The Witcher 2 looks like a console action RPG more than anything...

Change your mind alot dude...

"The Witcher 2 is not dumbed down.

It has items you can equip now, instead of just three armors in the entire game

They also added stealth mechanics , companions, and other stuff i guess"

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28222841/sorry-the-witcher-but-i-think-dragon-age-iis-plot-one-upped-you...spoiler

Which is it bud? Dumbed down or not dumbed down?

Fable with good graphics confirmed?MFDOOM1983

dude, your signature is AWESOME. Haha!

Change your mind alot dude...

"The Witcher 2 is not dumbed down.

It has items you can equip now, instead of just three armors in the entire game

They also added stealth mechanics , companions, and other stuff i guess"

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28222841/sorry-the-witcher-but-i-think-dragon-age-iis-plot-one-upped-you...spoiler

Which is it bud? Dumbed down or not dumbed down?

kozzy1234

It's just looks like a console game more than a PC game, with the new combat, UI, fixed camera, ect... In other words it's consolised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y

10 minute gameplay video, with combat.

Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera, it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game , instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack, fixed camera, and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Works like a console action RPG ala Fable III or Demon Souls.

The Witcher 2 looks better in almost every way than the Witcher , I'm not saying it doesn't, but how do PC gamers feel about the sudden change in direction.

Discuss.

GeneralShowzer

Looks good enough to me.

Isometiric view isn't really that useful, unlike Dragon Age you are only controlling one character no need for strategizing (which I find is the main purpose for isometric view) its mindless left clicking(when your used to the pattern anyway). Other than the swampy areas towards the end of the game (where the tall grass obstructed view) I didn't really use it. 3rd person view made the game more immersive.

Is a mouse interface even necessary? If I can pres "I" for inventory and "C" for charater screen I don't need it to be shown on the UI, who knows maybe there's a toggle UI option for that.

Dodge and attack? Lets see Gothic did that, Risen did that and Two Worlds 2 (haven't played the first) did that. Those games turned out fine.

All imo of course whats good for the goose isn't good for the gander. So to his own I guess.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Change your mind alot dude...

"The Witcher 2 is not dumbed down.

It has items you can equip now, instead of just three armors in the entire game

They also added stealth mechanics , companions, and other stuff i guess"

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28222841/sorry-the-witcher-but-i-think-dragon-age-iis-plot-one-upped-you...spoiler

Which is it bud? Dumbed down or not dumbed down?

GeneralShowzer

It's just looks like a console game more than a PC game, with the new combat, UI, fixed camera, ect... In other words it's consolised.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Change your mind alot dude...

"The Witcher 2 is not dumbed down.

It has items you can equip now, instead of just three armors in the entire game

They also added stealth mechanics , companions, and other stuff i guess"

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28222841/sorry-the-witcher-but-i-think-dragon-age-iis-plot-one-upped-you...spoiler

Which is it bud? Dumbed down or not dumbed down?

lawlessx

It's just looks like a console game more than a PC game, with the new combat, UI, fixed camera, ect... In other words it's consolised.

- Everyone who put down other RPG's and say that this is "a true PC RPG" are well, kind of wrong.

- Developers are shifting focus to console the first chance they get, it was first Crytek then CD Projekt, I hope GSG isn't next.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Again i never said that it's dumbed down. And i said that i never said that it's dumbed down, a couple of times.

It's just looks like a console game more than a PC game, with the new combat, UI, fixed camera, ect... In other words it's consolised.

GeneralShowzer

- Everyone who put down other RPG's and say that this is "a true PC RPG" are well, kind of wrong.

- Developers are shifting focus to console the first chance they get, it was first Crytek then CD Projekt, I hope GSG isn't next.

General, how many times have you made this thread? and how many times have you turned other threads into this one? Give it a rest, we heard you the first 20 timesferret-gamer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] So? why are you trying to make a big deal out of this? you really need to let it go?

i5750at4Ghz

- Everyone who put down other RPG's and say that this is "a true PC RPG" are well, kind of wrong.

- Developers are shifting focus to console the first chance they get, it was first Crytek then CD Projekt, I hope GSG isn't next.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]General, how many times have you made this thread? and how many times have you turned other threads into this one? Give it a rest, we heard you the first 20 timesGeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]General, how many times have you made this thread? and how many times have you turned other threads into this one? Give it a rest, we heard you the first 20 timeslawlessx

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]General, how many times have you made this thread? and how many times have you turned other threads into this one? Give it a rest, we heard you the first 20 timesGeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Again i never said that it's dumbed down. And i said that i never said that it's dumbed down, a couple of times.

It's just looks like a console game more than a PC game, with the new combat, UI, fixed camera, ect... In other words it's consolised.

GeneralShowzer

- Everyone who put down other RPG's and say that this is "a true PC RPG" are well, kind of wrong.

- Developers are shifting focus to console the first chance they get, it was first Crytek then CD Projekt, I hope GSG isn't next.

Nice assumption. The reason The Witcher was so good was because of the story, characters, and the choices you made along the way.

What does a UI, a radial wheel and no iso metric view have to do with any of that?

- Everyone who put down other RPG's and say that this is "a true PC RPG" are well, kind of wrong.

- Developers are shifting focus to console the first chance they get, it was first Crytek then CD Projekt, I hope GSG isn't next.

GeneralShowzer

-I'm pretty sure people simply said RPG/Game OTY. :P

-Because thats where the $$ by the end of the day people need to live and consoles (2 platforms 360 and PS3) will sell more than the PC most of the time. Crytek wasn't even the first. Bethesda did it, Bioware did it, Monolith did it, Ubisoft did it (R6, Ghost Recon, Splinter cell etc..), Epic did it, I'm guessing GPG is on its way there by the way DS3 is going. Wouldn't be the first time and it certainly won't be the last.

Chances are some unknown indie dev will take the place of CD Projekt (IF shift focus into consoles) make a great franchise on the pc then move in to consoles then the cycle repeats itself.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]General, how many times have you made this thread? and how many times have you turned other threads into this one? Give it a rest, we heard you the first 20 timesferret-gamer

No you're wrong, it was only one topic a long time ago.

And one before that :P

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] So? why are you trying to make a big deal out of this? you really need to let it go?

DragonfireXZ95

- Everyone who put down other RPG's and say that this is "a true PC RPG" are well, kind of wrong.

- Developers are shifting focus to console the first chance they get, it was first Crytek then CD Projekt, I hope GSG isn't next.

Nice assumption. The reason The Witcher was so good was because of the story, characters, and the choices you made along the way.

What does a UI, a radial wheel and no iso metric view have to do with any of that?

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] I already said, two points.

- Everyone who put down other RPG's and say that this is "a true PC RPG" are well, kind of wrong.

- Developers are shifting focus to console the first chance they get, it was first Crytek then CD Projekt, I hope GSG isn't next.

GeneralShowzer

Nice assumption. The reason The Witcher was so good was because of the story, characters, and the choices you made along the way.

What does a UI, a radial wheel and no iso metric view have to do with any of that?

So? you say it's a console game only because you found out afew months ago that the engine they used is a muitplatform engine and that the UI can also work on consoles. You've been taking the " Witcher 2 is designed for consoles" completely out of context and MANY posters have told you this..yet you contuine to complain about a game you are going to end up buying.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] So? why are you trying to make a big deal out of this? you really need to let it go?

i5750at4Ghz

- Everyone who put down other RPG's and say that this is "a true PC RPG" are well, kind of wrong.

- Developers are shifting focus to console the first chance they get, it was first Crytek then CD Projekt, I hope GSG isn't next.

The next logical step would be to then dumb down the combat and make the game easier, as the case would probably be if the STALKER series was ported to consoles. The unfortunate truth is appealing to a bigger market often means dumbing down your product. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with hardware limitations, or any consoles fan who's a member of a gaming forum, but I don't think if STALKER was released on consoles in its current form it would beliked very much by the average console fan.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] No you're wrong, it was only one topic a long time ago.GeneralShowzer

How you have started to sound like after all thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duRO3noyAKU

Combat looks a lot better than the original. more dynamic, more fun and more natural. I never used the isometric in the first game - why do you need to with 1 character? All the stats remain it just looks much more energetic. nutcrackr

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Change your mind alot dude...

"The Witcher 2 is not dumbed down.

It has items you can equip now, instead of just three armors in the entire game

They also added stealth mechanics , companions, and other stuff i guess"

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28222841/sorry-the-witcher-but-i-think-dragon-age-iis-plot-one-upped-you...spoiler

Which is it bud? Dumbed down or not dumbed down?

GeneralShowzer

It's just looks like a console game more than a PC game, with the new combat, UI, fixed camera, ect... In other words it's consolised.

It looks just like The Witcher 1 with a controller friendly interface (believe it or not, but some people like to play PC games using a controller, connected to their HD TV), and better combat. :?

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] I already said, two points.

- Everyone who put down other RPG's and say that this is "a true PC RPG" are well, kind of wrong.

- Developers are shifting focus to console the first chance they get, it was first Crytek then CD Projekt, I hope GSG isn't next.

PernicioEnigma

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] Even if it was thread you STILL repeat the same argument every chance you get.ferret-gamer

How you have started to sound like after all thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duRO3noyAKU

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]no free isometric camera,Guppy507

it doesn't have the mouse interface while in gameGeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] I already said, two points.

- Everyone who put down other RPG's and say that this is "a true PC RPG" are well, kind of wrong.

- Developers are shifting focus to console the first chance they get, it was first Crytek then CD Projekt, I hope GSG isn't next.

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Why not shift focus to consoles? It's the biggest market.GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Why not shift focus to consoles? It's the biggest market.GeneralShowzer

For the massive PC RPG it's supposed to be I would have thought you'd have NPCs moving about town. They all seem to be either sitting or standing still somewhere. The combat looks mediocre & the enemy AI seems a bit poor.

But Oh. Em. Gee. This game has some of the nicest looking areas in any game I've seen. I think you'd need some super computer to run it smoothly at its highest settings.

You might be able to change a lot of those things in the game though, pretty much like the first Witcher if I remember correctly(though it's been a while I guess, since I last played it).

I know you're not badmouthing it, but this consolization argument is really getting old. It's starting to become as obnoxious as console gamers stating that the PC industry is dying, perhaps, or in this case it's definitely not as ludicrous, but still very annoying.

I also think the game looks great, so not a problem for me. So far, I haven't seen anything to be extremely concerned about.

Also, that poney-tail is very visually distracting. It's a no breaker by any means, but it definitely deviated my attention at some point or another. The pony-tail doesn't have to move that much when Geralt is walking.

Excellent. The combat in the Witcher 1 was definitely the weakest point for me. It just felt so... bleh. And the whole "Wielding sword above head leaving every important part of the body open" fighting stance was lolworthy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y

10 minute gameplay video, with combat.

Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera, it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game , instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack, fixed camera, and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Works like a console action RPG ala Fable III or Demon Souls.

The Witcher 2 looks better in almost every way than the Witcher , I'm not saying it doesn't, but how do PC gamers feel about the sudden change in direction.

Discuss.

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y

10 minute gameplay video, with combat.

Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera, it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game , instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack, fixed camera, and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Works like a console action RPG ala Fable III or Demon Souls.

The Witcher 2 looks better in almost every way than the Witcher , I'm not saying it doesn't, but how do PC gamers feel about the sudden change in direction.

Discuss.

devious742

See what happens general when you follow other people's hype for a game without actually researching the game yourself? The developers stated/shown at GDC of early LAST YEAR what they're plans were for the Witcher 2.They stated it was a muitplatform engine at GDC..they showed us a early look at the combat system at GDC..Hell they even had a early build of the UI you hate so much.

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y

10 minute gameplay video, with combat.

Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera, it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game , instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack, fixed camera, and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Works like a console action RPG ala Fable III or Demon Souls.

The Witcher 2 looks better in almost every way than the Witcher , I'm not saying it doesn't, but how do PC gamers feel about the sudden change in direction.

Discuss.

lawlessx

See what happens general when you follow other people's hype for a game without actually researching the game yourself? The developers stated/shown at GDC of early LAST YEAR what they're plans were for the Witcher 2.They stated it was a muitplatform engine at GDC..they showed us a early look at the combat system at GDC..Hell they even had a early build of the UI you hate so much.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="devious742"] They are simply trying something new.. we need more action-RPGs like Demon souls on PC..

GeneralShowzer

See what happens general when you follow other people's hype for a game without actually researching the game yourself? The developers stated/shown at GDC of early LAST YEAR what they're plans were for the Witcher 2.They stated it was a muitplatform engine at GDC..they showed us a early look at the combat system at GDC..Hell they even had a early build of the UI you hate so much.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] Notice he calls it a "sudden change"..as if they just recently showed us the direction they were going with the game.

See what happens general when you follow other people's hype for a game without actually researching the game yourself? The developers stated/shown at GDC of early LAST YEAR what they're plans were for the Witcher 2.They stated it was a muitplatform engine at GDC..they showed us a early look at the combat system at GDC..Hell they even had a early build of the UI you hate so much.

devious742

someone lock this stupid thread please!!!!

someone lock this stupid thread please!!!!

malebog123

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] There was obviously a sudden change in direction, that's my guess. First thing they ever showed was the pre-alpha footage remember? That looked so good. At one point they decided to scrap all that and make more of a console action RPG.

GeneralShowzer

Seriously why do you care so much? Do you want all pc gamers to band up and trash every single new game that is released because it is multiplait on consoles, has good combat or circle menus? What do you want, for all of pc gamers to play the old "****cs" for the next 5 years........ Give me a break to many pc gamers here live in the past games are changing, they always have, I have seen alot of pc gamers I used to argue with about this very thing, seem to accept this and are now just enjoying the games,but you just cant let it go can you?

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="devious742"] not a console action rpg... its simply a action rpg.. Risen is a action rpg

Advid-Gamer

Seriously why do you care so much? Do you want all pc gamers to band up and trash every single new game that is released because it is multiplait on consoles, has good combat or circle menus? What do you want, for all of pc gamers to play the old "****cs" for the next 5 years........ Give me a break to many pc gamers here live in the past games are changing, they always have, I have seen alot of pc gamers I used to argue with about this very thing, seem to accept this and are now just enjoying the games,but you just cant let it go can you?

The UI doesnt look consolized at all. Its made for a console because its a wheel? Consoles created the wheel ui now? Amazing.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] It's suspect when the game is using a controller UI and they decide to make the changes when they go multi-platform. Very suspect. It was probably a decision based on the game going multi-platform, common.GeneralShowzer

Seriously why do you care so much? Do you want all pc gamers to band up and trash every single new game that is released because it is multiplait on consoles, has good combat or circle menus? What do you want, for all of pc gamers to play the old "****cs" for the next 5 years........ Give me a break to many pc gamers here live in the past games are changing, they always have, I have seen alot of pc gamers I used to argue with about this very thing, seem to accept this and are now just enjoying the games,but you just cant let it go can you?

So you do it just to get a rise out of people... I can respect that I do it all the time, but only to posters that postings annoy me.

[QUOTE="malebog123"]

someone lock this stupid thread please!!!!

GeneralShowzer

dont take this the wrong way showzer, but this is getting out of hand. Have no quarrel with you, but you gotta admit, this is getting stupid. Though I do applaud your self control, after all the flaming, you still come across as polite. I admire that. Anyway, just put an end to this.