that one, was it on consoles ?

I remember playing the first Theme Park, it was kinda like RCT but not as fleshed out.

Even for its age I would still recommend checking out RCT if you come by it somehow.;)

Here are its system requirements:

Intel or compatible processor at 90 MHz or better
16 MB of RAM
55 MB of free hard disk space
plus another 45 MB for Corkscrew Follies
plus another 45 MB for Loopy Landscapes
Graphics card with 1 MB of video RAM
Windows 95 or newer

So it can run on pretty much anything, even netbooks.

#6 Posted by freedomfreak (38717 posts) -

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Damn. That's pretty bad. Closest I got to Rollercoaster Tycoon was Theme Park World, which was awesomeR4gn4r0k

Never played that one, was it on consoles ?

I remember playing the first Theme Park, it was kinda like RCT but not as fleshed out.

Even for its age I would still recommend checking out RCT if you come by it somehow.;)

Here are its system requirements:

Intel or compatible processor at 90 MHz or better
16 MB of RAM
55 MB of free hard disk space
plus another 45 MB for Corkscrew Follies
plus another 45 MB for Loopy Landscapes
Graphics card with 1 MB of video RAM
Windows 95 or newer

So it can run on pretty much anything, even netbooks.

I played it on the ps1. Building rollercoasters was just a part of the game. I'm pretty sure my computer can run that :P
#7 Posted by clyde46 (44007 posts) -

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Damn. That's pretty bad. Closest I got to Rollercoaster Tycoon was Theme Park World, which was awesomeR4gn4r0k

Never played that one, was it on consoles ?

I remember playing the first Theme Park, it was kinda like RCT but not as fleshed out.

Even for its age I would still recommend checking out RCT if you come by it somehow.;)

Here are its system requirements:

Intel or compatible processor at 90 MHz or better
16 MB of RAM
55 MB of free hard disk space
plus another 45 MB for Corkscrew Follies
plus another 45 MB for Loopy Landscapes
Graphics card with 1 MB of video RAM
Windows 95 or newer

So it can run on pretty much anything, even netbooks.

I reckon you could run that on a tablet.
#8 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

I played it on the ps1. Building rollercoasters was just a part of the game. I'm pretty sure my computer can run that :Pfreedomfreak

Did you like it ?

Building rollercoasters is a lot of fun in RCT, they don't even have to work properly:P

You can get it on gog if you are interested;)

I reckon you could run that on a tablet.clyde46

If I ever get one, I'm def going to try it out.

#9 Posted by Gxgear (10425 posts) -

Speaking of rollercoasters, I miss Sim Theme Park.

#10 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]I played it on the ps1. Building rollercoasters was just a part of the game. I'm pretty sure my computer can run that :PR4gn4r0k

Did you like it ?

Building rollercoasters is a lot of fun in RCT, they don't even have to work properly:P

You can get it on gog if you are interested;)

I reckon you could run that on a tablet.clyde46

If I ever get one, I'm def going to try it out.

You can build some really intricate rollercoasters on it and even for its age, its aged extremely well in my book.

#11 Posted by balfe1990 (6747 posts) -

The first RollerCoaster Tycoon was literally awesome. Such a great title.

Then they released 2, which was actually the exact same game. People complain about each CoD game being a clone of the previous one, but take a look at those two games. It is uncanny.:lol:

So, yeah, disappointed to see what's happened to the franch.

#12 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -

The first RollerCoaster Tycoon was literally awesome. Such a great title.

Then they released 2, which was actually the exact same game. People complain about each CoD game being a clone of the previous one, but take a look at those two games. It is uncanny.:lol:

So, yeah, disappointed to see what's happened to the franch.

balfe1990

no it wasnt...just because it re-used the originals engine the physics were imroved,so were the building tools,park editior,six flags integration,at least triple the content of the first game and its addons.

So yeah...thats releasing the same game.

RCT2 pretty much built upon everything RCT1 done, and still holds up better than Theme Park World.

#13 Posted by balfe1990 (6747 posts) -

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

The first RollerCoaster Tycoon was literally awesome. Such a great title.

Then they released 2, which was actually the exact same game. People complain about each CoD game being a clone of the previous one, but take a look at those two games. It is uncanny.:lol:

So, yeah, disappointed to see what's happened to the franch.

razgriz_101

no it wasnt...just because it re-used the originals engine the physics were imroved,so were the building tools,park editior,six flags integration,at least triple the content of the first game and its addons.

So yeah...thats releasing the same game.

RCT2 pretty much built upon everything RCT1 done, and still holds up better than Theme Park World.

Sorry, you got a few new rides, a track editor and a couple of new scenarios.:lol: Everything else was the SAME. It looked the same, sounded the same and played the same.

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It was still the better game when stood next to the original of course, but you don't think it woud have served better as an expansion pack?

#14 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

The first RollerCoaster Tycoon was literally awesome. Such a great title.

Then they released 2, which was actually the exact same game. People complain about each CoD game being a clone of the previous one, but take a look at those two games. It is uncanny.:lol:

So, yeah, disappointed to see what's happened to the franch.

balfe1990

no it wasnt...just because it re-used the originals engine the physics were imroved,so were the building tools,park editior,six flags integration,at least triple the content of the first game and its addons.

So yeah...thats releasing the same game.

RCT2 pretty much built upon everything RCT1 done, and still holds up better than Theme Park World.

Sorry, you got a few new rides, a track editor and a couple of new scenarios.:lol: Everything else was the SAME. It looked the same, sounded the same and played the same.

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It was still the better game when stood next to the original of course, but you don't think it woud have served better as an expansion pack?

there was a lot of features that required changes to the engine itself like the scenario creator.

Heres some food for thought, that game was built by 3 people and is fully written in x86 assembly.

Your just a bit of an idiot when it comes to this but under the hood, the RCT2 engine has a fair few tweaks and all that under the hood, alogn with better physics aswell which is noticable in coaster desing as to where its been tweaked.

Just some food for thought.

Does this make Bad company 1 and 2 the same game? or Forza 3 and 4 the same game aswell? or even better Halo 3 and Reach? they all use the same engine by the logic you are using in this topic bout RCT they must all be the same aswell.

And kiddo calling cod the same game year in year out is old, and usually gets disproven to an extent that its usually an entirely new game who cares if they reuse an engine it must mean half the games in the industry are all the same game.......

#15 Posted by balfe1990 (6747 posts) -

there was a lot of features that required changes to the engine itself like the scenario creator.

Heres some food for thought, that game was built by 3 people and is fully written in x86 assembly.

Your just a bit of an idiot when it comes to this but under the hood, the RCT2 engine has a fair few tweaks and all that under the hood, alogn with better physics aswell which is noticable in coaster desing as to where its been tweaked.

Just some food for thought.

Does this make Bad company 1 and 2 the same game? or Forza 3 and 4 the same game aswell? or even better Halo 3 and Reach? they all use the same engine by the logic you are using in this topic bout RCT they must all be the same aswell.

And kiddo calling cod the same game year in year out is old, and usually gets disproven to an extent that its usually an entirely new game who cares if they reuse an engine it must mean half the games in the industry are all the same game.......

razgriz_101

Wow, I have inadvertently gotten under your skin.:?

If you're going to start slagging me off for no reason, I can't be bothered. See ya.

#16 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

there was a lot of features that required changes to the engine itself like the scenario creator.

Heres some food for thought, that game was built by 3 people and is fully written in x86 assembly.

Your just a bit of an idiot when it comes to this but under the hood, the RCT2 engine has a fair few tweaks and all that under the hood, alogn with better physics aswell which is noticable in coaster desing as to where its been tweaked.

Just some food for thought.

Does this make Bad company 1 and 2 the same game? or Forza 3 and 4 the same game aswell? or even better Halo 3 and Reach? they all use the same engine by the logic you are using in this topic bout RCT they must all be the same aswell.

And kiddo calling cod the same game year in year out is old, and usually gets disproven to an extent that its usually an entirely new game who cares if they reuse an engine it must mean half the games in the industry are all the same game.......

balfe1990

Wow, I have inadvertently gotten under your skin.:?

If you're going to start slagging me off for no reason, I can't be bothered. See ya.

so because i proved you wrong you assume that you have riled me and better yet i've supposidly slagged you.If you think kiddo's offensive and honestly i call everyone kiddo on and off the internet then thats your own issue and a bit silly you think a generalised name i use day in day out on this board = slagging.

I see we cant stand the heat of being proven wrong, and on another note loads of games re-use assets every iteration and extremely common.

#17 Posted by balfe1990 (6747 posts) -

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

there was a lot of features that required changes to the engine itself like the scenario creator.

Heres some food for thought, that game was built by 3 people and is fully written in x86 assembly.

Your just a bit of an idiot when it comes to this but under the hood, the RCT2 engine has a fair few tweaks and all that under the hood, alogn with better physics aswell which is noticable in coaster desing as to where its been tweaked.

Just some food for thought.

Does this make Bad company 1 and 2 the same game? or Forza 3 and 4 the same game aswell? or even better Halo 3 and Reach? they all use the same engine by the logic you are using in this topic bout RCT they must all be the same aswell.

And kiddo calling cod the same game year in year out is old, and usually gets disproven to an extent that its usually an entirely new game who cares if they reuse an engine it must mean half the games in the industry are all the same game.......

razgriz_101

Wow, I have inadvertently gotten under your skin.:?

If you're going to start slagging me off for no reason, I can't be bothered. See ya.

so because i proved you wrong you assume that you have riled me and better yet i've supposidly slagged you.If you think kiddo's offensive and honestly i call everyone kiddo on and off the internet then thats your own issue and a bit silly you think a generalised name i use day in day out on this board = slagging.

I see we cant stand the heat of being proven wrong, and on another note loads of games re-use assets every iteration and extremely common.

You didn't prove me wrong... You started banging on about tweaks to the engine. I simply stated that a lot of the second game is extremely similar. The interface is identical, the rides look the same, the control scheme is the SAME, the music is indistinguishable from the first. I have played both games.

You've vaguely said it has a "fair few tweaks". Ok, great. Nothing major obviously, so thus nothing they couldn't have introduced in an Expansion Pack, as they were want to do back in the day. Did this game warrant a 50 quid purchase when it released? I think not, as I'd have been fairly pissed off upon getting this clone on launch day.

You can go on about all the "under-the-hood" tweaks you want, but if it's not immediately apparent in the aesthetic or obvious in it's impact on the gameplay, how does that concern me, or any other gamer for that matter?

And don't go around calling people idiots for no apparent reason like all the other ten-a-penny trolls, it's a license to get ignored most of the time.

#18 Posted by coasterguy65 (5838 posts) -

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

there was a lot of features that required changes to the engine itself like the scenario creator.

Heres some food for thought, that game was built by 3 people and is fully written in x86 assembly.

Your just a bit of an idiot when it comes to this but under the hood, the RCT2 engine has a fair few tweaks and all that under the hood, alogn with better physics aswell which is noticable in coaster desing as to where its been tweaked.

Just some food for thought.

Does this make Bad company 1 and 2 the same game? or Forza 3 and 4 the same game aswell? or even better Halo 3 and Reach? they all use the same engine by the logic you are using in this topic bout RCT they must all be the same aswell.

And kiddo calling cod the same game year in year out is old, and usually gets disproven to an extent that its usually an entirely new game who cares if they reuse an engine it must mean half the games in the industry are all the same game.......

razgriz_101

Wow, I have inadvertently gotten under your skin.:?

If you're going to start slagging me off for no reason, I can't be bothered. See ya.

so because i proved you wrong you assume that you have riled me and better yet i've supposidly slagged you.If you think kiddo's offensive and honestly i call everyone kiddo on and off the internet then thats your own issue and a bit silly you think a generalised name i use day in day out on this board = slagging.

I see we cant stand the heat of being proven wrong, and on another note loads of games re-use assets every iteration and extremely common.

He's probably referring to this line "Your just a bit of an idiot when it comes to this" I'm also guessing the condescending tone didn't help. Of course this is just coming from an independent observer. I'm really not interested in getting in the middle of your disagreement.

However I will say basically the two games were the same. I put enough hours into them to know. Sure there were some minor tweaks, but the style, mechanics and the gameplay were almost exactly the same. RCT3 was when the series actually changed, and not for the best in my opinion.

#19 Posted by balfe1990 (6747 posts) -

However I will say basically the two games were the same. I put enough hours into them to know. Sure there were some minor tweaks, but the style, mechanics and the gameplay were almost exactly the same. RCT3 was when the series actually changed, and not for the best in my opinion.

coasterguy65

Thank you.

And you should know, being the coasterguy and all.:P

#20 Posted by coasterguy65 (5838 posts) -

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

However I will say basically the two games were the same. I put enough hours into them to know. Sure there were some minor tweaks, but the style, mechanics and the gameplay were almost exactly the same. RCT3 was when the series actually changed, and not for the best in my opinion.

balfe1990

Thank you.

And you should know, being the coasterguy and all.:P

No problem...and yeah I'm a bit of a coaster geek.

#21 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

The first RollerCoaster Tycoon was literally awesome. Such a great title.

Then they released 2, which was actually the exact same game. People complain about each CoD game being a clone of the previous one, but take a look at those two games. It is uncanny.:lol:

So, yeah, disappointed to see what's happened to the franch.

balfe1990

Looking back on it now it looks like the exact same game. But in actuallity it improved more than a standard COD sequel.

There was a lot more content. RCT1 without expansion packs just can't compare to the amount of content in RCT2 as razgriz said.

If you like 1 you will like 2 I guess :P

#22 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

He's probably referring to this line "Your just a bit of an idiot when it comes to this" I'm also guessing the condescending tone didn't help. Of course this is just coming from an independent observer. I'm really not interested in getting in the middle of your disagreement.

However I will say basically the two games were the same. I put enough hours into them to know. Sure there were some minor tweaks, but the style, mechanics and the gameplay were almost exactly the same. RCT3 was when the series actually changed, and not for the best in my opinion.

coasterguy65

For all I care they can make another 2D RCT. And make it almost exactly like 1&2 with tweaks and new content.

I don't care if its basically the same game. It was a great game then and the concept it still great now !:D

#23 Posted by Kinthalis (5280 posts) -

I hate Atari. They own the D&D license and instead of getting a proper Neverwinter Nights sequel we got crappy D&D online and what looks like yet another MMORPG with NWN online.

And now this. If a proper sequel were to be made and put up on Steam, my god. IT would easily sell a few million in the first 6 months. There hasn't been a new one in a LONG while. Every PC gamer I know would pick up a copy, even though they are into different genres, RCT would bring them all together.

Atari is just stupid.

#24 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

Sorry, you got a few new rides, a track editor and a couple of new scenarios.:lol: Everything else was the SAME. It looked the same, sounded the same and played the same.

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It was still the better game when stood next to the original of course, but you don't think it woud have served better as an expansion pack?

balfe1990

It had way more content than the other expansion packs and RCT1 put together. And it did have graphical improvements. RCT 2 did look better than 1.

Of course looking back on those old graphics now you might say its the same game. But judging oldvideo game graphics isn't always fair or straightforward.

Give it some time and people will say MW3 looks the exact same as BlopsII. And when the N64 came out it definitely had better graphics than the SNES.

But now I prefer the way some SNES games look over N64 launchgames anyday!

#25 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

I hate Atari. They own the D&D license and instead of getting a proper Neverwinter Nights sequel we got crappy D&D online and what looks like yet another MMORPG with NWN online.

And now this. If a proper sequel were to be made and put up on Steam, my god. IT would easily sell a few million in the first 6 months. There hasn't been a new one in a LONG while. Every PC gamer I know would pick up a copy, even though they are into different genres, RCT would bring them all together.

Atari is just stupid.

Kinthalis

Agreed. Their management is stupid.

I bet their next idea is to make a facebook game made by Nihilistic, they are even worse at caring for someone elses IP than n-space